Hashirama Vs Madara and Minato SM

[Uverdore9]

Location Edo madara vs SA.

Distance; 54 meters.

Version : Edo madara without limbo and SM Edo Minato and SM Edo Hashirama.

 

[BlazingGig]

Which version of Madara?? can he use the ninetails??

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

If it's edo or rinnegan madara then he stomps. If Ems Madara then I don't know if Sm Minato has enough chakra to use create a barrier to suck in Artifacts of a Buddha to another location(doubt it in imo).

Assuming that Ems Madara has the kyubi summoning contract, add Sm Minato to the battle against Hashirama and Hashirama would still lose against team. At VoTe he pushed Hashirama to the end until he feel on his knee with no more chakra left, if Minato was in that scenario he would just wait until its down and then take out hashirama in the end leaving him the only one standing.

 

[Uverdore9]

If it's edo or rinnegan madara then he stomps. If Ems Madara then I don't know if Sm Minato has enough chakra to use create a barrier to suck in Artifacts of a Buddha to another location(doubt it in imo).

Assuming that Ems Madara has the kyubi summoning contract, add Sm Minato to the battle against Hashirama and Hashirama would still lose against team. At VoTe he pushed Hashirama to the end until he feel on his knee with no more chakra left, if Minato was in that scenario he would just wait until its down and then take out hashirama in the end leaving him the only one standing.

Cant Hashirama restrain the Kyuubi with Mokuryu and restrain Madara with Wood Hands and restrain Minato with Flower Tree World and Emergence of Trees?

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

Which Madara....

 

[WarriorlWithin]

Madara was equal to Hashirama with Kyuubi summoning , so adding Minato on Madara's side would surely be a lost for Hashirama

 

[BenjerminGaye]

anything other than juubi jin madara loses. Sm minato doesn't change that

 

[WarriorlWithin]

anything other than juubi jin madara loses. Sm minato doesn't change that

Rinnegan Madara loses to Hashirama?

 

[DHOH]

Edo Madara and higher wins

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Rinnegan Madara loses to Hashirama?

ok he wins too. Forgot about that brief stunt he did against the 9 beasts

 

[Itachi 4 life]

Edo Madara and higher wins

Hashi beat him stalemated in canon tho .
OT goes exactly the same as it did in the manga, Minato changes literally nothing.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Cant Hashirama restrain the Kyuubi with Mokuryu and restrain Madara with Wood Hands and restrain Minato with Flower Tree World and Emergence of Trees?

If that didn’t work at VoTe, then why would it work now with Minato on Madara’s side?

 

[Uverdore9]

If that didn’t work at VoTe, then why would it work now with Minato on Madara’s side?

Well we dont know what happened off panel. Wood hand caught Susanooo conjured with Kyuubi sword effortless in air with Wood hand palm. Same Susanoo sword which cutted three mountain effortless. It would work through logic.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Well we dont know what happened off panel. Wood hand caught Susanooo conjured with Kyuubi sword effortless in air with Wood hand palm. Same Susanoo sword which cutted three mountain effortless. It would work through logic.

It was madara’s magic garb Susano’o sword that bisected Hashirama’s laughing buddha (wood hand palm) in the first place, so I don’t know why you brought that up.

 

[Uverdore9]

It was madara’s magic garb Susano’o sword that bisected Hashirama’s laughing buddha (wood hand palm) in the first place, so I don’t know why you brought that up.

Because it still caught it in mid air. Such a interval is enough for Hashirama to create Tree emergence which was fast to grow into tremendous height before Hiruzen could finish a jump. Or Hashirama use Flower tree World which drain Minato and steal Minato willpower if not complete put Minato to sleep. Or a Golem which caught 100% Kurama bijuu Dama fused with Susanoo which is fast than Naruto Bijuu dama to catch Minato when the place is covered with tree where Hashirama can interchange between the tree and catch Minato off guard which would force Minato to run toward a Golem direction and mark it with FTG which would allow Golem to catch Minato in hand. A array of tree would block Bijuu dama because Earth shinobi wall could block Juubi tbb to some degree if Hashirama cant block Susanooo Bijuu dama complete with a Golem alone.

 

[Guntah]

Rinnegan Edo Madara seemed equal to Edo SM Hashirama, so I think Minato would be the key difference here. The team wins.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Because it still caught it in mid air. Such a interval is enough for Hashirama to create Tree emergence which was fast to grow into tremendous height before Hiruzen could finish a jump. Or Hashirama use Flower tree World which drain Minato and steal Minato willpower if not complete put Minato to sleep. Or a Golem which caught 100% Kurama bijuu Dama fused with Susanoo which is fast than Naruto Bijuu dama to catch Minato when the place is covered with tree where Hashirama can interchange between the tree and catch Minato off guard which would force Minato to run toward a Golem direction and mark it with FTG which would allow Golem to catch Minato in hand. A array of tree would block Bijuu dama because Earth shinobi wall could block Juubi tbb to some degree if Hashirama cant block Susanooo Bijuu dama complete with a Golem alone.

