Hashirama Senju vs Tobirama Senju and Minato Namikaze

[narutownsyouall]

Lmao, seems like hashirama is being overrated. He is obviously stronger than both of them and if he fights them individually, will beat either with mid/high difficulty. Both tobirama and minato arent fodders ffs. Hashirama is fighting 2 s/t users who have a hole bunch of op techniques under their sleeves.

Team 2 win with mid diff at best

Which OP techniques will help them?

Oh the fact that they can teleport, Rasengan, Edo(yet we do not know summons), powerful soiton? seriously how does anybody see them winning?


Hashirama can beat his brother mid difficulty and he can beat Minato easy difficulty you had that up and you get Hashirama wins hard difficulty

Someone tell me how they would win?

 

[Kwalker394]

Which OP techniques will help them?

Oh the fact that they can teleport, Rasengan, Edo(yet we do not know summons), powerful soiton? seriously how does anybody see them winning?


Hashirama can beat his brother mid difficulty and he can beat Minato easy difficulty you had that up and you get Hashirama wins hard difficulty

Someone tell me how they would win?

I believe Minato and Tobirama will win. considering that they both have S/T techs and some quite powerful jutsu's under them. I believe Hashirama will get owned :scorps:

 

[narutownsyouall]

I believe Minato and Tobirama will win. considering that they both have S/T techs and some quite powerful jutsu's under them. I believe Hashirama will get owned :scorps:

Okay but how are their S/T techniques going to help?

Which attack do they posses that will help them?

 

[Drakengard]

Minato is probably noble enough to use RDS to sacrifice himself. All they'd have to do is make sure it's not a wood clone (which Tobirama should have knowledge on).

 

[Kwalker394]

Okay but how are their S/T techniques going to help?

Which attack do they posses that will help them?

What do you mean how is it going to help? ITS S/T for christ sake :sy: do you really think Hashirama can touch them if they use it and besides they have Suiton jutsu's, (oro, Hashi, Tobirama vs the 3rd) that he used, plus the 4th have all of his jutsu's as well. What can Hashirama do? throw a twig at them? >_>

 

[narutownsyouall]

What do you mean how is it going to help? ITS S/T for christ sake :sy: do you really think Hashirama can touch them if they use it and besides they have Suiton jutsu's, (oro, Hashi, Tobirama vs the 3rd) that he used, plus the 4th have all of his jutsu's as well. What can Hashirama do? throw a twig at them? >_>

Ok so you say that he can not touch them right?

Well both of their S/T rely on seals to preform them. Meaning that if they set a seal anywhere Hashirama can get rid of that. Minato has a limited amount of Kunai and if he throws them then Hashirama can just absorb them into the trees and trap them if Minato tries to teleport to them. If Minato does get close enough all he has is rasengan (unless he uses RDS) but even then Hashirama could just nativity world him. Now take in mind that Hashirama will have created the Flower worldwhich means that Minato can not breathe or else he is out cold.
And if he rasengan's him then Hashirama could just heal.

Now as for Tobirama. He has basically the same abilities as Minato when it comes to space time. So Hashirama will not have a problem with seals and catching him. As for his soiton Hashirama has it too and Wood>Water he could just use his trees to suck water up and he can change the entire field into a tree trunk so he can just trap him. Along with his weapon mastery and ability to change the entire field makes him superior in every way.
And do not forget that he can make OP clones that are indistinguishable unless you have an EMS.

Its just a bad match up for both Hokage.

 

[Kwalker394]

Ok so you say that he can not touch them right?

Well both of their S/T rely on seals to preform them. Meaning that if they set a seal anywhere Hashirama can get rid of that. Minato has a limited amount of Kunai and if he throws them then Hashirama can just absorb them into the trees and trap them if Minato tries to teleport to them. If Minato does get close enough all he has is rasengan (unless he uses RDS) but even then Hashirama could just nativity world him. Now take in mind that Hashirama will have created the Flower worldwhich means that Minato can not breathe or else he is out cold.
And if he rasengan's him then Hashirama could just heal.

