Hashirama vs Nagato

[House]

I can honestly say this is one of the better versus threads I have seen on the base good job:scorps: ​

Because finally someone stands a chance against Nagato.

 

[6pathofpain]

You make it sound like the 1st Hokage would be a childplay. =/ From what do you think Madara died from? Tripped on a rock and cracked his neck? You're greatly underestimating the 1st Hokage... and get your facts straight cause I don't understand most of it. Organize this shit.



*sinks down to your level* Why would a little ball in the sky would mean a potential danger? I haz a baseball in da back, I can throw it up, it comes down. O_O go figure.

well usually i would apologize for it being unorganized cause im eat/watchin tv/an on a few websites but since ur kinda bein ******* allow me to return the favor...nigga i dont have to organize shit, if u cant read it that ur own problem, if u jus read it its pretty clear, i no the 1st is strong but he simple doesnt have enough at his disposal to win this fight... but please since my facts arent straight please tell me wats wrong

 

[House]

I cant believe this is still going on smh...Look the forest with the pollen thing is useless agianst some1 who can A fly, or B punch the ground an create a ocean, nagato can change the battlefield jus as easy as the first...2 when it comes to taijustsu that would only result in the use of the human path which if he touches him he WILL take his soul...the blackness thing is really the only problem but seeing how nagato can see chakra we do no if he'd b able to since him or not but even if he cant he can use the rain to get a general area of where he's attack an attack accordingly an seein how nagatos deva path has alot of pretty wide range attacks like the almighty push that wont b alot of a problem...An honestly the first can keep healin himself if he wants but its jus gonna **** his chakra up, an make no mistake if nagato can power 6 dead bodies, get them to the leaf village, have all of them have a seprate fight, destroy the leaf village, have the all fight sage mode naruto, beat 3 giant toads an killed the little grandpa 1 which im guessin suppose to b really strong at least they kinda made him seem that way, then beat hinata, fight 6 tails the use the planetary devastation , beat six tails, was about to fight 8 tails fought sage mode again, then still had enough chakra to bring every1 n the village bak to life, an that was all while he was sick so hopefully every1 can stop sayin he doesnt have stamina or enough chakra...An yes he can use the paths at once cause some1 posted the link when he was fightin killer b an naruto he absorb both of there chakra an was using the other path which was about to blow b's face off...An wat exactly can the 1st do agianst the planetary devastation cause i dont think a trees gonna destroy a floating black ball, lets b real guys all the 1st can really do is punch hard an sommon trees an wood, i believe he can also use water but that hasnt been seen so we dont no to wat extent an he can do the blackness thing...yea hes strong, but not that strong.

well usually i would apologize for it being unorganized cause im eat/watchin tv/an on a few websites but since ur kinda bein ******* allow me to return the favor...nigga i dont have to organize shit, if u cant read it that ur own problem, if u jus read it its pretty clear, i no the 1st is strong but he simple doesnt have enough at his disposal to win this fight... but please since my facts arent straight please tell me wats wrong

Seriously? You're telling me that a one huge sentence like that isn't disorganized, and it is perfectly fine grammatically. Have you heard of the term "run-on sentence"? Either you're trying to get back at me in which you're failing majorly or you're just a total moron. Why would anyone read this? People can't even comprehend as what you had written there... :sy:

 

[arv993]

wait, who will kabuto beat?

kabuto would beat him. lol all he needs is one summon and that is madara uchiha. either way his e/t is too hax for anyone.

 

[6pathofpain]

Seriously? You're telling me that a one huge sentence like that isn't disorganized, and it is perfectly fine grammatically. Have you heard of the term "run-on sentence"? Either you're trying to get back at me in which you're failing majorly or you're just a total moron. Why would anyone read this? People can't even comprehend as what you had written there... :sy:

No i no its disorganized but honestly i was payin a whole lot of attention an i didnt care enought to organize it

 

[arv993]

No i no its disorganized but honestly i was payin a whole lot of attention an i didnt care enought to organize it

quick question is your first language english.

 

[6pathofpain]

quick question is your first language english.

yep jus dont feel the need to speak good english on the computer ill say anythin on this shit lol

 

[Only naruto and nagato]

ist hokage is really strong may be the strongest but he cant defeat nagato.