Hashirama caught the first magic garb sword while the second one completely bisected all of the arms including mountain peaks.So there is no interval change for Hashirama to weave another seal for Emergency Forest.
Not sure why you’re trying to argue a scenario that’s already happened in the manga. Hashirama without any help from another shinobi was able to completely wipe out Forest bloom, wood Golem, laughing buddha, wood dragon, and veritable 1000 armed kan’on with his magic garb Susano’o and a controlled Kurama during the battle.
It ended in a completed deadlock with both user with 0% chakra left and Hashirama beat Madara with a last second wood style doppelgänger front to strike Madara from behind.
Add Minato there and he can just wait until they finish before killing a fatigued near death Hashirama with one blow.

I don’t know why you keep coming up with these fanfic scenario’s about fused and merged Susao’o, it’s wrong. Susano’o is not inside of kurama’s body it’s protecting the outside.

If you keep saying that susano’o is merged/fused with Kurama again then I’m just going to ignore you. It’s annoying.

 

[Uverdore9]

Hashirama caught the first magic garb sword while the second one completely bisected all of the arms including mountain peaks.So there is no interval change for Hashirama to weave another seal for Emergency Forest.
Not sure why you’re trying to argue a scenario that’s already happened in the manga. Hashirama without any help from another shinobi was able to completely wipe out Forest bloom, wood Golem, laughing buddha, wood dragon, and veritable 1000 armed kan’on with his magic garb Susano’o and a controlled Kurama during the battle.
It ended in a completed deadlock with both user with 0% chakra left and Hashirama beat Madara with a last second wood style doppelgänger front to strike Madara from behind.
Add Minato there and he can just wait until they finish before killing a fatigued near death Hashirama with one blow.

I don’t know why you keep coming up with these fanfic scenario’s about fused and merged Susao’o, it’s wrong. Susano’o is not inside of kurama’s body it’s protecting the outside.

If you keep saying that susano’o is merged/fused with Kurama again then I’m just going to ignore you. It’s annoying.

No fact is fact. Susanoo has a armor which is the one protected Kyuubi. Susanoo inside body is the real body which is protected by armor which armor is what we call Magic garb. Since Kyuubi was inside the armor and Madara cant seperate Susanooo armor from Susanoo main body Madara had only one choice and that choice which Madara made was merge Kurama with Susanoo while protecting Kurama in the outside with Susanoo armor. This is undeniable fact. Even a Databook entry complete differentiate between Magic garb and Main Susanoo. Which made Madara Susanoo powerful as Jubi. I checked what the claim was about Madara not possessing Perfect Susanoo back when Madara fought Hashirama. Which I found out to be incorrect.


- Madara Garb Susanoo had same effect: Cutted mountain, all 3-4 at same time. So Madara Magic garb Susanooo was Madara Perfect Susanoo.


- The reason Madara claim Perfect Susanoo was use only once is because Madara imagined the current situation which was Perfect Susanoo alone. Madara use a fused Perfect Susanoo with Kyuubi protected by Magic garb in Vote. This is the first time Madara used Perfect Susanoo by itself.

- Since this Madara dont have a Kyuubi to infuse Perfect Susanoo with Madara cant deal same damage which happened in Vote this time. Which mean Golem/Wood hand cannot and will not be slice by Madara.

- Minato can be oppress by Hashirama Flower tree world and a Hashirama clone using all of Hashirama technique at Minato.

- Hashirama can conjure from the tree around Minato and grab him with a Wood technique and immobile him. Minato TBB is much weaker than Naruto so is stopped by Hashirama Golem and Mokuryu.

- Hashirama wood Hand could catch Minato foot underground and dip Minato into underground.

 

[Mellanoma]

People forget Edo Hashirama was Weaker as an Edo when he fought Madara.

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Edo Madara was stronger as an Edo

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The fact that Edo Hashirama who was weaker stalemated Edo Madara who was stronger shows you just how strong Hashi would be without him being in edo form.



Minato is a non factor in this battle. He can't even detect which hashirama is the real one and Flower Tree world one shots him.

 

[Oblivionx]

Team wins for sure. Edo madara can alone beat hashirama. He has everything that hashirama has and more. And btw meteor crushes SS.