Knowledge does not need to increase states because Hashirama already has the states to dodge or counterattack. He indeed can react Madara and Hashirama alive where shown equal in CQC
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meaning they are evenly matched speed and skill wise when were talking about the physicals. Madara with Sage mode already reacted and dodge a Hiraishin blitz
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meaning Hashirama does the same making the Hiraishin blitz not a argument. He does not need to be jin Madara when as a sage mode user he countered a Hiraishin user from behind let alone head up you say Jin like Madara had any problem destroying Minato's little attack. His bushin was blitz by Mindless Juubito a bushin that did not have sage mode or was even at full power to began with because Alive Hashirama > Edo Hashirama so that point is null.
Mokuton has not shown to sink things but it can simple as a root coming up grabbing the kunai and pulling it back underground that basically sinking. Being all over the battlefield how Hashirama does not give them the time to set the kunai up all over tha battlefield and if so its moot because Wood forest covers the whole battlefield. Hashirama chakra is probably greater than all of they're combined him running out of chakra is a joke when he does not need Shinsuusenjutsu here at all, How is Minato picking up kunai when there pulled underground? furthermore the moment he tries to touch it wood spikes daggers him. Hashirama does not have Kage bushin to began with Hiraishin user can be dodged and attack as i already stated and debunked your claims above. The only way for them to dispatch of the wood clones is to destroy them completely as they can still fight and regenerate from most attacks. wood spikes smaller mokuton dragons and wood forest on levels like these
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would easily destroy they're bushin.
Tobirama being alive changes nothing considering he was dodged from the behind head up give him his full speed same thing happens. Tobirama tagging juubito means nothing when the same Tobirama failed to tag Madara Your making it a job to include the blitz that happen to a wood clone without sage already addressed that nonsense. No one is comparing dodging abilities and its obvious that they would be better considering they have ftg to dodge so your point does not refute my arguments at all. When could Naruto not react to Kurama? You do not need to be instant to fight a Hiraishin user Madara already proved this.
Using the anime on a canon fight is credible why because the manga is page by page while the anime is actual movement and its not like what i posted contradicted what happened in the manga anyways its just you gasping at straws. As you keep saying Tobirama was able to strike Juubito multiple times meaning he indeed has great striking feats better one then base Minato that's for sure and Madara arm fully still managed to out do him with his physical speed alone. Obito intangibility is based on his reaction 15 year old Obito reactions is not on par with Adult Obito's so that debunks your whole little argument and are we seriously comparing Base Minato to Jin Madara when concerning striking speed? even after sage mode Minato was utterly destroyed by the same Madara who Obito gave problems to.
Different cases Madara shot the Mokuton from Behind him meaning that the very mokuton did not come from the ground where the alliance and Naruto where standing and that is the only reason why those rasengan worked Mokuton comes from underneath shown when obito destroyed the mist ninja
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so the barrier formation is useless. cutting off the other half of my argument and did not think i would notice nice try but no.
Fire cannot chose what to burn so your logic makes 0 sense Madara knew the katon would spread the polly meaning he tried this before he seen the katon only made it worse same goes for Hiruzen katon is useless. Furthermore the wood forest drags the kages under none of them can fly and flight was the only reason the gokage did not get destroyed upon the emergence of the wood forest [
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]. Giving the height of the flower tree world is atleast
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of wood coming up from the ground the kages are destroy upon activation. Lighting is not cutting through all that mokuton not even close, Water to wash the surface area what does that even mean? How do they reach the flowers when they're buried under all that mokuton.
Are we honestly comparing the Shinsuusenjutsu used by Yamaoto/zetsu who Mokuton is not even close to the same tier as Base Hashirama let alone Sage mode Hashirama this post is sig worthy. SM Mokujin can hold of Perfect susanoo close range and is the same size as Perfect susanoo which dwarfs that mini me of a shinsuusenjutsu my argument still hold up very firmly aswell. You did not even try to counter Mokujin using wood spikes.
No they will not Minato dodging all day is never happening when Hashirama has attack to bypass his ftg aoe and overwhelm them with he has larger chakra reserves then anyone so if they attempt to play this outlasting game the lose there aswell.
Over all you did not address alot of my argument concerning Giant hotei hands smashing them and Hotei gates aswell as Mokujin using spikes the kages are raped Hashirama wins this low diff.
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