[Spoilers] Hashirama

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Why is that both ashura and naruto lacked the skills at first being inferior to Indra and sasuke
But hashirama was just amazingly strong from the the start? Lmao
That honestly makes no sense if you ask me
 

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Veritas made a theory on that.
 

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it is not the reference for hashirama having ashura's spirit.
it was decided by co-operating with others, caring for everyone and believing that love was the deciding principle for a shinobi
 
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Same reason why Sasuke does not have the likeness of Indra. Indra gained power on his own and was instantly gifted. Sasuke may have been gifted, but always needed help and even naruto was >=Sasuke at one point early on. Transmigration pick a host based on their roots/ideaology. Not based on strength/weakness.
 

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Because they are different people.Riencarnation deosn't mean that you're 100 percent like someone else.
 

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hashi was born during the era of the warring states, he couldn't have survived if he wasn't at his best
 

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Why is that both ashura and naruto lacked the skills at first being inferior to Indra and sasuke
But hashirama was just amazingly strong from the the start? Lmao
That honestly makes no sense if you ask me

Did Naruto even care about being strong before he met Sasuke? What has Sasuke been doing all his childhood?

See, comparing people is not that simple. You cannot compare the strength and mental of an healthy boy who is being tutored by brothers and parents with that of an orphan who does not even know what it means to be a human in society. Thus, you cannot compare Naruto and Sasuke before Naruto even start to really want to be a shinobi.

Madara was weaker than Hashirama because an uchiha without Sharingan is nothing, and because Ashura is stronger than Indra.

See, with Hashirama and Madara, we can do a comparison because both were raised by parents in the midst of an era of war. Hashirama's father was thinking exactly like Madara's father. Thus, in their time, children were already well trained shinobi to exploit all their potential. This explain why Hashirama could be stronger than a one tomoe Sharingan Madara.

I can guarantee that if Naruto were raised as shinobi by his parents in the same way Sasuke was raised as shinobi by his parent, Sasuke would last a single minute in a battle against Naruto when they were in academy. Just consider Naruto taking advantage of his uzumaki chakra pool, his father's intellignece and his mother's strength.

What I am saying is that Hashirama is not a special case. Rather, Naruto is a special case of a gifted child being outcast by the society, and lost because he has no parent. The answer to your question is that hashirama had parents who trained him to be a shinobi, and as Ashura's reincarnation, he was simply stronger than Madara.
 

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Madara was still >Hashirama at VoTE. Mangaphaxx. Come at me ,haters
 

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Naruto was strong from the start too, Kuruma messed him up
 

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Did Naruto even care about being strong before he met Sasuke? What has Sasuke been doing all his childhood?

See, comparing people is not that simple. You cannot compare the strength and mental of an healthy boy who is being tutored by brothers and parents with that of an orphan who does not even know what it means to be a human in society. Thus, you cannot compare Naruto and Sasuke before Naruto even start to really want to be a shinobi.

Madara was weaker than Hashirama because an uchiha without Sharingan is nothing, and because Ashura is stronger than Indra.

See, with Hashirama and Madara, we can do a comparison because both were raised by parents in the midst of an era of war. Hashirama's father was thinking exactly like Madara's father. Thus, in their time, children were already well trained shinobi to exploit all their potential. This explain why Hashirama could be stronger than a one tomoe Sharingan Madara.

I can guarantee that if Naruto were raised as shinobi by his parents in the same way Sasuke was raised as shinobi by his parent, Sasuke would last a single minute in a battle against Naruto when they were in academy. Just consider Naruto taking advantage of his uzumaki chakra pool, his father's intellignece and his mother's strength.

What I am saying is that Hashirama is not a special case. Rather, Naruto is a special case of a gifted child being outcast by the society, and lost because he has no parent. The answer to your question is that hashirama had parents who trained him to be a shinobi, and as Ashura's reincarnation, he was simply stronger than Madara.
Lol an uchiha is nothing without his sharingan? That's not true at all madara is all but nothing before he even awakened his sharingan he was stronger then most senju adults he surpassed his own father without the sharingan. Stop trying to break the shit down to sound right lol
 

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Experience and learning seems to be Ashura's greatest gift. Hashirama was born during a war, and thus accumulated experience rather quickly. Not to mention Hashirama was gifted with the wood style.

Maybe it's a slight theme Kishi has made. Ashura has to find a way to pacify Indra to secure peace, he cannot fight him. Thus, being the strongest is not important to Ashura, he just has to be equal to Indra (which is what pt 1 Naruto emphasized at VotE). Hashirama didn't create peace via defeating Madara, signifying that Naruto's goal cannot be to defeat Sasuke. This is why I think Kishi made Hashi stronger from a writing aspect.
 
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