Hashirama vs Nagato

[darnelljr]

nagato

 

[Rade]

Im going with negato. Everyone seems to act like harishima completely slaughtered Madara when they both fought very hard in that fight but unfortunately the first was slightly (emphasis on slightly) stronger than Madara and this was before he got the Rinnigen. Negato is healthy mobile and can use all or the Rin techs at once.

Harishima has no answer to nuke scale shinra tennsi, chibaku tensi, or human path (which only requires a touch and his soul is gone). While harishima is a great ninja he has never fought a Rin user so he does not know what to expect.

And have you all forgotten the giant flower tech needs a little time to take effect negato can shinra tensi the pollin keeping himself safe.

And let's not forget negatos 7+ summons one which allows him to fly keeping him safe from any wood release techs. And not to mention he can fly with out his summon. If harishima tries to play it safe from a distance negato answers with bansho tennin pulling him to him or he can just use the meteor tech he used against KB naruto and Itachi.

Hell even if I came to strictly hand to hand negato wins because of asura paths 6 xtra arms and increased strength.

And let's not forget if all else fails negato can use his instant kill chakra dragon, ofcourse this puts him in the state he was when he died but it's an absolute last resort and he would still be alive just weakend

Harishima is strong and an incredible ninja but negato is a beast he has to many techs for harishima to counter. Hell IMO if harishima fought Rin Madara he would lose because of how many techs come with the dojutusu.

As we know Hashirama fought Madarra and won. and the Madarra he fought (the real one not tobi) has rinnegan and he had the 9 tails under his control. and Hashirama still won. So I think Hashirama could win this fairly easy. Nagato has some good attacks but Hashirama knows them and could and did conter them and win.

 

[Rade]

nagato

Why pray tell? if u look at my reply to ThEpRoMiSeDlAnD you can see why I disagree.

 

[The Manga Critique]

naggato could barley handle half of kurama power hashirama wins this for me

Nagato's intent was to capture the Kyubii and attempt at not killing the host. He was trying to extract the kyubii from Naruto, not destroy the two. He was about to make a second Chibaku tensai, that would have been larger. He had enough power afterwards to bring all the people in the village their souls back. Ithink it is quite obvious that he could've defeated Kyubi/ Naruto(without the plot sheild).

I'm going with Nagato, he's just got a boat load of techniques that would be quite effective against Hashi. It would be hard to call though, an interesting battle to say the least. Hashi may be able to pull out with a victory though with all that wood xd

As we know Hashirama fought Madarra and won. and the Madarra he fought (the real one not tobi) has rinnegan and he had the 9 tails under his control. and Hashirama still won. So I think Hashirama could win this fairly easy. Nagato has some good attacks but Hashirama knows them and could and did conter them and win.

We don't know whether or not Madara had the Rinnegan when fighting against Hashi so you honestly can't use that in an arguement.

 

[Lankeysob]

As we know Hashirama fought Madarra and won. and the Madarra he fought (the real one not tobi) has rinnegan and he had the 9 tails under his control. and Hashirama still won. So I think Hashirama could win this fairly easy. Nagato has some good attacks but Hashirama knows them and could and did conter them and win.

Madara didn't have the rinnegan when he fought Hashirama..... He obtained it shortly before his death. So honestly I think Nagato has a pretty good shot at beating Hashirama.

 

[Lankeysob]

Madara didn't have the rinnegan when he fought Hashirama..... He obtained it shortly before his death. So honestly I think Nagato has a pretty good shot at beating Hashirama.

Think about it. madara was telling nagato what to do so he must have been stronger and as we know Hashirama beat madara. Even if its not the same Madara naruto and B are haveing a lot harder time trying to kill Madara. I would def say Hashirama, i mean Kabto even said theres no one on his level anymore. and no im not a Hashirama fanboy he was just really power full.

