Hashirama vs EMS Sasuke and Nagato

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Base Hashirama vs EMS Sasuke and Nagato

Starting Distance: 45m
Location: VOTE
Intel: Full
Intent: To Kill
Mindset: IC
Restrictions: SM for Hashirama

Scenario 2: Hashirama can use SM, but no SS

Who wins?
 

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Sasuke and Nagato win scenario one with mid-high difficulty. Hashirama mid diffs scenario two.

Sasuke can take on base Mokujin for a bit with his PS which is capable of slicing large shinjuu roots. Mokujin's limbs can get bisected although I see Hashirama catching Sasuke's blade much like he caught Madara's, but Nagato could destroy a limb from Mokujin via a powerful enough ST allowing Sasuke to be freed and then continue on the fight.

SM Mokujin was fighting on par with Madara's PS which is far larger than Sasuke's hence far stronger as well. Hashirama overpowers EMS Sasuke rather easily and Nagato being even weaker isn't going to change the outcome too much.
 

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Scenario 2 is a mid diff win, around the lower end of mid diff. S1:

Mokujin=Full Kurama>>Half Kurama=Sasuke's PS in physical power. Hashirama has already shown that he can catch the blade of a far stronger EMS user with a far stronger Susanoo. Whether it be via Hotei or Mokujin. Mokujin would straight up bully him in close combat. Chibaku Tensei is useless as Mokujin would plow through it, and Hashirama would use Mokuton, whether it be Hobi or Mokujin, to tank CST if it's used. Throw in clones that can replicate most of his jutsu aside from Mokujin and the fact that Nagato needs CST to deal with small village scaled Mokuton spam (Jukai Kotan, Kajukai Korin, and there's also the Full Kurama Sized Hotei hands that were about to physically restrain PS Kurama at VoTE) and Hashirama kills them both.
 

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Sasuke and Nagato win scenario one with mid-high difficulty. Hashirama mid diffs scenario two.

Sasuke can take on base Mokujin for a bit with his PS which is capable of slicing large shinjuu roots. Mokujin's limbs can get bisected although I see Hashirama catching Sasuke's blade much like he caught Madara's, but Nagato could destroy a limb from Mokujin via a powerful enough ST allowing Sasuke to be freed and then continue on the fight.
How is sasuke cutting mokujin limbs when its physically on par with full kurama? since that puts it at a level where PS slashes can get tanked rather easily.
and even if nagato tries to break hashiramas restrain attempts, what good is that gonna do when hashirama can and will do it right after, only difference being that nagato is on a big cool down and practically useless for a good load of time because he needs some of his strongest STs to be able to do this


SM Mokujin was fighting on par with Madara's PS which is far larger than Sasuke's hence far stronger as well. Hashirama overpowers EMS Sasuke rather easily and Nagato being even weaker isn't going to change the outcome too much.
i agree with this
 

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Scenario 2 is a mid diff win, around the lower end of mid diff. S1:

Mokujin=Full Kurama>>Half Kurama=Sasuke's PS in physical power. Hashirama has already shown that he can catch the blade of a far stronger EMS user with a far stronger Susanoo. Whether it be via Hotei or Mokujin. Mokujin would straight up bully him in close combat. Chibaku Tensei is useless as Mokujin would plow through it, and Hashirama would use Mokuton, whether it be Hobi or Mokujin, to tank CST if it's used. Throw in clones that can replicate most of his jutsu aside from Mokujin and the fact that Nagato needs CST to deal with small village scaled Mokuton spam (Jukai Kotan, Kajukai Korin, and there's also the Full Kurama Sized Hotei hands that were about to physically restrain PS Kurama at VoTE) and Hashirama kills them both.
Nagato can stay on or inside Sasuke's PS if he doesn't have access to Deva's abilities. While Mokujin would mid diff Sasuke's PS, wouldn't Nagato's CST do some damage to it allowing Sasuke to fight on par with it? Although I'm not sure how durable Mokujin is but I'm pretty sure it's durability is around Sasuke's PS but it has far less durability per unit area.
How is sasuke cutting mokujin limbs when its physically on par with full kurama? since that puts it at a level where PS slashes can get tanked rather easily.
and even if nagato tries to break hashiramas restrain attempts, what good is that gonna do when hashirama can and will do it right after, only difference being that nagato is on a big cool down and practically useless for a good load of time because he needs some of his strongest STs to be able to do this
Mokujin's arms being physically very strong doesn't mean they are durable enough to withstand Sasuke's slashes. Tsunade's limbs are physically very strong but Hebi Sasuke can cut them off with a chidori katana.

It's not like Hashirama can continuously intercept Sasuke and restrain his susanoo. Sasuke can also go on the defensive and utilise the flight ability of his susanoo to keep backwards while Nagato recovers. Once Nagato recovers, they both go on the offensive.
 

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Nagato can stay on or inside Sasuke's PS if he doesn't have access to Deva's abilities. While Mokujin would mid diff Sasuke's PS, wouldn't Nagato's CST do some damage to it allowing Sasuke to fight on par with it? Although I'm not sure how durable Mokujin is but I'm pretty sure it's durability is around Sasuke's PS but it has far less durability per unit area.
Would CST do some damage? Yeah. Would it allow Sasuke to fight on par? Nope. Even if damage was done, Hashirama can easily create another one. Then there's the fact that even the Hotei Hands have enough physical power to restrain his Susanoo while Mokujin slaps it around.
 

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People crazy always bringing SM Mokujin feats into play, He's not catching Sasuke's blade to fast his sword play is well above Madara's Sasuke susanoo mimics his speed but on a larger tier SM Madara was not capable of catching his blade Mokujin (Base) Definitely is not catching a PS Blade the shattered the Nonuboku dna blade.

Then add enton spikes which he can make on his enton blade Mokujin is sliced up full scale shira tensei aimed at Mokujin head blows Hashirama away Hobei hands cut clean through way to big to grab a sword.

Sasuke could solo the first round but its not surprising seeing what im seeing considering these the same people try to say that Zetsu buddah could beat down a Standing v4 when its arm was smacked apart by Base Ei

They lose the second
 
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