Hashirama, SO6P, and Hiruzen GODS of the shinobi world.

[KingHashirama]

BEFORE YOU GUYS MAKE COMMENTS AND START CALLING ME A FANBOY, ATLEAST KNOW THAT I'M NOT CALLING HASHIRAMA STRONGER THEN SO6P, due to the Juubi.

See all these 3 are actually God of shinobi , and here is why:

Hiruzen: this man had no special kkg or anything like that. (Sarutobi people do have kinda high chakra). But still, this man represents the peak of non-senju and non-Uchiha shinobis in the manga. So, I have no doubts that this man was hailed as the God Of shinobi. Even if he wasn't on the same level as SO6P and Hashirama.


SO6P and Hashirama:

These 2 are kind of I guess counterparts? What I mean is this :

Hashirama = Mokuton + senju chakra

(excluding the Juubi, I shall explain why)) SO6P = Rinnegan + senju chakra


I excluded the Juubi from the SO6P, because I'm just talking about the person's chakra.. because both of them had tailed beasts under their controls. But only one of them chose to become the Jinchuriki for one.

But as far as the whole deal about the "moon " goes.. that happened due to the enormous chakra the SO6P already had from the Tailed beasts.

But other wise, Rinnegan I guess is a superior KKG in a way, but then It can be taken on by a natural born Mokuton user. And then you have the whole thing about Hashirama trained to fight and etc. And having more newer jutsus.

I see them as Counterparts to each other.

Without the Juubi, I believe both the Sage and Hashirama would be near equals. One having superior jutsus and other having superior fighting skills.



So what do you guys think?

 

[Twin Steps]

Hashirama is lower than shot compared to the SO6P, but the rest i agree

 

[Guardian of the Rain]

Agreed. Though it sounds like Hiruzen's father, Sasuke Sarutobi, was more badass and the greatest Sarutobi ever. Well, that's irrelevant though.

 

[NarutoSageUzumaki]

Unless we know how strong the so6p is we can only base our prediction on the So6p is the creator of everything


And i doubt that the so6p w/o the juubi is = Rinnengan ,

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you remember my theory right , so lets see

 

[Kages]

Interesting thread :y I sorta agree O_O

 

[EPICMenma]

Most People argued between Hashirama and Hirzuren who is god shinobi.
I chose Hiruzen is God shinobi of Konoha beacuse he is longest Hokage in Konoha.
Hashirama is God Shinobi of 5 nations.
Sage of the six Paths is god Shinobi of world.
Problem Solved.

 

[Kages]

Most People argued between Hashirama and Hirzuren who is god shinobi.
I chose Hiruzen is God shinobi of Konoha beacuse he is longest Hokage in Konoha.
Hashirama is God Shinobi of 5 nations.
Sage of the six Paths is god Shinobi of world.
Problem Solved.

Hiruzen lived longer than Hashirama

Edit- Never mind, I saw that was Hiruzen, sorry. Still disagree though

 

[SilverSlick]

You're kinda overrating Hashirama. Nagato and Obito>Hashirama. Dat Kamui and CT.

 

[ballerjordan]

SO6P's younger son could beat Hashirama

 

[Wockeezz4Life]

you might wanna think through ur theory we know only little bout SO6Ps so tht is sort of a dissadvantage wen u try to compare or disscuss bout his skill level to others but still u never know.

 

[KingHashirama]

Why do I keep confusing you with HashiramaDescendant?

Either way, I think you mustn't make such hasty assumptions about the SO6P. We barely know anything about his entire skill-set.

We haven't seen Hashirama's either. So both are basically assumptions mate.

Hashirama is lower than shot compared to the SO6P, but the rest i agree

why do you believe this?

Agreed. Though it sounds like Hiruzen's father, Sasuke Sarutobi, was more badass and the greatest Sarutobi ever. Well, that's irrelevant though.

Oh dude, It would be raw, if he was like the 4th or 5th strongest of Hashi's time.

Unless we know how strong the so6p is we can only base our prediction on the So6p is the creator of everything


And i doubt that the so6p w/o the juubi is = Rinnengan ,

You must be registered for see links

you remember my theory right , so lets see

But I'm going by the manga, and till thats proven wrong, you already know Senju + UChiha = rinnegan.
He is one to define chakra, doesn't mean hes the creator of everything. Especially not Mokuton.. or Jinton or other KKG.

