Team 2.
Hashirama vs Tobirama are quite almost equal, probably Hashi wins it by just a very little amount. Then you add Minato to Tobirama, I could see it as overkill. 2 is better than 1 though but not always.
First of all Even in Naruto wikia it proves you wrong unless you did not see the (anime only) next to bringer of darkness. Now you are just making yourself look dumb by trying to use that.
The anime is non-cannon and not official.
The manga only shows Hashirama doing it and if you base your stuff off the manga then I do not even need argue with you considering you do not actually use the source material.
Naruto wikia and the anime are not considered official on the base by anyone who is actually intelligent.
And I literally discredited USSJ statements he was trolling just like you are.
HAHAHAHA! your such a newbie it makes me hurt laughing, I feel like I'm talking to a child. Your terrible at debating and need to stop trolling.
Apparnelty you didnt see the (Manga only) on Hashirama Narutowiki now did you so whats your point they both STILL have it. your the only dumb one And what did I say in my last post/First post? POST PROOF
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"The anime is non-cannon and not official." No its not the Anime is a motion picture manga thats all it is. They take Kishi's manga and turn them into Animes. What they show in the Anime is just as legit as it is in the manga.
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"The manga only shows Hashirama doing it and if you base your stuff off the manga then I do not even need argue with you considering you do not actually use the source material."
There are countless sources available to prove any topic relating to naruto no matter what side it is.
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"Naruto wikia and the anime are not considered official on the base by anyone who is actually intelligent."
The wiki I can understand because anyone can change anything on Wiki but you cant change Anime. Once its done its done there's no changing it so my last statement on the Anime still over rules your opinion.
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"And I literally discredited USSJ statements he was trolling just like you are."
USSJ Statements were correct and valid. So far the only troller on this thread is you. You Have YET to PROVE one thing correct in your statements.
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"First of all. You guys dont tell me how they would win but just that they would.
Second is that Hashirama was better than Tobirama. And we do not know the edo's we just know that they were probably not fodder, none the less they are no match and can be restricted by mokuton.
The sword of thunder is non-canon but even if it was there it is not going to help him all that much.
Tobirama was a better water user than kisame.
And I already explained how the s/t is useless all they could do is use it for transportation, and Hashirama can counter that because they have to use seals and seals can be moved and absorbed by him.
Hashirama is just a bad match up for the two."-narutownsyouall Page 5, (Hashirama Senju vs Tobirama Senju and Minato Namikaze) Thread
"HAHAHAHA! your such a newbie it makes me hurt laughing, I feel like I'm talking to a child. Your terrible at debating and need to stop trolling."
I'm Older than Naruto itself and remember watching it air the first time on TV so no I am no newbie to Naruto, If it makes you hurt laughing there is medicare care for that. I am older than 18 (adult) so no I am no child either. (Personal info so none shall be posted here) Like I said before I'm was head of the Debate team so no I'm not terrible at debating. (again personal info) I'm Not trolling I asked a simple question that YOU took way over board by providing false information/No Proof/didn't do your research. Your the troller not me or anyone else here who gave their Opinion as well as you but you took it too far and wanted to start a war over it and those other people who still post here even provided FACTS and PROVED their claims while you still have YET to do so yourself. So like I said in my first post
IF YOU CANT PROVE IT THEN DONT BOTHER POSTING.
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This thread was originally for peoples opinion's and to have a fun vs thread made but you made it into a war thread on who shall win (I admit I shouldnt have carried it on as long as it did either). Hashi will win no Tobi and Minato. No Hashi. I'm sick of this fighting. Countless of people here posted on this thread also giving their opinion which EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT TO HAVE so why must you insist on carrying out this pointless and idiotic fight to try to prove your point that goes against everyone's opinion when in fact you cant even do it yourself because you havnt provided any PROOF at all? :flaw:
All of your points are flawed and no proof to back them up so until you do research and actually prove what you are trying to say then DO NOT POST.
I'm sorry that your not getting your way but if you insist on doing this then I have no other choice but to add these rules to my thread and to enforce them and IF needed to get a admin to just shut this thread down all together *still thinking about it* If you keep up this pointless argument I will shut down this thread and Report you again (after this post and reading this post) for Spamming and Trolling. I'm done fighting over this when clearly you cannot provide any proof. I love debates and I love having debates with people and have fun but this is getting way out of hand. Sorry for carrying it on this long myself but it happens.