Also, he was listening to "Madara" because he gave him his eyes and apparently had a way to create the peace that Nagato sought, not because he was stronger. Now about what Kabuto said, well Nagato is sealed so he isn't around anymore and Kabuto still hasn't seen BM Naruto.

*sorry for double post*

 

[Ryuu..]

I come back to see that Hashirama fans have trolled the poll :|

I think alot of people are forgetting Nagato's levitational abilities:


Added to the fact alot of people are also underestimating Shinra Tensei and Chibaku Tensei :

 

[Rade]

Nagato's intent was to capture the Kyubii and attempt at not killing the host. He was trying to extract the kyubii from Naruto, not destroy the two. He was about to make a second Chibaku tensai, that would have been larger. He had enough power afterwards to bring all the people in the village their souls back. Ithink it is quite obvious that he could've defeated Kyubi/ Naruto(without the plot sheild).

I'm going with Nagato, he's just got a boat load of techniques that would be quite effective against Hashi. It would be hard to call though, an interesting battle to say the least. Hashi may be able to pull out with a victory though with all that wood xd



We don't know whether or not Madara had the Rinnegan when fighting against Hashi so you honestly can't use that in an arguement.

True but he said he awakened them shortly before his death. and it would make sense if he awakened them wile fighting the First. We don't know if he had them or not but it would be kind of stupid if he did't try to get them before or during the fight and the rinnegan comes after you master or understand the sharingan. But ether way Madara had the 9 tail, full power and EMS. Witch would be insanely hard to beat. We know that naruto in 8 tails broke out of hes Moon thing (sorry forgot what it was called) with raw strength. One more tail and EMS would have been to much to handel for him i think. and HE got beat by the first. And as many people believe Madara died when fighting the first but some how made a clone of him self with is tobi. So I guess we wont know yet but i really think the First could wipe the floor with him.

 

[Rikodu sennin]

Hashirama

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

Nagato wins with very high difficulty.

Hashirama's known techniques so far can all be countered for obvious reasons. The only main problem would be is Flower Tree World as Nagato may fall under its sleep, but then again Nagato has the ability to fly.

 

[Rade]

Also, he was listening to "Madara" because he gave him his eyes and apparently had a way to create the peace that Nagato sought, not because he was stronger. Now about what Kabuto said, well Nagato is sealed so he isn't around anymore and Kabuto still hasn't seen BM Naruto.

*sorry for double post*

Well were not even talking about naruto. I think Naruto could beat Nagato at full health but could't beat the first. This argument is kind of stupid cas we don't have that much prof cas the first is sealed but we know what he did. Like beat Madara With MS (prob EMS) and the 9 tails that was under his control. So I still say The First>Naruto>Madara>Nagato.

 

[Rovian]

Hashirama would win imo, he's just too powerful.. defeated Madara/Nine-tails both while no other Shinobi ever dared to fight Madara but him, he's just to powerful according to Kabuto.

 

[Rade]

Nagato wins with very high difficulty.

Hashirama's known techniques so far can all be countered for obvious reasons. The only main problem would be is Flower Tree World as Nagato may fall under its sleep, but then again Nagato has the ability to fly.

We don't know the first power fur shure yet. So he COULD be able to fly with like a summoning like sasuke. But i don't think that really makes the fight. I think The first could still win if he could't fly. If im missing something let me know tho.

 

[Rade]

Hashirama would win imo, he's just too powerful.. defeated Madara/Nine-tails both while no other Shinobi ever dared to fight Madara but him, he's just to powerful according to Kabuto.

Yup

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

We don't know the first power fur shure yet. So he COULD be able to fly with like a summoning like sasuke. But i don't think that really makes the fight. I think The first could still win if he could't fly. If im missing something let me know tho.

My point was that all of Hashirama's known abilities so far can be countered by Nagato, now if thats the case wouldnt that make Hashirama loose? While on the other hand Hashirama may not have counters to some of Nagato's abilities.

 

[Ryuu..]

