Hashirama vs Team Senjutsu

[Unorthodox]

Hashirama stomps these Weaklings

 

[Kushina san]

Yes, those four have a chance against this

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Fools Madara EMS and Kyuubi 100% who have lost U_U

 

[Gold Lightning]

Yes, those four have a chance against this

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Fools Madara EMS and Kyuubi 100% who have lost U_U

Fool, learn how to read, that's restricted. And even if it wasn't, it only takes one of them to teleport it away

 

[Rιver]

Both version of Hashirama take this.

 

[Draegod]

There strategy would be simple. Protect the Sage toads for about a few minutes with FTG and other means. While Hasirmama toys with them (he wouldn't feel the need to go SM, he didnt even wanna go sage mode against Madara with the Kyuibi around. And none of them is that level of threat.)

Logically speaking based on character he loses. They counter all mokuton and survive the storm for Frog song to end it instantly.

But if this isn't in character then Hashi Shits off bat!

 

[NarutoX28]

Fool, learn how to read, that's restricted. And even if it wasn't, it only takes one of them to teleport it away

It took Minato a while to knead chakra in order to warp 100% Kurama. Hashirama's Buddha is multiple times larger than 100% Kurama, so a structure like Buddha is going to consume a large amount of chakra and require an immense amount of time just to warp it.

 

[Kushina san]

Fool, learn how to read, that's restricted. And even if it wasn't, it only takes one of them to teleport it away

Very funny.

 

[Gold Lightning]

It took Minato a while to knead chakra in order to warp 100% Kurama. Hashirama's Buddha is multiple times larger than 100% Kurama, so a structure like Buddha is going to consume a large amount of chakra and require an immense amount of time just to warp it.

Nah, it took a while to build up the chakra to use plain ol FTG to teleport Kurama. However an FTG barrier swallows objects up in an instant (kuramas tbb and juu is tbb), without the need to build up chakra no matter the size. Juubi bomb didn't phase minatos chakra one bit in base the guy was smiling.

Can't get near the Buddha to make contact anyway, so space time barrier is the only option.

 

[NarutoX28]

Nah, it took a while to build up the chakra to use plain ol FTG to teleport Kurama. However an FTG barrier swallows objects up in an instant (kuramas tbb and juu is tbb), without the need to build up chakra no matter the size. Juubi bomb didn't phase minatos chakra one bit in base the guy was smiling.

Both his normal FTG and his S/T Barrier function on the same principles. Minato uses a Hiraishin formula to create an S/T Barrier and upon contact, that object is linked to Minato's own Chakra and is redirected to another Kunai with his Hiraishin formula. Using that logic, both should consume the same amount of chakra when warping objects of similar size.

I will give you that point considering Minato was constantly kneading Chakra to sense Naruto implying that he couldn't knead Chakra to redirect the blast at the same time. However, Minato also applied the same seal on himself which means that he naturally releases Kurama's Chakra as well whenever he builds up Chakra which greatly enhances his Stamina as displayed with Part 1 Naruto. Alive Minato does not have that advantage.

While I'm on the subject, Minato's Chakra was depleted after warping Kurama and Minato doesn't display any fatigue while warping himself using Hiraishin which makes the implication that warping 100% Kurama just severely depletes his chakra. And while Minato does have Sage Mode, he himself admitted that he can't maintain it for very long to be usable in combat which implies that he simply can't draw in that much Natural Energy as it has to be proportionate to his Physical and Spiritual Energies which makes the implication that he will deplete his Senjutsu Chakra rather quickly if he warps something on the size of Hashirama's Buddha.

And I'm not going to debate about that Juubidama's size relative to Hashirama's Buddha because that seems rather debatable and very subjective.

Can't get near the Buddha to make contact anyway, so space time barrier is the only option.

And that functions on the same principles as his Hiraishin which means it will not be done for reasons already stated.

Edit: Wait, you said Buddha was restricted, but I see no such thing.

 

[Demonic.]

Fool, learn how to read, that's restricted. And even if it wasn't, it only takes one of them to teleport it away

Alive Minato teleporting Shinsuusenju?

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[Rιver]

Base Hashirama has shown Kurama size Mokuton, which he can actually spam. Just one warp of Kurama sized object made him pant, how is Minato warping 10 here?

 

[Gold Lightning]

Both his normal FTG and his S/T Barrier function on the same principles. Minato uses a Hiraishin formula to create an S/T Barrier and upon contact, that object is linked to Minato's own Chakra and is redirected to another Kunai with his Hiraishin formula. Using that logic, both should consume the same amount of chakra when warping objects of similar size.

I will give you that point considering Minato was constantly kneading Chakra to sense Naruto implying that he couldn't knead Chakra to redirect the blast at the same time. However, Minato also applied the same seal on himself which means that he naturally releases Kurama's Chakra as well whenever he builds up Chakra which greatly enhances his Stamina as displayed with Part 1 Naruto. Alive Minato does not have that advantage.