Now as for Tobirama. He has basically the same abilities as Minato when it comes to space time. So Hashirama will not have a problem with seals and catching him. As for his soiton Hashirama has it too and Wood>Water he could just use his trees to suck water up and he can change the entire field into a tree trunk so he can just trap him. Along with his weapon mastery and ability to change the entire field makes him superior in every way.
And do not forget that he can make OP clones that are indistinguishable unless you have an EMS.

Its just a bad match up for both Hokage.

I dont see how you came to this conclusion. Keep in mind this isnt a 1v1 its 2v1 so they will be working together. Their seals cant be absorbed into a tree trunk if so show me some proof. Also just because its a tree dosnt mean if can absorb water (especially a Suiton attack) in a instant :/ Rethink your strategy for this one because its flawed :flaw:

 

[narutownsyouall]

I dont see how you came to this conclusion. Keep in mind this isnt a 1v1 its 2v1 so they will be working together. Their seals cant be absorbed into a tree trunk if so show me some proof. Also just because its a tree dosnt mean if can absorb water (especially a Suiton attack) in a instant :/ Rethink your strategy for this one because its flawed :flaw:

First of All he can grow trees around a seal and move any tree along with the land all he has to do is pull the seal into the ground either by moving a tree or moving the land. Minato's kunai can be pulled into the ground and any seals he makes can. And another thing is that how is Tobirama going to deal with the flower world? His soiton may be strong but he cant do mutch while Hashirama controls the field and is always moving with clones running around.

Hashirama wins.

 

[Kwalker394]

First of All he can grow trees around a seal and move any tree along with the land all he has to do is pull the seal into the ground either by moving a tree or moving the land. Minato's kunai can be pulled into the ground and any seals he makes can. And another thing is that how is Tobirama going to deal with the flower world? His soiton may be strong but he cant do mutch while Hashirama controls the field and is always moving with clones running around.

Hashirama wins.

if Tobirama wanted too all he have to do is drown the "Flower world" so that means no sleeping for Tobirama and minato :flaw:

He can place the seal on Hashirama body (I dont believe he can remove that one ) :flaw:

Tobirama has Edo :flaw:

Minato is the fastest Shinobi ever (besides naruto and the Raikage) :flaw:

face it. Tobirama+Minato>Hashirama :flaw:

 

[narutownsyouall]

if Tobirama wanted too all he have to do is drown the "Flower world" so that means no sleeping for Tobirama and minato :flaw:

He can place the seal on Hashirama body (I dont believe he can remove that one ) :flaw:

Tobirama has Edo :flaw:

Minato is the fastest Shinobi ever (besides naruto and the Raikage) :flaw:

face it. Tobirama+Minato>Hashirama :flaw:

HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! did you really just say that Tobirama can drown the whole forest? Where did you get that from? Neverland?

Show me when Tobirama has done that and ill believe you

And how is Minato going to get close enough to Hashirama? And even if he does get it on Hashirama could just make it come off by pushing the affected area away and make a wood clone.

And as for edo. we have no clue who he will summon but they will not be nearly as powerful as Hashirama and not enough to make a difference. Plus Hashirama could just restrict their movement and its over for the edo's.

Hashirama wins!

 

[Kwalker394]

HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! did you really just say that Tobirama can drown the whole forest? Where did you get that from? Neverland?

Show me when Tobirama has done that and ill believe you

And how is Minato going to get close enough to Hashirama? And even if he does get it on Hashirama could just make it come off by pushing the affected area away and make a wood clone.

And as for edo. we have no clue who he will summon but they will not be nearly as powerful as Hashirama and not enough to make a difference. Plus Hashirama could just restrict their movement and its over for the edo's.

Hashirama wins!

Where the hell are you getting your facts from the 1-800 fairy tale hotline? Dude face it Hashirama has NO chance at all.

"Show me when Tobirama has done that and ill believe you" its not impossible to change a battle field my I remind you of Gaara in these few panels

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You cant just remove the seal like its a piece of clothing idiot its not a solid object its a SEAL that is on YOUR BODY :flaw:

how will he get close enough? Simple by getting close to him duh thats not a hard one to figure out. Its not like Hashirama has Peins ability to deflect anyone or anything hes human so you can get close to him all you have to do is move one foot infront of the other and not be hit in the process.

does it matter who Tobirama summons with Edo? Its not just one summon either he can do 1-1000 if he liked :sy:

Clearly your not thinking your arguments through enough. When you summon someone with Edo its not like their just gonna stand still and let themselves be caught they will move/ fight/ and own.