Well were not even talking about naruto. I think Naruto could beat Nagato at full health but could't beat the first. This argument is kind of stupid cas we don't have that much prof cas the first is sealed but we know what he did. Like beat Madara With MS (prob EMS) and the 9 tails that was under his control. So I still say The First>Naruto>Madara>Nagato.

Please don't post stupidness like EMS Madara > Nagato or Naruto > Nagato.

You talk like Naruto's TBB or any ninjutsu of any form can harm Nagato when he has the preta path, which can absorb an infinite amount of chakra. You speak like Naruto can get near him when Nagato has Shinra Tensei. You forget Nagato can fly. You forget Nagato has all 5 elemental releases. You forget Naraka path and Human path which can take people's souls. You don't metion Gedo Mazo. As for EMS Madara > Healthy Nagato, that was so dumb I can't really counter it. Do you honestly believe that or are you trolling?

Rinnegan is the strongest KKG ever. Never forget that.

 

[squigles]

in the vid it shows the deflected tbb breaking through a giant stone wall and letting water from a lake into the valley

Again, you're basing this off what a VIDEO GAME THAT WAS NOT DESIGNED OR CREATED BY KISHIMOTO is telling you. If you can't understand why it's NOT canon, I don't know what to tell you.

 

[The Manga Critique]

We don't know the first power fur shure yet. So he COULD be able to fly with like a summoning like sasuke. But i don't think that really makes the fight. I think The first could still win if he could't fly. If im missing something let me know tho.

Want to learn how to spell? Seriously. It's annoying reading your post when you purposely misspell words. And if we don't know the first's powers for sure yet, why are you trying to argue for his win when you are basing your arguements on pure fantasization?

So he COULD be able to fly with like a summoning like sasuke

Yup

Stop double posting, you've done it your last eight posts. We're blowing through pages because of it. It's hard to keep up with an arguement when you take up half the page. I'm no moderator fan but they seem non-existant on this site.

 

[Rade]

Please don't post stupidness like EMS Madara > Nagato or Naruto > Nagato.

You talk like Naruto's TBB or any ninjutsu of any form can harm Nagato when he has the preta path, which can absorb an infinite amount of chakra. You speak like Naruto can get near him when Nagato has Shinra Tensei. You forget Nagato can fly. You forget Nagato has all 5 elemental releases. You forget Naraka path and Human path which can take people's souls. You don't metion Gedo Mazo. As for EMS Madara > Healthy Nagato, that was so dumb I can't really counter it. Do you honestly believe that or are you trolling?

Rinnegan is the strongest KKG ever. Never forget that.

ROFL no im not trolling, well we don't know what would happen if a healthy nagato and naruto fought but thats not really what THIS thread is about. (I was answering what someone else that said kabto has't seen naruto, thats why I was talking about him) Anyways you make it sound like Nagato is super OP, Witch hes not. Hashirama is.

Every jutsu has a weakness. Im sure Hashurama could find it as easy as itach did. Remember when Naruto did't know what to do with that (still don't know its same but the justou that made the moon) and Itach just told them to blast it down. so im sure they wont make a jutsu that can't be beat. that would be just dumb.

In conclusion , Like i told some one else we don't know enough about them. We all have our thoughts about it but its kind of pointless the way it stands now. Both Hashirama and Nagato are sealed so we won't know till someone talks more about them. But Kabto said that there was no one on Hashirama lelvel NOW. that might have ment cas Nagato was sealed or like not in 100 years. ya know when Hashirama and Madara fought.

 

[Rade]

Want to learn how to spell? Seriously. It's annoying reading your post when you purposely misspell words. And if we don't know the first's powers for sure yet, why are you trying to argue for his win when you are basing your arguements on pure fantasization?




Stop double posting, you've done it your last eight posts. We're blowing through pages because of it. It's hard to keep up with an arguement when you take up half the page. I'm no moderator fan but they seem non-existant on this site.

Oh sorry I did't Know i was. Im new to this. Do i just not like the Quote message in reply?