Hashirama's Mokuton weaker than Madara's?

[Bogard]

I just noticed that Hashirama used the Mokuton Jyukai koutan against Hiruzen and it looked more like this:

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But Madara used the exact same jutsu but it seemed to be much more powerful:

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Problem?

 

[Dantee]

Power scaling bro and they say it don't exist.

 

[TheSages456]

idiot.

 

[Kages]

Power scaling is different from part 1 to part 2. Also the location made it harder to make a huge forest

 

[Lucidus]

power scaling's are different from part 1 and 2 ... so no hashirama's mokuton would still be on madara's level if not higher

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Hashirama couldn't use it on that scale he was in a confined space. It would be pretty stupid, hiruzen is only one man.

 

[rollin]

hashi was using it against one person not an army

 

[Joten Uchiha]

Well think about it, what does EDO Madara have that Hashi didn't? the clue is in the edo..

 

[Dantee]

O so now the Hashi fanboys say it exist when this isn't a Hiruzen thread. Sigh the hypocrisy.

 

[Kages]

O so now the Hashi fanboys say it exist when this isn't a Hiruzen thread. Sigh the hypocrisy.

Exactly xd

 

[November]

idiot.

^this xd

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

O so now the Hashi fanboys say it exist when this isn't a Hiruzen thread. Sigh the hypocrisy.

What exist

Edit: power scaling? If so that was you hiruzen fans that mentioned it and one hiruzen fan even said exactly when it was him.

 

[Sabuto Hayashi]

So you're saying a portion of Hashirama implanted into someone else is stronger than the actual Hashirama?

Ehh, I don't think so. It's obvious that anyone with Hashi's DNA will never be as adept with Mokuton than Hashirama himself. Madara is possibly the closest example of how powerful Hashi really was.

 

[xXBlazinNinXx]

Well if you read the magna Kabuto states that Madara is way beyond then he was in his prime...

 

[Bogard]

Power scaling bro and they say it don't exist.

It also shows how Naruto became shit since shippuden started

idiot.

stfu Hashi fanboy

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

Four Corners Sealing Barrier....that was Hashirama's problem. He couldn't use his full power because of a limited space...would've probably messed up Orochimaru and Hiruzen...also note he most likely didn't have his full arsenal seeing how Tobirama, the Jutsu's creator, most likely should have known how to break out of it.

 

[Tragic Nous]

Evidently Kishimoto bolstered Hashirama Senju's strength, for the power-scaling of Part I and Part II have a huge marginal difference between them.

You could say that the author simply heighten Hashirama's strength as Part II expanded.

In any case, Hashirama's Mokuton is stronger than Madara's.

 

[phantomlord22]

Madara > hashirama in using muktun ? that's stupid man !

 

[NLee]

This is stupid. Just because of these two pages you think it's enough to say that Madara's Mokuton is/was stronger?

The only reason Madara's technique was bigger than Hashirama's is because the Hokage showdown happened in part 1 of the series. Hashirama wasn't as hyped yet. Why the hell would Kishi have made Hashirama do such a large-scale technique against Hiruzen? It was part 1 of the god damn series. It would have made no sense. Techniques of such magnitude didn't start appearing until part 2.

Use your brain before making such stupid statements.

 

[Bogard]

Evidently Kishimoto bolstered Hashirama Senju's strength, for the power-scaling of Part I and Part II have a huge marginal difference between them.

You could say that the author simply heighten Hashirama's strength as Part II expanded.

In any case, Hashirama's Mokuton is stronger than Madara's.

Logic?