Think of your facts first fanboy before posting on my thread.

Hashirama isnt some god of who you are trying to think he is that title belongs to So6P Hashirama can bleed like anyother man

I can see your points that your stating I really do but without any of your facts then Im not buying it. Im not trolling or flaming but just you saying Hashirama owns all doesnt cut it

 

[narutownsyouall]

Where the hell are you getting your facts from the 1-800 fairy tale hotline? Dude face it Hashirama has NO chance at all.

"Show me when Tobirama has done that and ill believe you" its not impossible to change a battle field my I remind you of Gaara in these few panels

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You cant just remove the seal like its a piece of clothing idiot its not a solid object its a SEAL that is on YOUR BODY :flaw:

how will he get close enough? Simple by getting close to him duh thats not a hard one to figure out. Its not like Hashirama has Peins ability to deflect anyone or anything hes human so you can get close to him all you have to do is move one foot infront of the other and not be hit in the process.

does it matter who Tobirama summons with Edo? Its not just one summon either he can do 1-1000 if he liked :sy:

Clearly your not thinking your arguments through enough. When you summon someone with Edo its not like their just gonna stand still and let themselves be caught they will move/ fight/ and own.

Think of your facts first fanboy before posting on my thread.

Hashirama isnt some god of who you are trying to think he is that title belongs to So6P Hashirama can bleed like anyother man

Thats Garra not Tobirama. I said i would like to see Tobirama drown a forrest. Show me that and your point will be valid. But until then NO.

How is Minato going to get past the flower world again? He can't. How is Minato going to find Hashirama when he can not distinguish Hashirama from his clones? What is Minato going to do when he gets to Hashirama? Rasengan can be healed from and Any kunai attack will not kill him and if he gets close Hashirama will overwhelm him with weapons and Tree arms.

And tell me who those 1000 edo summons are. And BTW where is he getting all this chakra? And where is he getting all these bodies? And where is he getting the DNA from?

Your starting to sound like a dumb fanboy. :flaw:

 

[NLee]

Thats Garra not Tobirama. I said i would like to see Tobirama drown a forrest. Show me that and your point will be valid. But until then NO.

How is Minato going to get past the flower world again? He can't. How is Minato going to find Hashirama when he can not distinguish Hashirama from his clones? What is Minato going to do when he gets to Hashirama? Rasengan can be healed from and Any kunai attack will not kill him and if he gets close Hashirama will overwhelm him with weapons and Tree arms.

And tell me who those 1000 edo summons are. And BTW where is he getting all this chakra? And where is he getting all these bodies? And where is he getting the DNA from?

Your starting to sound like a dumb fanboy. :flaw:

If a 13 year old Gaara could change the landscape and flow and drown away the trees with his sand:

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then I don't see how Tobirama couldn't do more with his water techniques.

Tobirama, the strongest Water user in Konoha and 2nd Hokage, obviously has more chakra and stronger techniques than a 13 year old Gaara. Unless you're trying to suggest otherwise...

 

[Kwalker394]

Thats Garra not Tobirama. I said i would like to see Tobirama drown a forrest. Show me that and your point will be valid. But until then NO.

How is Minato going to get past the flower world again? He can't. How is Minato going to find Hashirama when he can not distinguish Hashirama from his clones? What is Minato going to do when he gets to Hashirama? Rasengan can be healed from and Any kunai attack will not kill him and if he gets close Hashirama will overwhelm him with weapons and Tree arms.

And tell me who those 1000 edo summons are. And BTW where is he getting all this chakra? And where is he getting all these bodies? And where is he getting the DNA from?

