Hashirama vs Nagato

[Rovian]

Oh yes fair enough that part slipped me but still how is Mokuton gonna contain CT's sphere when everything around it is attracting everything? It is just making it bigger as more objects gets compacted together, even wood.

And thats my whole point the whole reason Nagato had to be sealed off is because of him being hax, hax enough that required 3 powerful shinobi's to take him out. How do you think Kishi limits a characters powers? By plot no jutsu, which was my main point. Again like I said logically speaking if Kabuto was really smart in terms of fight, he simply could have spammed Deidara's abilities on the Shinobi army, again Kishi didnt because of the plot.

And so what even if it is possible for Hashirama to contain CT somehow, there are still other abilities of Nagao that Hashirama cant counter.

He could use any other Mokuton technique that we simply don't know anything about, it's not necessarily going to be a known Jutsu..

It's like taking off one of Nagato's powers, and then say "how can Nagato evade a 1000 Shuriken attack at the same time?" if we didn't know anything about Shinra Tensei then we would have count him dead, right..? but because we know about Shinra Tensei then we'll simply say that "he'll obviously going to deflect all of these 1000 Shuriken in just one Shinra Tensei blow.."

It's logically the same goes to Hashirama.. when Nagato uses Chibaku Tensei, Hashirama might have a technique to block that away.. so it's really unfair comparison as I said before as we lack more information about Hashirama's power to give more precise speculations.

 

[arv993]

Naruto and his ninjutsu which is usless vs Nagato..........................................

you forget his sm frog katas lol. naruto is superior to nagato overall and with a bunch of kage level clones running around he can get a hit with a sm clone and nagato is done. not to mention now with BM he can beat most of nagato's techs.

 

[Rovian]

Lol thats the thing some of you lot misinterpreted it the wrong way. Kabuto was talking about Hashirama's abilities of Mokuton, basically Mokuton was regarded as a fairly tail because you'd have to seen it to believe it, this is why he compared Hashirama to the Sage because of Sage's feat of creating the moon itself. As it would have sounded like a fairly tale for most people.

Kabuto says one thing yet logically Rinnegan's abilities can all counter Hashirama's abilities.

Kabuto was talking about Hashirama's "Power" in general that to be considered as a fairy tail, just like the Rikudou Sennin.. and not only one of his abilities.

 

[Ryuu..]

you forget his sm frog katas lol. naruto is superior to nagato overall and with a bunch of kage level clones running around he can get a hit with a sm clone and nagato is done. not to mention now with BM he can beat most of nagato's techs.

Naruto > Nagato? you've been offering great arguments, don't ruin it all in one moment of madness.

You showed the page where it said itachi hit all the blind spots via shuriken but that is only because Itachi specialised in that type of attack;

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Known as shurikenjutsu. I highly doubt Hashirama specialised in this.

 

[Rovian]

Naruto > Nagato? you've been offering great arguments, don't ruin it all in one moment of madness.

You showed the page where it said itachi hit all the blind spots via shuriken but that is only because Itachi specialised in that type of attack;

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Known as shurikenjutsu. I highly doubt Hashirama specialised in this.

No actually, Nagato>SM Naruto any day.. when Pain was fighting Naruto he could have killed him anytime he wanted, but the reason he wanted him alive is because he didn't want to kill the Nine-tails that sealed within him.. fighting without the intent to kill is not an easy task.

 

[Ryuu..]

No actually, Nagato>SM Naruto any day.. when Pain was fighting Naruto he could have killed him anytime he wanted, but the reason he wanted him alive is because he didn't want to kill the Nine-tails that sealed within him.. fighting without the intent to kill is not an easy task.

LOL why are you telling me that? I never said Naruto > Nagato ..............................

 

[Rovian]

LOL why are you telling me that? I never said Naruto > Nagato ..............................

I know you didn't , wanted to make that clear only..

 

[arv993]

Naruto > Nagato? you've been offering great arguments, don't ruin it all in one moment of madness.

You showed the page where it said itachi hit all the blind spots via shuriken but that is only because Itachi specialised in that type of attack;

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Known as shurikenjutsu. I highly doubt Hashirama specialised in this.

no i meant in the sense that he can restrain them easily. whatever i gotta go

BUt i will spend my time to talk about naruto vs nagato

are u kidding me with BM + his clones in sm or km + his summons he can beat nagato

My reasoning why
Shinra tensei- beaten by kuruma as seen by six tails easily resistng and pushing back deva's shinra tensei

CT- he can destoy that with his large scale tbb or even a bunch of clones throwing rasenshuriken and now he has his own chakra plus kyubi to do this

preta path and human path-nagato has to be close to nagato to actually get all his chakra and naruto being one of the fastest ninja it aint gonna happen

And nagato's summons can be beaten by naruto's oad army especially if he has pa and ma

Naruto has many clones for distraction and has good counters to nagato and he can definitely hit nagato seeing his superiority in numbers, speed and even raw power now.

 

[Rovian]

I wouldn't think Nagato can beat the current Naruto though, controlling the Nine-tails Chakra/Mind gave Naruto an exceptional powers..

