Hashirama vs Nagato

[arv993]

he can still use his tech inside it. I don't see how hashirama would survive a fatal shinra tensei which have zero warning sign even kakashi don't know what hit him even though he has the sharingan, hashirama won't see shinra comin so he won't be able to guard himself meaning he would be hit dispeling the genjutsu.

he has his wood to protect him, tsunade saved a bunch of ppl with her jutsu i doubt hashirama would get hurt extremely seeing how big his jutsus are. And his big shinra tensei are extremely obvious lol. And he survived kyubi nine tails power and tbb and such we kno his defense with his mokuton is strong. and he wouldn't know what direction to hit hashirama if he using a small one he would send them off randomly since he is blind.

 

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he has his wood to protect him, tsunade saved a bunch of ppl with her jutsu i doubt hashirama would get hurt extremely seeing how big his jutsus are. And his big shinra tensei are extremely obvious lol. and he wouldn't know what direction to hit hashirama if he using a small one he would send them off randomly since he is blind.

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[arv993]

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where is that i did not see it.

 

[Ryuu..]

Nagato's arsenal is just so much bigger than Hashirama's.........

 

[arv993]

@rikudomadara

idk why i couldnt quote u but
DO you realize that he cant use all those techs at once right. Shinra tensei as far as we have seen can only be used but not in complement with others. CT requires both hands and a lot of his chakra at once he is not buyng time with jutsus like that. shinra tensei for example is a simple jutsu and both parties do not need a lot of time to attack or defend. CT requires both parties to use a shit ton of chakra and requires some amount of time from both of them.

 

[Rovian]

I'd also like to mention that Kishi just showed off a little glimpse of Hashirama's power, I'm sure there are many more powerful techniques that has not yet been revealed which could be so powerful and deadly..

Here, just see how many Jutsu are there for Hashirama compared to Nagato, it's really unfair to compare a fully "known" character with another one that we barely seen anything from..

Hashirama:

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Nagato:

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Check the amount of Jutsu's between the two and judge for yourself..

 

[arv993]

I'd also like to mention that Kishi just showed off a little glimpse of Hashirama's power, I'm sure there are many more powerful techniques that has not yet bean revealed which could be so powerful and deadly..

Here, just see how many Jutsu are there for Hashirama compared to Nagato, it's really unfair to compare a fully "known" character with another one that we barely seen anything from..

Hashirama:

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Nagato:

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Check the amount of Jutsu's between the two and judge for yourself..

That is a bit of a speculation we have to do but we need more info on him but he has some amazing and very impressive techs already.

But nagato fans dont realize that kabuto is a better judge than themselves. HE had nagato and seen his powers unlike BM naruto or EMS sasuke which he has not seen but he makes a bold statement how hashirama is better than other ninjas of recent times.

 

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where is that i did not see it.

Go to page 20, post #297.

And as a reply for your latest post, Nagato can use all those Rinnegan tecniques at once, hence why he makes out to be one of the strongest characters.

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There you can see Nagato using Asura Path and Human Path I think, all at the same time. So he can use any combos simultaneously

 

[serpiente clan]

Nagato can use the 5 element he can use wind. To cut wood and he can use fire and lininth and earht dont see how hashirama can win this... naruto can killl hashirama we shirukennn easy

 

[OWanime]

I chose nagato but obviously hashirama has more up his sleeve like in the scrolls just like hiruzen and minato who never showed their full arsenal xd

 

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That is a it of a speculation we have to do BUt nagato fans dont realize that kabuto is a better judge than themselves. HE had nagato and seen his powers unlike BM naruto or EMS sasuke and he makes a bold statement how hashirama is better than other ninjas of recent times.

Lol thats the thing some of you lot misinterpreted it the wrong way. Kabuto was talking about Hashirama's abilities of Mokuton, basically Mokuton was regarded as a fairly tail because you'd have to seen it to believe it, this is why he compared Hashirama to the Sage because of Sage's feat of creating the moon itself. As it would have sounded like a fairly tale for most people.

Kabuto says one thing yet logically Rinnegan's abilities can all counter Hashirama's abilities.

 

[warlee]

he has his wood to protect him, tsunade saved a bunch of ppl with her jutsu i doubt hashirama would get hurt extremely seeing how big his jutsus are. And his big shinra tensei are extremely obvious lol. And he survived kyubi nine tails power and tbb and such we kno his defense with his mokuton is strong. and he wouldn't know what direction to hit hashirama if he using a small one he would send them off randomly since he is blind.

hashirama won't know what is coming. Tsunade know pain want to do something when deva fly up which is why she gave the order that katsyu should protect everyone before deva fired the tech and shinra tensei is 360 not 180 as demostrated against gama trio and if the shinra tensei used against gama trio can break their bones then i'm sure hashirama in mid range who won't know what is comin would be broken into part

 

[Ryuu..]