Your starting to sound like a dumb fanboy. :flaw:

Dude are you @#cking retarded? "Thats Garra not Tobirama." your right that is not Tobirama but TOBIRAMA is more powerful than GARRA dumb $#it :flaw:

"How is Minato going to get past the flower world again?" I already answered this so I'm not repeating myself again. Learn to read then you will find out. :flaw:

"How is Minato going to find Hashirama when he can not distinguish Hashirama from his clones?" Simple by going after each one dosnt matter if he can or cant distinguish them from one another he can still take them out. :flaw:

"What is Minato going to do when he gets to Hashirama? Rasengan can be healed from and Any kunai attack will not kill him and if he gets close Hashirama will overwhelm him with weapons and Tree arms." This is self explanatory so I will only waste two words. KILL HIM :flaw:

"And tell me who those 1000 edo summons are." hmmm how about all the ones that Kabuto summoned for starters :flaw:

"And BTW where is he getting all this chakra? And where is he getting all these bodies? And where is he getting the DNA from?" The same place where Kabuto got them. He dug them up. :flaw:

"Your starting to sound like a dumb fanboy." I'm a fanboy of Itachi, Gaara, and Naruto *kinda naruto but not much* I could care less of the 2nd and 4th hokage and even the 1st Hokage. Your the ONLY fanboy here thinking Hashirama can defeat 2 of the best hokages ever. So how about this lil boy
Go learn how to read, Argue with FACTS, how to prove your point, how to research, how not to be a fanboy, and then come back and post on this thread which is clearly not for you. :flaw:

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And look at this

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your so called ultimate Hashirama got owned by the 3rd hokage who is at least in his late 70's :flaw:

So like I said? PROVE your point/ argument and then maybe it will start making some sense.

If a 13 year old Gaara could change the landscape and flow and drown away the trees with his sand:

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then I don't see how Tobirama couldn't do more with his water techniques.

Tobirama, the strongest Water user in Konoha and 2nd Hokage, obviously has more chakra and stronger techniques than a 13 year old Gaara. Unless you're trying to suggest otherwise...

Thank you at least someone here see's that Tobirama is more than capable of changing a landscape. Thank you +rep

 

[narutownsyouall]

Dude are you @#cking retarded? "Thats Garra not Tobirama." your right that is not Tobirama but TOBIRAMA is more powerful than GARRA dumb $#it :flaw:

"How is Minato going to get past the flower world again?" I already answered this so I'm not repeating myself again. Learn to read then you will find out. :flaw:

"How is Minato going to find Hashirama when he can not distinguish Hashirama from his clones?" Simple by going after each one dosnt matter if he can or cant distinguish them from one another he can still take them out. :flaw:

"What is Minato going to do when he gets to Hashirama? Rasengan can be healed from and Any kunai attack will not kill him and if he gets close Hashirama will overwhelm him with weapons and Tree arms." This is self explanatory so I will only waste two words. KILL HIM :flaw:

"And tell me who those 1000 edo summons are." hmmm how about all the ones that Kabuto summoned for starters :flaw:

"And BTW where is he getting all this chakra? And where is he getting all these bodies? And where is he getting the DNA from?" The same place where Kabuto got them. He dug them up. :flaw:

"Your starting to sound like a dumb fanboy." I'm a fanboy of Itachi, Gaara, and Naruto *kinda naruto but not much* I could care less of the 2nd and 4th hokage and even the 1st Hokage. Your the ONLY fanboy here thinking Hashirama can defeat 2 of the best hokages ever. So how about this lil boy
Go learn how to read, Argue with FACTS, how to prove your point, how to research, how not to be a fanboy, and then come back and post on this thread which is clearly not for you. :flaw:

Oh and FYI (if you can) read this chapter

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And look at this

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your so called ultimate Hashirama got owned by the 3rd hokage who is at least in his late 70's :flaw:

So like I said? PROVE your point/ argument and then maybe it will start making some sense.




Thank you at least someone here see's that Tobirama is more than capable of changing a landscape. Thank you +rep

So your comparing sand to water? So your saying that He is going to make a pool? cool Hashirama can chill in it after he wins.

First of all sand and water are two different things. water disperses and sand will somewhat stay in its place its called common properties.

When did you counter flower world? Because I just looked and didnt see you post any such counter

Minato can not defeat Hashirama alone so what is he going to do when he runs out of kunai and Hashirama has him cornered?

