Hashirama vs. Rinnegan Madara and DSM Kabuto
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cause stabbing is the only way to kill someone?
cutting of hashis head should kill him,
pateuvasiliu
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How the fu ck is sound genjutsu affecting Hashirama when he is on top of a statue 100 times bigger than the full fuc king kyuubi?
I swear to god you people are retarded.
I swear to god you people are retarded.
Bahahahhaahhahahahahah!!!!! :leaf: :leaf: You mean the scalpel designated to do internal damage?
Seeing as pain cancels genjutsu, and tayuya's genjutsu isn't tsukuyomi... how is he cutting through his head again? The minute he starts to go through the pain stakingly long feat, hashi is already broken out and healing. Last i checked, kabuto never had wind element. I don't know where people got the idea that it's so easy to dismember someone.
One last thing. Tayuya also used her genjutsu to restrain and go on for the kill. Yet she killed no one.
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As to your feat of how hashi breaks the genjutsu? Any method to break normal genjutsu. It's still a normal genjutsu after all. He can just bite his lip or something - Cause himself pain. Or most possibly force his way out of it, because apparently orochimaru can't keep him in check. Madara couldn't tsukuyomi him. But tayuya's genjutsu will restrain him...? Yea....
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I can't believe you people are trying to put this shit genjutsu on the level of frog song/Tsukuyomi. Bahahahahah
We must give them the benefit of the doubt and assume their fantasy genjutsu hits.
Now the question is. What next?
Even without the Kyūbi, Rinnegan Madara will give Hashirama the fight of his life. His endurance/stamina/chakra reserves have likely increased tenfold with the addition of Shodai's cells. He can cancel out the majority of Hashirama's Wood Style with his faux Mokuton because of the copy cat nature of his Sharingan [
Both parties are intelligent. I expect Hashirama will soon realise that:
Both Gedō Mazō and Manda II can be summoned by Madara's team; under normal circumstances, Hashirama would be able to dispatch of the two with little problems - but the situation is made complicated when Mokuryū, Hotei and the like can be mirrored with relative ease by Madara. The Gakidō/Mokuton debate will never end, although it seems to me that, at the very least, the chakra in Hashirama's Wood Release can be absorbed from what is, at the end of the day, Ninjutsu (the combination of both Suiton and Doton, with an injection of Yang Chakra which provides the 'life creating' aspect [
Ultimately, Shodai will enter Sennin Mode if he feels he's on the back foot. Once Shin Sūsenju is out, it probably spells the end for Kabuto as he's likely to be killed in the cross-fire. Without the Kyūbi, Madara probably doesn't have the firepower needed to take the statue down. I'm just wondering how useful the abilities of the Tendō realm will be for him. If he really did pull down those meteors with some sort of enhanced version of Banshō Ten'in, who knows what he could do to Hashirama's construct. Toppling it doesn't seem out of the question considering Madara isn't suffering from the handicaps which limited Nagato (A transplanted pair of eyes, lack of Hashirama's cells etc). Could go either way I guess - depends on how quickly Susano'o is removed and how readily Madara will start employing the powers of the Rinnegan.
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]. An IC Hashirama isn't bringing out Shin Sūsenju right off the bat, just as Madara isn't immediately resorting to Perfect Susano'o. While Madara and Kabuto know practically everything regarding Hashirama's abilties (through experience and scientific research respectively), the latter's knowledge on his opponents' upgrades is extremely limited.Both parties are intelligent. I expect Hashirama will soon realise that:
- His basic Mokuton will be useless against Madara, since the latter can predict/replicate his attacks.
- Physical attacks will be useless against the Hydrification Technique Kabuto acquired from the Hōzuki clan.
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]. Of course, it has only been shown to work on the far weaker Yamato, although it stands to reason that even someone as powerful Hashirama could have his Wood Style somewhat suppressed - even if it means his Mokuton is only weakened by x amount. Envenoming the correct Shodai will prove an easier task if Kabuto has Madara locate the original with his ocular powers. Both Gedō Mazō and Manda II can be summoned by Madara's team; under normal circumstances, Hashirama would be able to dispatch of the two with little problems - but the situation is made complicated when Mokuryū, Hotei and the like can be mirrored with relative ease by Madara. The Gakidō/Mokuton debate will never end, although it seems to me that, at the very least, the chakra in Hashirama's Wood Release can be absorbed from what is, at the end of the day, Ninjutsu (the combination of both Suiton and Doton, with an injection of Yang Chakra which provides the 'life creating' aspect [
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]).Ultimately, Shodai will enter Sennin Mode if he feels he's on the back foot. Once Shin Sūsenju is out, it probably spells the end for Kabuto as he's likely to be killed in the cross-fire. Without the Kyūbi, Madara probably doesn't have the firepower needed to take the statue down. I'm just wondering how useful the abilities of the Tendō realm will be for him. If he really did pull down those meteors with some sort of enhanced version of Banshō Ten'in, who knows what he could do to Hashirama's construct. Toppling it doesn't seem out of the question considering Madara isn't suffering from the handicaps which limited Nagato (A transplanted pair of eyes, lack of Hashirama's cells etc). Could go either way I guess - depends on how quickly Susano'o is removed and how readily Madara will start employing the powers of the Rinnegan.
no,the one he dissected itachi with:leaf:
hashi cant move his body at all,how is he inflicting pain again?
