Hashirama vs five healthy Nagatos

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5 nagato's hmm. I think I might go with nagato on this one. The power of a jointly executed CT is enough to seal Shinsuusenju. Don't think hashirama can pull that out twice.

Nagato has numerous summons(5 of everything) to handle mokujin. Access to gedo statue(so 5 of those too). If one nagato dies , another can bring him back many times over. Each has access to all the paths.

Nah. A bit to much for hashirama here.
 

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Sorry, been away for a while from here, and I'm sure there must be something obvious that I'm missing, but how can Hashirama win this if Nagato is unrestricted? Pretty much every jutsu he can come up with, even senjutsu, will be absorbed by one of the Nagatos without side effects (as already happened with Jiraiya's senjutsu, twice), and even if by any chance one of them gets killed somehow, one of the others can resurrect him with the Naraka Path.

In the most absurd scenario, I'm thinking a Banshou Ten'in coupled with the Human Path and that's it. It's not like the bodies of Pain which can only use one of the paths, it's 5 times the versatility of the Rinnegan, which honestly it's a bit too much for a lot of people.
 

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Sorry, been away for a while from here, and I'm sure there must be something obvious that I'm missing, but how can Hashirama win this if Nagato is unrestricted? Pretty much every jutsu he can come up with, even senjutsu, will be absorbed by one of the Nagatos without side effects (as already happened with Jiraiya's senjutsu, twice), and even if by any chance one of them gets killed somehow, one of the others can resurrect him with the Naraka Path.

In the most absurd scenario, I'm thinking a Banshou Ten'in coupled with the Human Path and that's it. It's not like the bodies of Pain which can only use one of the paths, it's 5 times the versatility of the Rinnegan, which honestly it's a bit too much for a lot of people.
It's too much for hagoromo and kaguya lmao.
 

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That is overestimating nagato way too much. I was thinking, two would be a match but one gets trashed.
Shinseisenju works on chakra fuel. Nagato absorbed eight tails chakra in seconds, would shinsuusenju or wood soul jutsu even survive a minute before nagato before being chakra immobilized? I'm just basing this off pure facts not including a shred of portrayal. Create a chibaku tensei triple the size of the one created by an unhealthy nagato then use BT to pull hashi towards him and direct the chibaku orb on his body by taking advantage of the force gravity. Nagato clearly wins here.
 

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Shinseisenju works on chakra fuel. Nagato absorbed eight tails chakra in seconds, would shinsuusenju or wood soul jutsu even survive a minute before nagato before being chakra immobilized? I'm just basing this off pure facts not including a shred of portrayal. Create a chibaku tensei triple the size of the one created by an unhealthy nagato then use BT to pull hashi towards him and direct the chibaku orb on his body by taking advantage of the force gravity. Nagato clearly wins here.
Wood release or magnet release of gaara are immune to chakra absorption. It may as well be that KKG are immune but am not sure about that. Madara couldn't absorb chakra from either of these attacks so nagato can't absorb it either. As for creating triple sized CT, if he could he would have done so in cannon and nagato doesn't have feats of using any other jutsu while using CT. He was shown to need focus for CT to work.
 

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Wood release or magnet release of gaara are immune to chakra absorption. It may as well be that KKG are immune but am not sure about that. Madara couldn't absorb chakra from either of these attacks so nagato can't absorb it either. As for creating triple sized CT, if he could he would have done so in cannon and nagato doesn't have feats of using any other jutsu while using CT. He was shown to need focus for CT to work.
They are not, since even Jinton was absorbed. Also solid / physical jutsus (like Jiraya's Senpou Goemon) were absorbed as well. As far as it has been shown on the series, every kind of ninjutsu can be absorbed by preta, be it regular, Senjutsu, KKG, KKT, etc.
 

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They are not, since even Jinton was absorbed. Also solid / physical jutsus (like Jiraya's Senpou Goemon) were absorbed as well. As far as it has been shown on the series, every kind of ninjutsu can be absorbed by preta, be it regular, Senjutsu, KKG, KKT, etc.
But during the 5 kage vs madara it was said that madara can't absorb gaara's jutsu. Well in any case i was under that impression but if nagato or madara can absorb these jutsus then they become very formidable. How was hashirama able to contest madara at all then.
 

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Wood release or magnet release of gaara are immune to chakra absorption. It may as well be that KKG are immune but am not sure about that. Madara couldn't absorb chakra from either of these attacks so nagato can't absorb it either. As for creating triple sized CT, if he could he would have done so in cannon and nagato doesn't have feats of using any other jutsu while using CT. He was shown to need focus for CT to work.
I have to admit, its been implied in the series that kkg dont get absorbed, but theres also the thing that madara do not use gakido since he doesn't say the name. Chibaku tensei of an unhealthy nagato was capable of trapping the entire nine tails. Healthy nagato could easily perform a triple big version od CT. He was at his deathbed in that fight. Seeing he was all bones and skin like ribcage susanoo.

They are not, since even Jinton was absorbed. Also solid / physical jutsus (like Jiraya's Senpou Goemon) were absorbed as well. As far as it has been shown on the series, every kind of ninjutsu can be absorbed by preta, be it regular, Senjutsu, KKG, KKT, etc.
Senpou goemon is made of senjutsu chakra it is not physical in the sense, a physical attack.
 

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But during the 5 kage vs madara it was said that madara can't absorb gaara's jutsu. Well in any case i was under that impression but if nagato or madara can absorb these jutsus then they become very formidable. How was hashirama able to contest madara at all then.
Really? I don't remember anyone, specially Madara, saying that Madara cannot absorb Gaara's sand / magnet / gold etc. Do you have any scans? Perhaps you're confused when Oonoki made the sand lighter and that he could attack Madara from under Susanoo or something.

Cause Preta is from Rinnegan, and when they fought at the VotE he was using EMS, so he couldn't absorb anything even if he wanted.
 

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I have to admit, its been implied in the series that kkg dont get absorbed, but theres also the thing that madara do not use gakido since he doesn't say the name. Chibaku tensei of an unhealthy nagato was capable of trapping the entire nine tails. Healthy nagato could easily perform a triple big version od CT. He was at his deathbed in that fight. Seeing he was all bones and skin like ribcage susanoo.



Senpou goemon is made of senjutsu chakra it is not physical in the sense, a physical attack.
I meant physical in the way we understand it, as something that can be touched or seen or whatever, in contrast with Jinton, which is just light / particles. Rinnegan was shown to absorb both.
 

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I meant physical in the way we understand it, as something that can be touched or seen or whatever, in contrast with Jinton, which is just light / particles. Rinnegan was shown to absorb both.
Preta path is not rinnegan jutsu. It is nagato's jutsu. Databook says this clearly. Rinnegan absorption has limits, madara said "too much energy" after absorbing one FRS, which implies a limit unlike PP.
 
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