Interesting thread :y I sorta agree O_O

I praise Hiruzen for something, and you only "Sorta agree" >.> how rude mate.

You're kinda overrating Hashirama. Nagato and Obito>Hashirama. Dat Kamui and CT.

According to the statement made about Hashirama's strength to the living people during the war.. which would include Nagato and Obito.. both are inferior to Hashirama.

Also, Just with Tree world , he can over power Chibaku tensei.. lol. And Kamui is a easy counter now. Subsitution jutsu MAUAHAH

 

[EPICMenma]

Hiruzen lived longer than Hashirama

Edit- Never mind, I saw that was Hiruzen, sorry. Still disagree though

That's your opinion. i aint gonna argue with u.

 

[Zenic]

BEFORE YOU GUYS MAKE COMMENTS AND START CALLING ME A FANBOY, ATLEAST KNOW THAT I'M NOT CALLING HASHIRAMA STRONGER THEN SO6P, due to the Juubi.

See all these 3 are actually God of shinobi , and here is why:

Hiruzen: this man had no special kkg or anything like that. (Sarutobi people do have kinda high chakra). But still, this man represents the peak of non-senju and non-Uchiha shinobis in the manga. So, I have no doubts that this man was hailed as the God Of shinobi. Even if he wasn't on the same level as SO6P and Hashirama.


SO6P and Hashirama:

These 2 are kind of I guess counterparts? What I mean is this :

Hashirama = Mokuton + senju chakra

(excluding the Juubi, I shall explain why)) SO6P = Rinnegan + senju chakra


I excluded the Juubi from the SO6P, because I'm just talking about the person's chakra.. because both of them had tailed beasts under their controls. But only one of them chose to become the Jinchuriki for one.

But as far as the whole deal about the "moon " goes.. that happened due to the enormous chakra the SO6P already had from the Tailed beasts.

But other wise, Rinnegan I guess is a superior KKG in a way, but then It can be taken on by a natural born Mokuton user. And then you have the whole thing about Hashirama trained to fight and etc. And having more newer jutsus.

I see them as Counterparts to each other.

Without the Juubi, I believe both the Sage and Hashirama would be near equals. One having superior jutsus and other having superior fighting skills.



So what do you guys think?

Hiruzen doesn't deserve the title. Nagato>Hiruzen any day.

 

[KamuiShiryu]

hmmmmm....... i think the strongest is s06p and i can see hashirama = hiruzen even though i still think hiruzen is the stronger then the two but it can go either way

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

this sums it all up. add uchiha madara there and you have the top 4 strongest shinobi's of all time (gods in the way of the ninja) of course not including the so6p's sons.

- SO6P (the origin, a GOD).

- Hashirama (top senju shinobi).

- Uchiha Madara (top uchiha shinobi).

- Hiruzen (top non uchiha, senju shinobi) (a genius who learned, understood and preformed jutsu on a master class level).

i salute you for making this my friend.

 

[Kages]

That's your opinion. i aint gonna argue with u.

I never even said my opinion, I just said I disagree. They are all God of Shinobi of the world

@KingHashirama-

 

[Joon]

Chakra is not something that can be compared as if genetic like a Kekkie Genkai. Senju is not a chakra. It is a house name. Mokuton is a Kekkei Genkai only known to Hashirama. As of now, evidence says Hashirama is God of Shinobi. The Juubi is the creator of all. The Sage suppress the Juubi and so on and so on. The Rinnegan is created by combining the DNA of both the Hashirama and pure blood Uchiha. Therefore, Hasirama comparison to the Sage as a counterpart is unlikely. Only thing the share is a tittle.

 

[Kages]

Hiruzen doesn't deserve the title. Nagato>Hiruzen any day.

Are you mad that he got it? Too bad, you won't change anyone's minds, Kishi thought he deserved it and Kishi's opinion> Your's

:rofl:

 

[SoulKiller]

Plz don't compare the first hokage and 3rd hokage to the So6p there both fodders compared to the so6p

 

[Transcendence]

Most People argued between Hashirama and Hirzuren who is god shinobi.
I chose Hiruzen is God shinobi of Konoha beacuse he is longest Hokage in Konoha.
Hashirama is God Shinobi of 5 nations.
Sage of the six Paths is god Shinobi of world.
Problem Solved.

This makes absolutely no sense. Hashirama being God Shinobi of the 5 nations means he inherently usurps Hiruzen as God of Konoha and Hashirama is overtaken by the S06P because World > 5 nations.