Oh,biting his lip?,i wonder why itachi,the best genjutsu user and a sharingan wielder than sees through genjutsu,and sasuke,an ems user,cudnt do that? If it was a normal genjutsu,2 ms/ems users would have broken out easily:.leaf:,he used it in sm,it is an sm enhanced genjutsu,just like how naruto's rasengan is better than his base rasengan.
Ems madara requires eye contact for his genjutsu,and hashi not getting caught isnt a great feat,all 5 kages faced 5 madaras and didnt get caught,only A due to being distracted.
That shit genjutsu caught itachi and sasuke at the same time,if it was so shitty,then the master of genjutsu,or at leats 2 ms level uchihas would have broken out instantly by themselves,yet they needed to actually place a genjutsu on each other to get out,unfortunately for hashi,the only ems user is his opponent.
You think just necause hashi is on that statue he cant be caught?:leaf:
Hashirama: "I am coming Madara"
Madara: "Come Hashirama"
that was a dialogue after it came out,and neither madara nor hashirama wee shouting at all,yet a genjutsu brought about by blowing a flute wont reach his ears.
Oh,and one more thing,hashi dosent even start in sage mode
match starts,kabuto uses sound gen,walks up and cutf off his head. The end
pateuvasiliu
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Kabuto's sound genjutsu was amplified by the cave's echo.
If Hashi uses Shinsuusenju there is no cave.
If Hashi uses Shinsuusenju there is no cave.
Kurenai caught itachi in genjutsu. What's your point again?
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What a crap genjutsu. They can even see what's going on around them, L.
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Look how quickly that was broken. They broke it while he had orochimaru rushing toward them. LuL
Match starts: hashi sprouts a forest and kabuto can no longer see him. next page, kabuto is stabbed by a hashi clone. Hashi realises he heals and ups the anti. Hashi splits him in half and watches him die.
>Inb4 kabuto grows a new body
>Inb4 kabuto's hozuki hydrification is instant (yep enton arrow damaged him... unusual)
>Inb4 you start to extend orochimaru's abilities to kabuto
Before you respond. Please collect the scans for the bullshit you will inevitably speak. I await "Oral rebirth!". "Thousand Snake Body!"
Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg
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XD XD XD XD
yes Hashi who has never shown any impressive taijutsu/speed feat will stab a guy who required 2 MS users (one of them was as fast as Lee without gates in part1 and most likely improved)
I wonder why Hashitards are spamming fanfictions in almost every vs thread...
VolatileSoul
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You must be deluding yourself if you think Hashi wins this. He is up against his two nightmares! Kabuto's knowledge here is lethal. Didn't Kabuto have a poison that specifically weakens wood release users? He can sense and dodge almost all of Hashi's attacks. On the off chance that one hits, hydrification will mitigate all damage, not to mention even without sage mode, Kabuto had powerful self healing. With this boosted by sage mode, added with the white snake abilities and Karin's regen... how does Hashi even hurt him? Even if Hashi does critical damage, he can simply use oral rebirth. Nothing short of destroying his head will kill him, just like a true snake.
This doesn't mean he can beat Hashirama though, because while he possesses the offensive might to do Hashi in, with Hashirama jumping from giant tree to giant tree and creating entire forest, he will almost always be out of Kabuto's range. This is where Madara will will be deadly. Thanks to Bansho Tenin. I favor these two to win more times than they would lose against Hashirama, considering they are Hashi's perfect counter, and if the two of them can't, it is almost certain no one can beat Hashirama.
This doesn't mean he can beat Hashirama though, because while he possesses the offensive might to do Hashi in, with Hashirama jumping from giant tree to giant tree and creating entire forest, he will almost always be out of Kabuto's range. This is where Madara will will be deadly. Thanks to Bansho Tenin. I favor these two to win more times than they would lose against Hashirama, considering they are Hashi's perfect counter, and if the two of them can't, it is almost certain no one can beat Hashirama.
Kakashi Hatakeo
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DSM kabuto a non factor lol he can still use sound 4 and oros powers, liquify himself which means would does nothing also split into a load of snakes and most importantly is really quick at the very least he could distract hashirama throughout the fight but yeah i still give it to hashirama cause without kyuubi madara wont be a match for hashirama.
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TheSages456
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he had that before and still lost. it was inferior to hashirama even when fused with the kyuubi.
1) comparing the healing of hashi to an edo?,and tsunade is cut in half,is she regenerating?,yea,thats what i thought.
2)so the power of tayuya's genjutsu,is the same as kabuto's sage mode enhanced genjutsu?,neither of the uchiha bros could move,neither will hashi,he cant control wood without his arms,so yea,he is dead.
3)too bad the only sharingan genjutsu user gere is not on hashi's side.sasule used ens genjutsu to break itachi's own,wheras itachi used a tsukiyomi to break sasuke's own
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,i'd love to see hashirama break it.
4)LOL, kabuto's white rage will easily paralyze hashi from the start,it took lie 4 panels only to activate the sound gen,once hashi gets hit with white rage,he gets paralyzed,kabuto follows up with a genjutsu,walks up and cuts his head off.
Kabuto who can sense,has the reflexes to make dodging arrows an easy thing,is gonna be hit by a wood clone?. Wood attacks physically,hydrification renders physical attacks useless
kurenai caught itachi,itachi reversed ot back at her and told her genjutsu of that level was useless,whereas he couldnt break out of kabuto's genjutsu himself,whats your point?.
TheSages456
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its a pebble compared to shinsuusenju. hashirama smacks it and turns it to dust. madaras meteor is barely mountain sized. shinsuusenju take out mountain ranges and creates a valley with one attack.