Tobi123
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This is my first theory ever made on Narutobase,hope you enjoy it,it's a bit too long...I think that his death may have something to do with the destruction of the Whirlpool village. We know that Hashirama was married to Mito Uzumaki, since the Uzumaki seem to have been the founders of the Whirlpool village, I suspect that Hashirama would have attempted to prevent its destruction. We don't know when Hashirama died but we know that Mito was still alive when Kushina was a child and the Kyuubi was passed from her to Kushina. Kushina said that the Whirlpool nation was destroyed because people feared their power and so they were inevitably destroyed. To me this sounds a lot like what happened to the Uchiha. This parallel would explain a lot of things in the story. Itachi wiped out his clan because he believed it was the only way to avoid a world war. Now he might have come to this conclusion by simply judging the situation for what it was but what if there was a precedent? We know that Itachi was very interested in the past and by studying things that other people had ignored he obtained a deep understanding that was comparable to that of a Kage. I think that Itachi had studied the Whirlpool nation and knew what had happened to it. I think that because of what he learned from that event he knew what would happen if the Uchiha went to war with Konoha.
Whatever, destroyed the Whirlpool village had to be incredibly powerful, since their clan was very strong, for them to have been wiped out entirely must have taken a lot. At that time Hashirama, Tobirama, and Madara were probably the 3 most powerful ninja in the world. So I would not be surprised if they were somehow involved. We know that Madara was still manipulating events behind the scenes after his apparent death. We know that he was very involved with the Hidden Mist village and the Land of Whirlpools was between the land of Fire and the Land of Water. Madara was off the grid for more than half his life and I suspect he did a lot more in that time than we have been told so far. We know that the Hidden Eddy Village was destroyed because people feared their sealing techniques but who specifically destroyed it and for what reasons remains unknown. I believe that the Village was destroyed for much the same reason the the Uchiha were destroyed, they had powers that were seen as a threat and their unique power made people suspicious of them. So far the people who seem to be best suited to controlling the Bijuu are the Uchiha, the Uzumaki and the Senju. The Senju seem to have spread midst other clans so they did not seem to be as much of a threat but the Uchiha and Uzumaki seem to have remained separated from the other clans. The Uzumaki in particular were probably even more feared than the Uchiha because they lived on an island in their own village. Madara may have also used his Sharingan to spread fear about the Whirlpool village and increased animosity towards them just like Obito helped to prompt the Uchiha massacre (after all Madara was his teacher). Eventually the council probably decided to go to war with the Uzumaki but Hashirama was probably against it, just like the 3rd was against the Uchiha Massacre. Hashirama probably attempted to broker peace but I think Madara manipulated the Uzumaki clan into a conflict with Hashirama, much the way Obito manipulated the conflict between the Uchiha and Konoha. Hashirama mentioned that Itachi was a better ninja than him, I think that Hashirama might have been put in a similar position to Itachi. I think Hashirama was forced to play both sides but unlike Itachi he couldn't pull the trigger. I think eventually the situation got so bad that a fight broke out ant the Uzumaki killed Hashirama who tried to stand in their way perhaps dieing because he refused to kill them (after all Itachi chose to kill his clan and lived) that choice ended the conflict. If Hashirama died in a similar situation it would make sense why he said that Itachi was a better ninja.
Hashirama was clearly incredibly powerful but so was Tobirama (flying thunder god, sensor, most powerful water user, and creator of Edo Tensei). We know that Tobirama was killed by 20 elite ninja so a similar force might have been able to take down Hashirama. Yet I suspect that it was actually members of the Uzumaki clan themselves who killed Hashirama, perhaps at Madara's prompting. They are the only people during that time who I can think of who would have had the power to kill Hashirama. I think after they killed Hashirama, Tobirama took charge and took a powerful group of ninja and destroyed the Whirlpool village. This may have even been the precursor to Root. We know that Tobirama was a practicle man, he made hard choices that Hashirama would not make, I think Danzo was more of a follower of Tobirama and took his views even further.
With the Whirlpool village gone and Hashirama dead, Madara had disposed of two of his biggest obstacles. He continued to stir up war hoping that it would eventually end up causing Tobirama's death as well. We know that Madara was still alive when Tobirama died so I wouldn't be surprised if he somehow set up the situation that led to Tobirama's death. I suspect that it was around this time that Madara finally awakened the Rinnegan. With its power he summoned the Heretical Demon Statue. By this point though Madara was too weak to complete his plan to resurrect the Juubi so he sought out pawns who could carry on in his absence. He gave the Rinnegan to Nagato who was an Uzumaki with the potential to master its power. Around that same time he also looked for a Uchiha who could be his double and continue his work. He chose children who were vulnerable and damaged so he could manipulate their feelings. The Whirlpool nation was gone and so was the threat of their powerful sealing techniques but his own clan, the Uchiha still had power that could threaten him if it evolved far enough. I think Obito realized this, I think that is why Obito was so obsessed with Sasuke. Obito said mulitple times that the Sharingan is needed to defeat the Sharingan. Obito knew that he could not match Madara because he didn't have the ability to awaken the Eternal Mangekyou, so he looked for someone who could obtain that power. When Obito was confronted by Itachi and learned about Sasuke he found his answer. Obito said again and again that Sasuke was his most important objective. I think Obito sees Sasuke as the only one capable of surpassing Madara now.
