Hashirama vs Sanin

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Oro seems to need time to put his tags in to activate the edo's. That time will be more than sufficient for Hashi to stomp. Also Oro seemed to need to make some seals, etc, when controlling the Hokage (at least initially), though this was a bit inconsistent. If Oro needs to manually control them, even worse for him. I'll grant he can probably program them to do whatever, but not instantly based on feats.

This will be cleared up more in the coming weeks hopefully.
 

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Hashirama low difficulty. Madara>5 Kages. 5 Kages>Sannin. Hashirama>Madara :)
 

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Hashirama low difficulty. Madara>5 Kages. 5 Kages>Sannin. Hashirama>Madara :)

Perfect A>B>C logic right there. Let me point out the errors in yor statement. You know what, here is a better list.

Edo Madara> Sannin> Hashirama> Five Kage> EMS Madara.
 

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Perfect A>B>C logic right there. Let me point out the errors in yor statement. You know what, here is a better list.

Edo Madara> Sannin> Hashirama> Five Kage> EMS Madara.

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

Hashirama>Sannin and I've showed how, unless you can debunk my points.

EMS Madara has Perfect Susanoo which the Five Kage were helpless against.

The Five Kage destroy the Sannin, not even close.
 

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If we're factoring in Edo Tensei's use, then the Sannin take the victory. Without? They just get overwhelmed. They don't have anything which can physically boogie with the chakra absorbing Mokuryū (which subdued the 9 tails). Gamabunta even admitted that it would take a miracle for him to hold the Kyūbi for a reasonable amount of time, and that's even after he was summoned directly ontop of the Fox. The Sannin can't distinguish between Moku Bunshins and the real Hashirama because they lack the Sharingan's ocular powers [ ]. These clones can easily merge with the tendrils created by Shodai's forests and constantly supply him with information (and essentially, multiple viewpoints) regarding the Sannin's whereabouts and/or predicaments (via telepathy) [ ][ ]. This is gives Hashirama a great tactical advantage. In addition to that, none of them have any sort of one-shot technique which can eradicate all the unusually durable clones at once. A well placed Mokuton spike could very well spell the end for someone like Jiraiya, who lacks any sort of healing or recovery ability (particularly in base).

Hashirama's techniques are just on a different scale. The only thing which even comes close to denting it is Gamayu Endan, and even then, the 1st can always produce more and more forests by accelerating the growth of nearby plant life whenever he pleases. This is also assuming that Gamabunta hasn't already been crushed by the Wood Style. Something like Mokuton Sashiki (activated remotely) would be enough to finish him. By possessing self healing on the level of Tsunade's Byakugō, Hashirama limits the amount of Jutsu which the Sannin can use to permanently put him down. They've (the Sannin) got one counter to the Bringer-of-Darkness Genjutsu, and that's Jiraiya's barrier, which is only a short-mid ranged Jutsu. If they move to within close proximity of Jiraiya (so that whatever he can sense applies to them also), then they (as a unit) make themselves an even easier target to be crushed by Jukai Kōtan or the like. Even worse; if Hashirama was to combine the Infinite Darkness with Kajukai Kōrin, then the Sannin wouldn't be able to see pollen which would eventually cause them to fall asleep [ ].

^This

Nope Sannin> Five Kage.

:rofl: No.
 

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How is this even debatable?

It's manga fact that the Five Kage 's combined efforts are nothing compared to Hashirama (it was stated not once, but twice), and the Five Kage's combined efforts > the Three Sannin's combined efforts.

This.
 

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I mean Jiraiya and Orochimaru> A, Gaara, Onoki, and Mei. Tsunade cancels herself out xd

Orochimaru> A (he isn't affected by Taijutsu)

Orochimaru> Onoki (he can regrow back if he gets Jinton'd)

Jiraiya> Gaara and Mei for obvious reasons, do I really have to explain? xd
Orochimaru isn't regrowing a head if he gets jintoned since his whole body will disintegrate. The Sannin are outnumbered and so will fall to the five kages.
Oro seems to need time to put his tags in to activate the edo's. That time will be more than sufficient for Hashi to stomp. Also Oro seemed to need to make some seals, etc, when controlling the Hokage (at least initially), though this was a bit inconsistent. If Oro needs to manually control them, even worse for him. I'll grant he can probably program them to do whatever, but not instantly based on feats.

This will be cleared up more in the coming weeks hopefully.
Implying that Hashirama can destroy the Sannin in one second.
Perfect A>B>C logic right there. Let me point out the errors in yor statement. You know what, here is a better list.

Edo Madara> Sannin> Hashirama> Five Kage> EMS Madara.
Nope. Edo Madara>Hashirama>EMS Madara>Five kages>Sannin.
 

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Hashirama and edo Madara are somewhat equals. Edo Madara > 5 kages and i think its obvious that 5 kages > 3 sannin. Hashi wins med diff, even if the sannins have intel i think it wouldn't matter much.
 
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