Team 2.
Hashirama vs Tobirama are quite almost equal, probably Hashi wins it by just a very little amount. Then you add Minato to Tobirama, I could see it as overkill. 2 is better than 1 though but not always.
have you seen the size of his knife? he would slice any trees that come his way. and minato should have the other two giant toads as well. food cart destroyer held down 100% kyuubi long enough for minato to teleport him.
Hashirama could summon a forest in an instant Madara summoned the flower world in an instant.
that makes no sense. even mei will be burnt by her acid mist along with her allies if she didnt change the PH of it. how can hashirama stop his pollen if tobiramas water dragon bullet is blowing it towards him?
Hiruzen was better than Minato and He couldn't kai realease Bringer of darkness.
minato stil has raw speed (shown when he rescued naruto from tobi), s/t barrier (warps anything that comes near minato) and physical teleporting (warping kyuubi away from the vilage after gamabunta held him down). how does minato get trapped?
wrong. senju means clan of a thousand skills. senjus were jacks of all trades and hashirama united several clans under his senju banner. which is probably how akimichis and aburames came to be in konoha.
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"The Senju clan gained their fame in the era before the founding of the hidden villages. Where other clans focused on mastering one particular skill, the Senju were masters in all skills, from ninjutsu, to taijutsu, to genjutsu. Because of this, they were feared as "the clan with a thousand skills" (「千の手を持つ一族」, "sen no te o motsu ichizoku"), which gave them their name Senju (千手, "a thousand skills", "a thousand hands")."
and Hashirama cells grant A massive amount of chakra to people who have them (danzo)
again just because he had alot of chakra doesnt make his whole clan the same
some power compared to his own. mokuton is just a bit of power next to madaras powers now. ems, rinnegan, edo immortality. madara has been using it for far longer after all.
Apparnelty you didnt see the (Manga only) on Hashirama Narutowiki now did you so whats your point they both STILL have it. your the only dumb one And what did I say in my last post/First post? POST PROOF
"Update: With all the constant arguing over who beats who, If you cannot post or prove your statement on you post from this day 4/2/12 on then I will report you no matter what side you are on. IF YOU CANT PROVE IT THEN DONT BOTHER POSTING."
"The anime is non-cannon and not official." No its not the Anime is a motion picture manga thats all it is. They take Kishi's manga and turn them into Animes. What they show in the Anime is just as legit as it is in the manga.
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"The manga only shows Hashirama doing it and if you base your stuff off the manga then I do not even need argue with you considering you do not actually use the source material."
There are countless sources available to prove any topic relating to naruto no matter what side it is.
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"Naruto wikia and the anime are not considered official on the base by anyone who is actually intelligent."
The wiki I can understand because anyone can change anything on Wiki but you cant change Anime. Once its done its done there's no changing it so my last statement on the Anime still over rules your opinion.
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"And I literally discredited USSJ statements he was trolling just like you are."
USSJ Statements were correct and valid. So far the only troller on this thread is you. You Have YET to PROVE one thing correct in your statements.
Example:
"First of all. You guys dont tell me how they would win but just that they would.
Second is that Hashirama was better than Tobirama. And we do not know the edo's we just know that they were probably not fodder, none the less they are no match and can be restricted by mokuton.
The sword of thunder is non-canon but even if it was there it is not going to help him all that much.
Tobirama was a better water user than kisame.
And I already explained how the s/t is useless all they could do is use it for transportation, and Hashirama can counter that because they have to use seals and seals can be moved and absorbed by him.
Hashirama is just a bad match up for the two."-narutownsyouall Page 5, (Hashirama Senju vs Tobirama Senju and Minato Namikaze) Thread
"HAHAHAHA! your such a newbie it makes me hurt laughing, I feel like I'm talking to a child. Your terrible at debating and need to stop trolling."
I'm Older than Naruto itself and remember watching it air the first time on TV so no I am no newbie to Naruto, If it makes you hurt laughing there is medicare care for that. I am older than 18 (adult) so no I am no child either. (Personal info so none shall be posted here) Like I said before I'm was head of the Debate team so no I'm not terrible at debating. (again personal info) I'm Not trolling I asked a simple question that YOU took way over board by providing false information/No Proof/didn't do your research. Your the troller not me or anyone else here who gave their Opinion as well as you but you took it too far and wanted to start a war over it and those other people who still post here even provided FACTS and PROVED their claims while you still have YET to do so yourself. So like I said in my first post
IF YOU CANT PROVE IT THEN DONT BOTHER POSTING.