But that's not the case here anyways, thread's about Hashirama vs Nagato.

 

[arv993]

LOL why are you telling me that? I never said Naruto > Nagato ..............................

i never said sm naruto but sm clones lol big difference. Like here

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Naruto with full chakra not much depleted from the war has the capability of making multiple KM clones strong enough to change the tides of the war all of whom are extremely fast as well and would be great distractions. NOt only that now he has ninteails who doesnt take chakra fromhim he has anther resource allowing him to make clones like sm clones and such not to mention his summons. together in full power he is better than nagato and has counter for most his powers and ehas the advantage in speed, numbers and raw power .

 

[Ryuu..]

no i meant in the sense that he can restrain them easily. whatever i gotta go

BUt i will spend my time to talk about naruto vs nagato

are u kidding me with BM + his clones in sm or km + his summons he can beat nagato

My reasoning why
Shinra tensei- beaten by kuruma as seen by six tails easily resistng and pushing back deva's shinra tensei

CT- he can destoy that with his large scale tbb or even a bunch of clones throwing rasenshuriken and now he has his own chakra plus kyubi to do this

preta path and human path-nagato has to be close to nagato to actually get all his chakra and naruto being one of the fastest ninja it aint gonna happen

And nagato's summons can be beaten by naruto's oad army especially if he has pa and ma

Naruto has many clones for distraction and has good counters to nagato and he can definitely hit nagato seeing his superiority in numbers, speed and even raw power now.

Naruto is 90% Ninjutsu, he's not beating healthy Nagato for sh*t :rofl:

 

[Rovian]

no i meant in the sense that he can restrain them easily. whatever i gotta go

BUt i will spend my time to talk about naruto vs nagato

are u kidding me with BM + his clones in sm or km + his summons he can beat nagato

My reasoning why
Shinra tensei- beaten by kuruma as seen by six tails easily resistng and pushing back deva's shinra tensei

CT- he can destoy that with his large scale tbb or even a bunch of clones throwing rasenshuriken and now he has his own chakra plus kyubi to do this

preta path and human path-nagato has to be close to nagato to actually get all his chakra and naruto being one of the fastest ninja it aint gonna happen

And nagato's summons can be beaten by naruto's oad army especially if he has pa and ma

Naruto has many clones for distraction and has good counters to nagato and he can definitely hit nagato seeing his superiority in numbers, speed and even raw power now.

True 100%, current Naruto is just too powerful for Nagato.. Tobi struggled to keep up with him having all the tails by his side, he done an insanely scary things in just few minutes he unlocked his KM, imagine if he had stayed in that Mode for like the whole fight, he'll be undefeated, imo..

 

[arv993]

Naruto is 90% Ninjutsu, he's not beating healthy Nagato for sh*t :rofl:

lol it doesnt matter he needs to land a frog kata on him and as we have seen nagato is fragile and what more than a few kage level extremely fast clones runnng around they are perfect distractions. all naruto has to do is land a solid blow on him.ninety percent ninjutsu doesnt matter he has the specific tool to beat nagato and has all the distractions as well as the chakra he needs.

 

[arv993]

shit i realized how much a life i have i literally spent like 3 hours debating about one fictional character beats the other lmafo.

 

[Rovian]

Naruto is 90% Ninjutsu, he's not beating healthy Nagato for sh*t :rofl:

The reason why arguing with fans is pointless, you guys end up giving these kinds of shots which is as well "pointless.."

 

[arv993]

True 100%, current Naruto is just too powerful for Nagato.. Tobi struggled to keep up with him having all the tails by his side, he done an insanely scary things in just few minutes he unlocked his KM, imagine if he had stayed in that Mode for like the whole fight, he'll be undefeated, imo..

kishi overpowered the shit out kuruma. Ninetails tbb is slightly better than 5 tb's combined what the hell. But i see the reason behind it seeng how OP madara is now

 

[Rovian]

kishi overpowered the shit out kuruma. Ninetails tbb is slightly better than 5 tb's combined what the hell. But i see the reason behind it seeng how OP madara is now

Yup, overpowering the villain character requires overpowering the main character lol, next chapter is awesome though.. Sasuke's face is so expressive.

 

[arv993]

Yup, overpowering the villain character requires overpowering the main character lol, next chapter is awesome though.. Sasuke's face is so expressive.

i think he should have taken everything slower not Overpowered everyone to that extent but whatev. yea sasuke and itachi scene was funny, but now there is one more reason sasuke gains more hatred.

 

[Rovian]

i think he should have taken everything slower not Overpowered everyone to that extent but whatev. yea sasuke and itachi scene was funny, but now there is one more reason sasuke gains more hatred.

I just wish he turns his hatred towards Kabuto too, who originally summoned his brother lol, highly doubtful though, but well.. :I

 

[Anub]

Nagato's arsenal is just so much bigger than Hashirama's.........

Wait what ?! How do you know?

All we know about Hashirama was that he used Mokuton, but we don't know how limited his techs were ... please don't assume you know everything he's capable of, because that's BS.

And let's not forget that in the last manga chapter, Kabuto compared Hashirama to Rikudo Sennin, saying they were close in strength.