While I'm on the subject, Minato's Chakra was depleted after warping Kurama and Minato doesn't display any fatigue while warping himself using Hiraishin which makes the implication that warping 100% Kurama just severely depletes his chakra. And while Minato does have Sage Mode, he himself admitted that he can't maintain it for very long to be usable in combat which implies that he simply can't draw in that much Natural Energy as it has to be proportionate to his Physical and Spiritual Energies which makes the implication that he will deplete his Senjutsu Chakra rather quickly if he warps something on the size of Hashirama's Buddha.

And I'm not going to debate about that Juubidama's size relative to Hashirama's Buddha because that seems rather debatable and very subjective.



And that functions on the same principles as his Hiraishin which means it will not be done for reasons already stated.

Edit: Wait, you said Buddha was restricted, but I see no such thing.

They do not work the same. The amount of chakra used for ftg is directly proportionate to the size of the object. So the user has to build of chakra directly proportionate to the size of the object they want to teleport. While the chakra for the space time barrier depends of the size of the barrier. In any case, the barrier uses no where near the same amount of chakra as warping with regular ftg. The only thing that is the same about them is that they both redirect objects to another marking (or something connected to the users chakra)

Minato warped Kuramas tbb and was unfazed chakra wise. Even after summoning bunta he was unfazed. It was only teleporting Kurama that required more chakra because he had to build up the chakra. Notice when he warped the tbb, he didnt need to build up the chakra for it, that shows the technique doesnt use the same chakra as teleportation.

No minato isnt constantly using kuramas chakra. He did not use the same seal as Naruto. Naruto has an 8 tetregram seal which minato specially constructed to have the nine tails chakra blend with narutos chakra, Minato has a reaper death seal. Naruto also only sensed his Dads chakra and could not sense Yin Kurama inside Minato, nor could Yang Kurama sense Yin kurama inside minato until Minato called activated chakra mode. Kurama has no influence on edo base minato. Yin Kurama is just a separate entity within edo minato, that has no influence on minato until he actually uses the chakra.

Yes of course minato isnt exhausted while teleporting himself. Like i said, chakra used for teleportation is directly proportionate to the size of the object. Which means minato only needs to build up the same amount of chakra in correlation to the size of his body. Yes i know 100% kurama drained him, already explained this and the difference between teleporting and warping.

Ok notice this... Base Minato WARPS Juubidama and he is perfectly fine, no exhaustion is shown or fatigue. But when he TELEPORTS ninja alliance outside of Obitos barrier, he shows exhaustion. See the difference now? Minato was in nine tails chakra mode and was using Kuramas chakra and yet he was panting after doing at (with the nine tails chakra). But with the juubidama he was fine and that was without nine tails chakra. So again it shows that FTG and Space Time Barrier have have different properties.

SS and Juubi tbb are comparable in size. And Minato warped the bomb easily with no issue, unfazed and without sage chakra boost. Also your premise on senjitsu is wrong. You said he cant draw in that much natural energy, completely false. He is a true sage, meaning the amount of nature energy he draws in is equal to that of his own chakra (so you contradict yourself, because you already know this yet say he cant draw much in). If he didnt draw in enough, minato would not enter sage mode at all, and if he draws in too little, minato would look like jiraya or he'd turn to stone. Sage Mode isn't just going to go away without using ninjutsu, which is what depletes it. Using a barrier that he easily does in base may or may not use all his sage chakra, however it wont effect hos stamina at all. Even if it used up all his sm, he can just re-enter. Not to mention with fukasku and shima, not of this is an issue. Also stop adding in your own word, you said "he cant maintain it very long making it unusable in combat". No thats stupid, attacking madara = using it in combat. Minato saying "i havent used it much in combat" means he's used it in the past. And as I've already stated, sage toads+ amphibian technique = no worries.

Edit:
Warping (Space Time Barrier)
Teleporting (FTG)

Buddha was restricted, the op made an edit.

 

[Gein]

Jiraiya
Senjutsu Katon is enough to suppress most wood if not all , he could focus on deforestation alone.
Goemon is particulary useful here, easily disintegrating wood and leaves.
Sound Genjutsu can neg.

Minato
Minato could easily teleport Susenju , he is honestly the strongest advantage here.
I do not see Hashirama doing much to hurt him while teleporting all over the place, let alone Hashirama getting marked himself.

Naruto
Ill assume Naruto has Kurama, so KCM can rival FTG in certain situations, so I don't see Hashirama suppressing Kurama here. Don't see why Naruto couldn't use Taijutsu alone with his speed.(If he doesn't have Kurama ignore that)
Naruto Senjutsu Rasengans could obliterate Hashirama.(As well as Jiraiya's)

Kabuto
I'm not too savvy with Kabuto so I won't say, just that he's beyond overkill.

Summons
Gamabunta, Gamahiro, Gamaken, Gamatatsu, Gamakichi, Manda II

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Now please tell me anyone, what is Hashirama doing against this?

 

[Touken]

Hashirama wins. Only person from team SM who's near Hashirama's league is SM Kabuto, and even with him they lose anyway.

 

[Itachi san88]

Hashirama the summons blocks them quietly with Senpō: Myōjinmon, as it did with the Juubi....