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Note: I am reporting you for not following the rules of this thread. You keep insist on trolling this thread with your "claims" So please provide PROOF of your claims then we shall talk like normal people.
This thread was originally for peoples opinion's and to have a fun vs thread made but you made it into a war thread on who shall win (I admit I shouldnt have carried it on as long as it did either). Hashi will win no Tobi and Minato. No Hashi. I'm sick of this fighting. Countless of people here posted on this thread also giving their opinion which EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT TO HAVE so why must you insist on carrying out this pointless and idiotic fight to try to prove your point that goes against everyone's opinion when in fact you cant even do it yourself because you havnt provided any PROOF at all? :flaw:
All of your points are flawed and no proof to back them up so until you do research and actually prove what you are trying to say then DO NOT POST.
I'm sorry that your not getting your way but if you insist on doing this then I have no other choice but to add these rules to my thread and to enforce them and IF needed to get a admin to just shut this thread down all together *still thinking about it* If you keep up this pointless argument I will shut down this thread and Report you again (after this post and reading this post) for Spamming and Trolling. I'm done fighting over this when clearly you cannot provide any proof. I love debates and I love having debates with people and have fun but this is getting way out of hand. Sorry for carrying it on this long myself but it happens.
Thank you for posting. I hope you have fun on this thread (although its not really fun right now)
First of all I am neither spamming nor trolling. I have brought up manga facts behind each of my statements and just so you know if you report me I will get in no trouble considering that I have been stating my opinion and bringing up points to prove it while you have done nothing except undermine me with nothing but your words and no facts. Secondly you will get in trouble considering that you have posted and advertised several sights that are not Narutobase and that is against the rules. And if you do not remember the admin looks at the conversation and if you do not remember that you had insulted me first and I have just been stating facts and opinions on why I think that Hashirama would win while all you have spent your time doing is insulting me. I'm not reporting you because unlike you I'm 17 and more mature than that. Your age is regardless and so is mine so when they see you say things like "you sound like an 8 year old" they are not going to take this kindly. So report me and I will enjoy myself.
Take in mind that out of everybody I have posted the most links to the manga (from NB) and I have backed up every word. While you keep posting links that have nothing to do with your points and are only about character's and each of them are from Naruto wikia which is unreliable (I will use it from time to time). So stop being a troll and stop trying to threaten me with tattling because It will not work. My opinion is that Hashirama will win. And I have proven why.
lol this shit is still going?! team 2 would win mid difficulty
btw dont bother arguing with trunks he is a troll or a hater. How can you take someone serious that calls hashi healing abilities a hype... when it was stated by madara who fought him to death.
have you seen the size of his knife? he would slice any trees that come his way. and minato should have the other two giant toads as well. food cart destroyer held down 100% kyuubi long enough for minato to teleport him.
immortal unlmited chakra rinnegan madara is not hashirama. thats the great flaw i n your reasoning.
that makes no sense. even mei will be burnt by her acid mist along with her allies if she didnt change the PH of it. how can hashirama stop his pollen if tobiramas water dragon bullet is blowing it towards him?
69 year old hiruzen who said he cant stop oro but minato could, and scared shitless of 3rd coffin.. better than minato?
minato stil has raw speed (shown when he rescued naruto from tobi), s/t barrier (warps anything that comes near minato) and physical teleporting (warping kyuubi away from the vilage after gamabunta held him down). how does minato get trapped?
we dont know if he was that good with them. and his steel is not as good as minats special kunasi which we have seen in action.
yamato is not hashirama. everyone has different earth techs.
just hype. we havent seen it in action
have you seen gaaras current sand tsunamis? they are gigantic and protecting a whole division vs mizukage
wrong. senju means clan of a thousand skills. senjus were jacks of all trades and hashirama united several clans under his senju banner. which is probably how akimichis and aburames came to be in konoha.
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"The Senju clan gained their fame in the era before the founding of the hidden villages. Where other clans focused on mastering one particular skill, the Senju were masters in all skills, from ninjutsu, to taijutsu, to genjutsu. Because of this, they were feared as "the clan with a thousand skills" (「千の手を持つ一族」, "sen no te o motsu ichizoku"), which gave them their name Senju (千手, "a thousand skills", "a thousand hands")."
and Hashirama cells grant A massive amount of chakra to people who have them (danzo)
again just because he had alot of chakra doesnt make his whole clan the same
have you seen him fight hand to hand? i sure havent.
some power compared to his own. mokuton is just a bit of power next to madaras powers now. ems, rinnegan, edo immortality. madara has been using it for far longer after all.