 

[arv993]

yep jus dont feel the need to speak good english on the computer ill say anythin on this shit lol

oh ok i see. yea i get lazy too from time to timexd

 

[Capn FlapJak]

I swear too many of u fight over spellin unless it unreadable your just being a prick I give this one to nagato the biggest feat the 1st had to beat madara pre rinnegan with 9 tails but it wasn't in him like naruto just controlled by sharingan big diff cause tailed beast r strong but beast minded in other words dumb they r much more deadly in the body of a human example the 4th wasn't the strongest and didn't need strength to seal nagato is 1 of the few people I see beatin the fox on power without needin sum seal my point is the 1st main feat of beatin a ems madara with fox pain could do his job was catching tails seein how he was said to never have lost and would have killed naruto he was pretty boss but never the less the 1st most have been a beast so good match anyway

 

[The Manga Critique]

Oh sorry I did't Know i was. Im new to this. Do i just not like the Quote message in reply?

Right next to the "quote" are "" you can quote multiple peope/posts at once. Makes it easier to see who you're addressing etc. There's also the edit button if you make a mistake or would like to reiterate.


IMO Nagato takes this. But as I said, Hashi seems to be pretty darn powerful.

 

[Uchiha Riyo]

Nagato is too much even for Hashirama. Nagato is the second SO6P, I think anyways.

 

[Ryuu..]

I'd tend to disagree with every one of you. Here is why. Spoiler alert.

Spoiler

1st Hokage was able to heal himself without any handseals, and he was able to cast destruction without even thinking about it. The latest manga had brought a lot of info on the 1st hokage. I'd highly doubt that Nagato could take on the 1st Hokage. You won't be able to deflect all those roots coming from everywhere, you'll be binded. He'll make a forest, Nagato is done.

Nagato destroys it with Chibaku Tensei or Shinra Tensei

Im not saying he was terrible but he could have been better

Best after the So6P :

Maybe this will help, not saying it will 100%.
Taijutsu battle: If i were Hashi i wudnt even try cuz of the Human, Asura, and Deva paths Nagato has.
Ninjutsu battle: Kinda tough actually, Nagato could just Banshou Ten'in and Shinra Tensei Hashi and spam that. But if Hashirama figures out the 5 second cooldown then it's gonna be really hard for Nagato. I still vote Nagato because of Shinra Tensei.
Genjutsu battle: Hashirama has Bringer-of-Darkness but it's useless against Nagato since he has Rinnegan and can see the flow of chakra.

All of Hashirama's ninjutsu (including Mokuton) is rendered usless against Nagato due to Asura Path.

I can honestly say this is one of the better versus threads I have seen on the base good job:scorps: ​

Thanks xd

Because finally someone stands a chance against Nagato.

Nagato wins this.

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

BOLD ONE:
do you know why that happens because he had the the other eyes on naruto and this case they are blinded. i am really wonxdering who is the brick wall here seriously

BOLD TWO:
Dude you have no proof he can use all paths at once and second he doesnt have the stamina to do that. stop blaming plot no jutsu on everything. I can say the same thing about hashirama how madara doesnt kno how to use his powers and he can use it 10x better. all you are doing is speculating . sure he can use multiple paths at once but is never shown using more than one during CT or using it all once. AGAIN ALL YOU ARE DOING IS SPECULATING. something that is not valid in vs threads. Stop blaming plot no jutsu 1. he does not have stamina to use it all at techs at once 2. he has not been shown that so your point holds no ground

i kno his techs are stronger and faster but it doesnt mean the interval does not exist.


AND let me reiterate for the 15th time Bringer of darkness blinds nagato meaning he cant see him or his summons. so meaning he cant do what he did with naruto and his rasengan. DO YOU UNDERSTAND. IF he is blind as kabuto said he is a much easier target

AND that is how itachi easily got him with his totsuka due to his sights being destroyed look here at the link

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So let me make this very clear if his eyes are blinded which in this case is due to bringer of darkness he has blind spots and if he has blind spots he can get attacked easily and wont kno where the attcks are coming from or what to use. similar when itachi used totsuka he could have used shinra tensei but he did not kno the attack was coming. BUT in naruto's rasengan scenario you mentioned his summons were out so he does not have to look at naruto.

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see here there is a summon(chameleon) and it can see naruto thus nagato doesnt have to look at naruto during his attack.

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right here his eyes were blinded and thus could not see an attack coming and could not beat it, the same scenario is what would happen with hashi once he uses bringer of death. And this is no plot no jutsu as kabuto specifically says that his shared vision allowed him to make up for his mobility which allowed him to defend and attack against effectively against his opponents. Once could not see it he could not defend against it and then got sealed

Dude and he is blind meaning he does not knno where the attacks are coming from he wouldnt magically just catch weapons with his asura path without his sight, he would kno where his mokuton can come from and the pollen can poison him too and kill him he is at a terrible disadvantage against hashirama's tech bringer of darkness

I hope you understand and next time use proof and say stuff like he can use all 6 paths at once or during CT that is nothing but speculation and vs threads we dont go with stuff like that.