Go to page 20, post #297.

And as a reply for your latest post, Nagato can use all those Rinnegan tecniques at once, hence why he makes out to be one of the strongest characters.

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There you can see Nagato using Asura Path and Human Path I think, all at the same time. So he can use any combos simultaneously

Also notice how Nagato doesn't need to be looking at the target to activate his technique, thus questioning the idea that he has blind spots etc.............................

 

[arv993]

Go to page 20, post #297.

And as a reply for your latest post, Nagato can use all those Rinnegan tecniques at once, hence why he makes out to be one of the strongest characters.

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There you can see Nagato using Asura Path and Human Path I think, all at the same time. So he can use any combos simultaneously

i know that I have read the manga lol. BUT can he use it while CT not that we have seen it seems he needs two hands to use it and uses a lot of chakra and attention to that one jutsu when he uses it. Shinra tensei is also similar and has not been seen to used with other ones simultaneously but he can probably use one other one path along with it. WE are speculating when we say that he can use all at once. IF he could kabuto would have tried wouldn't he. sure he can use more than one path at a time but not all at once then he would have killed naruto, itachi and bee while they were trying to beat his CT. Ct seems to take time and he seems to need some time b4 making the next move

 

[Rovian]

That is a it of a speculation we have to do BUt nagato fans dont realize that kabuto is a better judge than themselves. HE had nagato and seen his powers unlike BM naruto or EMS sasuke and he makes a bold statement how hashirama is better than other ninjas of recent times.

Yup, Kabuto's knowledge way surpasses any other Shinobi too.. cause he had them under his control, so he knows well all of their weaknesses and how to deal with it.. and when he says that Nagato lacks mobility then he got to be right cause he had him under his control and knows better.. you guys should understand that.

 

[warlee]

That is a bit of a speculation we have to do but we need more info on him but he has some amazing and very impressive techs already.

But nagato fans dont realize that kabuto is a better judge than themselves. HE had nagato and seen his powers unlike BM naruto or EMS sasuke which he has not seen but he makes a bold statement how hashirama is better than other ninjas of recent times.

kabuto said there are not ninja on hashirama level anymore. Nagato is no more, he has not seen tobi,naruto or even sasuke

 

[arv993]

Also notice how Nagato doesn't need to be looking at the target to activate his technique, thus questioning the idea that he has blind spots etc.............................

yes but when he is blind he can be attacking and notice in the previous page that this due to the eye of one of his summon. They show that in this link pay close attention

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the eye of that summon looks at bee but this wouldnt be the case with hashi since he can easily stop any summon and not to mention if the summons are surrounded with trees. AND this is assuming that hashi's jutsu only affects nagato.

 

[mas129]

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CT starts off small and more time passes the bigger it gets, one way of countering it to attack it straight away while it is smaller so requiring less force. Madara, however was able to create a massive Mukoton almost instantly (hashirama could probably to the same thing) and attack while it is small. One way of countering CT.

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Something like this (obviously bigger) might do the job

 

[warlee]

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CT starts off small and more time passes the bigger it gets, one way of countering it to attack it straight away while it is smaller so requiring less force. Madara, however was able to create a massive Mukoton almost instantly (hashirama could probably to the same thing) and attack while it is small

which hashirama tech would reach that high in the sky? And how will hashirama know how it work or know what nagato want to do?

 

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i know that I have read the manga lol. BUT can he use it while CT not that we have seen it seems he needs two hands to use it and uses a lot of chakra and attention to that one jutsu when he uses it. Shinra tensei is also similar and has not been seen to used with other ones simultaneously but he can probably use one other one path along with it. WE are speculating when we say that he can use all at once. IF he could kabuto would have tried wouldn't he. sure he can use more than one path at a time but not all at once then he would have killed naruto, itachi and bee while they were trying to beat his CT. Ct seems to take time and he seems to need some time b4 making the next move

See this is the bit where plot no jutsu comes in, Kabuto had to play like a noob while using Nagato because if he hadnt then for all we know Naruto, Bee and Itachi would have died..ending the whole story. So Nagato had to die somehow. Also Kabuto isnt the best fighter, if he really is clever in terms of fighting then he would have controlled Deidara to use his C4 to end mass shinobi's. Again he didnt because of plot no jutsu.


Also the CT you are referring to is from Deva Path only, this is Nagato who is much more powerful as his abilities are one. There is a page where Nagato whips out a meteor out of nothing, on a small scale to Madara, while fighting Bee and Naruto.