A Tb has already destroyed a mountain. trees > mountains now?
lol yamatos clones were taken care of pretty easily.
1st If it did effect Hashirama then it would have affected Madara (can not say anything about him being edo because Hanzo's poison affected him even though he was an edo.)
Hiruzen was 69 years old....... If Minato had been alive at that time he would be much more powerful than he was back then. And he was scared because then he would have had to of fought 3 hokage. Anybody would be afraid of fighting 3 Hokage at once plus he was 69 so.....
You have no proof to compare the steel of Hashirama's swords to Minato's Kunai.
Yamato gets all his powers from Hashirama. Anything Yamato can do, Hashirama can do 100x better.
Stop trolling the healing. It has been stated in the manga.
This fight has nothing to do with Garra so stop using him.
Thanks for adding on to why Hashirama is amazing! And just so you know! They have it as part of their bloodline (tobi!)
I have actually or did you just forget the whole Hiruzen vs. Hashirama and Tobirama?
I said TB not "TBB" I was saying that Mokuton can take down tailed beasts so it can make short work of and Summon.
Yamato's clones are nowhere near how powerful Hashirama's are considering he does not have nearly as much chakra or That his mokuton is not on the same level.
69 year old hiruzen who said he cant stop oro but minato could, and scared shitless of 3rd coffin.. better than minato?
minato stil has raw speed (shown when he rescued naruto from tobi), s/t barrier (warps anything that comes near minato) and physical teleporting (warping kyuubi away from the vilage after gamabunta held him down). how does minato get trapped?
have you seen gaaras current sand tsunamis? they are gigantic and protecting a whole division vs mizukage
wrong. senju means clan of a thousand skills. senjus were jacks of all trades and hashirama united several clans under his senju banner. which is probably how akimichis and aburames came to be in konoha.
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"The Senju clan gained their fame in the era before the founding of the hidden villages. Where other clans focused on mastering one particular skill, the Senju were masters in all skills, from ninjutsu, to taijutsu, to genjutsu. Because of this, they were feared as "the clan with a thousand skills" (「千の手を持つ一族」, "sen no te o motsu ichizoku"), which gave them their name Senju (千手, "a thousand skills", "a thousand hands")."
and Hashirama cells grant A massive amount of chakra to people who have them (danzo)
again just because he had alot of chakra doesnt make his whole clan the same
have you seen him fight hand to hand? i sure havent.
some power compared to his own. mokuton is just a bit of power next to madaras powers now. ems, rinnegan, edo immortality. madara has been using it for far longer after all.
A Tb has already destroyed a mountain. trees > mountains now?
lol yamatos clones were taken care of pretty easily.
Because Yamato is as strong as Hashirama? No one except Madara's Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan could see through Hashirama's clones, not to mention they're more durable then just Kage Bunshins.
"The anime is non-cannon and not official." No its not the Anime is a motion picture manga thats all it is. They take Kishi's manga and turn them into Animes. What they show in the Anime is just as legit as it is in the manga.
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"The manga only shows Hashirama doing it and if you base your stuff off the manga then I do not even need argue with you considering you do not actually use the source material."
"Naruto wikia and the anime are not considered official on the base by anyone who is actually intelligent."
The wiki I can understand because anyone can change anything on Wiki but you cant change Anime. Once its done its done there's no changing it so my last statement on the Anime still over rules your opinion.
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"And I literally discredited USSJ statements he was trolling just like you are."
USSJ Statements were correct and valid. So far the only troller on this thread is you. You Have YET to PROVE one thing correct in your statements.
Yes, exactly, but sometimes there is Anime filler, which indeed is non canon, you can't prove anything by showing a fight which is completely filler, how for example half of the Hiruzen vs Tobirama and Hashirama battle is Animefiller, half of the fight didn't even happen in the Manga, go see for yourself.
If you want to prove something correctly then use the Manga to be factually correct, as it's all purely coming from Kishimoto's pen and may not contain non canon fillers. It is official.
Most of USSJ statements are either fanboying's self-made-up story's or are anime filler.
It simply was Hashirama doing Bringer of the Darkness.