You must not read sentences properly or understand them very well. If you did then you will realise that I have already countered your argument even before you wrote this reply. You accuse me of speculating heavily yet I have already showed you pages of Nagato being able to use multiple Rinnegan abilities at the same time, so why wouldnt Nagato be able to use CT with any other paths at the same time? Just because it hasnt been shown doesnt mean its not true, that logic of yours is flawed. For example, we have seen Edo Madara use Preta Path only so far, now with your logic does that mean he cant use any other Rinnegan abiilties because there isnt a manga page showing it? Its common sense, which you clearly dont have as you keep reminding me of that.

As for stamina, clearly you have forgotten what Nagato is capable of as events from the past shows. If you seriously believe that Nagato doesnt have enough chakra stamina then its not worth it to argue with you on this matter as you already are deluded. Nagato Uzumaki, is all I have to say.


As for your points on his summonings, I admit I forget they were around allowing him to visualise multiply. However, still that doesnt mean there arent another ways to counter Bringer of Darkness. If you remember I stated them being Shinra Tensei or CT, now I really hope you will see the light as to how these two tecniques will dismiss Hashirama's genjutsu. If not then I will give Shinra Tensei as an example, a 360* Shinra Tensei, especially a large one, is enough to knock back Hashirama away further, since Bringer of Darkness is a genjutsu it would dismiss it as it requires concentration. Also you said about the interval, the interval time is around 5 seconds if memory serves me right for Deva Path during the Konoha Invasion. Unless Hashirama is fast as Naruto then he is not reaching Nagato a second early, with or without Mokuton. Also since this is Nagato , abilities all in one then his interval time will also be low, as Naruto already stated how this one greatly differs from the Paths of Pain.


You say that I shouldnt use Plot-no jutsu as an excuse but guess what? It should be mentioned because the storyline doesnt affect these types of versus threads, which I have seen you applying your basis of your 'arguments'. Also you are a hypocrite as I have seen you speculating numerous times, such as "he doesnt have enough chakra". Isnt the whole point of versus threads pure speculation anyway? Because I dont think there will ever be a match between Hashirama vs Nagato, so its pure speculation, according to your logic. My 'speculations' are attached with logical reasoning.


Therefore I will mention it again, Hashirama isnt winning this as long has Nagato is a Rinnegan user, especially if Hashirama doesnt have the knowledge of the Rinnegan abilities. Simply because of the Rinnegan abilities grants Nagato to counter all of Hashirama's abilities. Even the latest addition of Hashirama being able to heal himself, so what? That doesnt mean he would have unlimited chakra to keep fighting. While as Nagato has Preta path ability to simply feed on Hashirama's Mokuton or any other ninjutsus. Lastly, you also have the mastery of the 5 elements by Nagato.

 

[narutownsyouall]

first of all i havent seen a single person counter my points which means you guys obviously have no way of showing Nagato beats Hashirama and secondly Bringer of darkness works on the Sharingan and it shows chakra too which means it will work just the same on Nagato leaving him blind.

Nagato cont make a huge Shinra tensai without using a lot of chakra and Hashirama can warp into the ground to avoid it each time or protect with mokuton

 

[Ryuu..]

first of all i havent seen a single person counter my points which means you guys obviously have no way of showing Nagato beats Hashirama and secondly Bringer of darkness works on the Sharingan and it shows chakra too which means it will work just the same on Nagato leaving him blind.

Nagato cont make a huge Shinra tensai without using a lot of chakra and Hashirama can warp into the ground to avoid it each time or protect with mokuton

FFS, he never used it vs the sharingan. Stop making things up.....

 

[narutownsyouall]

FFS, he never used it vs the sharingan. Stop making things up.....

So when hashirama fought with Madara he didnt use bringer of darkness?

And sorry for jumping the gun your right I dont know the effects of bringer on a sharingan but the technique takes away sight And seeing chakra is a part of sight so bringer would take away his sight and ability to see chakra

 

[Ryuu..]

So when hashirama fought with Madara he didnt use bringer of darkness?

And sorry for jumping the gun your right I dont know the effects of bringer on a sharingan but the technique takes away sight And seeing chakra is a part of sight so bringer would take away his sight and ability to see chakra

My friend, that's not confirmed. We know nothing about what went down in Hashirama vs Madara battle except Hashirama one. So you can't use any examples from there.........

 

[Naruto9001]

Hashirama with ease. Nagato is weaker than Tobi who is stated to be a shell of his old self even though his probadly not Madara but still he acts like Madara is stronger than him who is weaker than Hashirama.

 

[narutownsyouall]

Thats fine but Bringerof darkness still stops eye sight wich you need to see chakra.

My point is that I've been posting all thses great points as to how hashirama would win and nobody counters them and they continue to say nagato wins without proof sorry for bringing something i assumed