Whatever, destroyed the Whirlpool village had to be incredibly powerful, since their clan was very strong, for them to have been wiped out entirely must have taken a lot. At that time Hashirama, Tobirama, and Madara were probably the 3 most powerful ninja in the world. So I would not be surprised if they were somehow involved. We know that Madara was still manipulating events behind the scenes after his apparent death. We know that he was very involved with the Hidden Mist village and the Land of Whirlpools was between the land of Fire and the Land of Water. Madara was off the grid for more than half his life and I suspect he did a lot more in that time than we have been told so far. We know that the Hidden Eddy Village was destroyed because people feared their sealing techniques but who specifically destroyed it and for what reasons remains unknown. I believe that the Village was destroyed for much the same reason the the Uchiha were destroyed, they had powers that were seen as a threat and their unique power made people suspicious of them. So far the people who seem to be best suited to controlling the Bijuu are the Uchiha, the Uzumaki and the Senju. The Senju seem to have spread midst other clans so they did not seem to be as much of a threat but the Uchiha and Uzumaki seem to have remained separated from the other clans. The Uzumaki in particular were probably even more feared than the Uchiha because they lived on an island in their own village. Madara may have also used his Sharingan to spread fear about the Whirlpool village and increased animosity towards them just like Obito helped to prompt the Uchiha massacre (after all Madara was his teacher). Eventually the council probably decided to go to war with the Uzumaki but Hashirama was probably against it, just like the 3rd was against the Uchiha Massacre. Hashirama probably attempted to broker peace but I think Madara manipulated the Uzumaki clan into a conflict with Hashirama, much the way Obito manipulated the conflict between the Uchiha and Konoha. Hashirama mentioned that Itachi was a better ninja than him, I think that Hashirama might have been put in a similar position to Itachi. I think Hashirama was forced to play both sides but unlike Itachi he couldn't pull the trigger. I think eventually the situation got so bad that a fight broke out ant the Uzumaki killed Hashirama who tried to stand in their way perhaps dieing because he refused to kill them (after all Itachi chose to kill his clan and lived) that choice ended the conflict. If Hashirama died in a similar situation it would make sense why he said that Itachi was a better ninja.
Hashirama was clearly incredibly powerful but so was Tobirama (flying thunder god, sensor, most powerful water user, and creator of Edo Tensei). We know that Tobirama was killed by 20 elite ninja so a similar force might have been able to take down Hashirama. Yet I suspect that it was actually members of the Uzumaki clan themselves who killed Hashirama, perhaps at Madara's prompting. They are the only people during that time who I can think of who would have had the power to kill Hashirama. I think after they killed Hashirama, Tobirama took charge and took a powerful group of ninja and destroyed the Whirlpool village. This may have even been the precursor to Root. We know that Tobirama was a practicle man, he made hard choices that Hashirama would not make, I think Danzo was more of a follower of Tobirama and took his views even further.
With the Whirlpool village gone and Hashirama dead, Madara had disposed of two of his biggest obstacles. He continued to stir up war hoping that it would eventually end up causing Tobirama's death as well. We know that Madara was still alive when Tobirama died so I wouldn't be surprised if he somehow set up the situation that led to Tobirama's death. I suspect that it was around this time that Madara finally awakened the Rinnegan. With its power he summoned the Heretical Demon Statue. By this point though Madara was too weak to complete his plan to resurrect the Juubi so he sought out pawns who could carry on in his absence. He gave the Rinnegan to Nagato who was an Uzumaki with the potential to master its power. Around that same time he also looked for a Uchiha who could be his double and continue his work. He chose children who were vulnerable and damaged so he could manipulate their feelings. The Whirlpool nation was gone and so was the threat of their powerful sealing techniques but his own clan, the Uchiha still had power that could threaten him if it evolved far enough. I think Obito realized this, I think that is why Obito was so obsessed with Sasuke. Obito said mulitple times that the Sharingan is needed to defeat the Sharingan. Obito knew that he could not match Madara because he didn't have the ability to awaken the Eternal Mangekyou, so he looked for someone who could obtain that power. When Obito was confronted by Itachi and learned about Sasuke he found his answer. Obito said again and again that Sasuke was his most important objective. I think Obito sees Sasuke as the only one capable of surpassing Madara now.