Because Yamato is as strong as Hashirama? No one except Madara's Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan could see through Hashirama's clones, not to mention they're more durable then just Kage Bunshins.
Yes, exactly, but sometimes there is Anime filler, which indeed is non canon, you can't prove anything by showing a fight which is completely filler, how for example half of the Hiruzen vs Tobirama and Hashirama battle is Animefiller, half of the fight didn't even happen in the Manga, go see for yourself.
If you want to prove something correctly then use the Manga to be factually correct, as it's all purely coming from Kishimoto's pen and may not contain non canon fillers. It is official.
Most of USSJ statements are either fanboying's self-made-up story's or are anime filler.
It simply was Hashirama doing Bringer of the Darkness.
this guy speaks the truth. I dont know why you guys are getting so mad about this. It is actually quite simple. Tobirama senju strength is almost equal to hashirama senju strength since they are brothers. (Do you guys agree or not?)
So if you add minato who is a great shinobi, team 2 should win this.
As a reminder stated in my first post. The rules of this thread are: You can post your opinion all you want but if you make a war out of it or even before it gets to that point you MUST provide proof of your claim if you are going to make a big deal about it.
Wrong. by that logic, hashirama has EMS because madara has his cells and hashirama has fuuton bullets and curse seal because danzo has his cells. yamatos famous for his wood element but its not his only power.
This fight has nothing to do with Garra so stop using him.
im using him as an example. if he can do what he did at 13 and if kisame can do what he does, imagine what tobirama could do. as you said anything kisame can do, tobirama can probabyl do 10x better
I have actually or did you just forget the whole Hiruzen vs. Hashirama and Tobirama?
Because Yamato is as strong as Hashirama? No one except Madara's Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan could see through Hashirama's clones, not to mention they're more durable then just Kage Bunshins.
onyl a bit more durable. from what weve seen yamatos improved to be nearer to hashiramas level. he did nativity of world of trees and wood prisons and such. when he said he was weaker than hashi, that was probably a year ago, manga time
Because Yamato is as strong as Hashirama? No one except Madara's Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan could see through Hashirama's clones, not to mention they're more durable then just Kage Bunshins.
Yes, exactly, but sometimes there is Anime filler, which indeed is non canon, you can't prove anything by showing a fight which is completely filler, how for example half of the Hiruzen vs Tobirama and Hashirama battle is Animefiller, half of the fight didn't even happen in the Manga, go see for yourself.
If you want to prove something correctly then use the Manga to be factually correct, as it's all purely coming from Kishimoto's pen and may not contain non canon fillers. It is official.
Most of USSJ statements are either fanboying's self-made-up story's or are anime filler.
It simply was Hashirama doing Bringer of the Darkness.
I agree with everything you say except I still believe that Hashirama will win. There are a lot of things that people are underestimating here and are not thinking about that I think would win the battle. USSJ I'm done arguing with you because you are trolling and just trying to annoy instead of debate points. By the way everyone Avengers was F(*#(#$*#*$)$*(@##($*@# AWESOME!!!! Go see it!
I agree with everything you say except I still believe that Hashirama will win. There are a lot of things that people are underestimating here and are not thinking about that I think would win the battle. USSJ I'm done arguing with you because you are trolling and just trying to annoy instead of debate points. By the way everyone Avengers was F(*#(#$*#*$)$*(@##($*@# AWESOME!!!! Go see it!
ummmmmmmmmmmm, Minato would take both 1st and 2nd at the same time. He was about to kill A and Killer Bee in that forest but didn't want to because.....well he's a hero and hero's don't kill in Kishi's eyes. And A and Killer Bee are said to be the strongest tag team am I right?
ummmmmmmmmmmm, Minato would take both 1st and 2nd at the same time. He was about to kill A and Killer Bee in that forest but didn't want to because.....well he's a hero and hero's don't kill in Kishi's eyes. And A and Killer Bee are said to be the strongest tag team am I right?
ummmmmmmmmmmm, Minato would take both 1st and 2nd at the same time. He was about to kill A and Killer Bee in that forest but didn't want to because.....well he's a hero and hero's don't kill in Kishi's eyes. And A and Killer Bee are said to be the strongest tag team am I right?
actually minato has no problems with mass murder if its a war.. he murdered all thpose fodders who killed obito. bee had him in a mutual kill stalemate
And what did I say in my last post/First post? POST PROOF 