How is he going to kill him?

Where did he get those edo's from he is dead he cant get any new edos.

So what if Hiruzen beat him I know Hiruzen is stronger than Hashirama so is Madara(edo) Naruto and Maybe Nagato.

And i know now that I'm arguing with someone who is an idiot and is not even taking this seriously because he cant come up with any real reason they would win. HAHAHA! your a child who can not even debate and makes bullcrap statements.

 

[Kwalker394]

So your comparing sand to water? So your saying that He is going to make a pool? cool Hashirama can chill in it after he wins.

First of all sand and water are two different things. water disperses and sand will somewhat stay in its place its called common properties.

When did you counter flower world? Because I just looked and didnt see you post any such counter

Minato can not defeat Hashirama alone so what is he going to do when he runs out of kunai and Hashirama has him cornered?

How is he going to kill him?

Where did he get those edo's from he is dead he cant get any new edos.

So what if Hiruzen beat him I know Hiruzen is stronger than Hashirama so is Madara(edo) Naruto and Maybe Nagato.

And i know now that I'm arguing with someone who is an idiot and is not even taking this seriously because he cant come up with any real reason they would win. HAHAHA! your a child who can not even debate and makes bullcrap statements.

Again your pointless post are annoying me. "not even taking this seriously" of course Im not taking this or YOU in that matter seriously. "because he cant come up with any real reason they would win." I've stated my reason's your the only one who cant seem to comprehend (that means understand for your 8 year old mind) that Hashirama would lose. "Minato can not defeat Hashirama alone" Nah *ucking dip moron I never once said this is a 1v1 Like I said in my last post learn to READ. "your a child who can not even debate and makes bullcrap statements." I've posted my FACTS. all you did was post your joke of an opinion. I'm older than you and you want to call me a child? xd thats the funniest joke I've heard all day. go on tell another

"So what if Hiruzen beat him I know Hiruzen is stronger than Hashirama so is Madara(edo) Naruto and Maybe Nagato." Do you even watch or rea..oh wait I forgot you cant read sorry. Madara is weaker than Hashirama *thats why he lost to him in the first place* Naruto...hmmm maybe. Nagato? Plz Hashirama would :flaw: Nagato.

"Where did he get those edo's from he is dead he cant get any new edos." Do you even read what you post....oh again Im sorry I keep forgetting. Let me teach you some Human Science. If your dead you cant fight in a verse match now can you dumb $hit. Its called grave robbing. You know you take a shovel and dig up graves and you take their DNA and you use Edo to make them your personal army. Wow you really are slow arnt you

"How is he going to kill him?" again self explanatory. You take a jutsu or weapon and you hit/stab someone with it for them to die. :sy:

"When did you counter flower world? Because I just looked and didnt see you post any such counter " Again you miss the most obvious statement in the thread so let me spell it out for you. TOBIRAMA FLOODS THE FLOWER WORLD.....if you have trouble reading it let me know ok and I'll use the syllables next time

"First of all sand and water are two different things. water disperses and sand will somewhat stay in its place its called common properties." So are you saying the ocean cant possibly be there because water cant stay in it place? Ok next time I'm at the beach I'll be sure to warn people that what they think their swimming in isnt water :/ Did your mom help you figure that out? OFC sand is diff from water thats why sand is sand and water is water

maybe you should read NLee post because he is obviously smarter than you.

If a 13 year old Gaara could change the landscape and flow and drown away the trees with his sand:

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then I don't see how Tobirama couldn't do more with his water techniques.

Tobirama, the strongest Water user in Konoha and 2nd Hokage, obviously has more chakra and stronger techniques than a 13 year old Gaara. Unless you're trying to suggest otherwise...

 

[narutownsyouall]

Again your pointless post are annoying me. "not even taking this seriously" of course Im not taking this or YOU in that matter seriously. "because he cant come up with any real reason they would win." I've stated my reason's your the only one who cant seem to comprehend (that means understand for your 8 year old mind) that Hashirama would lose. "Minato can not defeat Hashirama alone" Nah *ucking dip moron I never once said this is a 1v1 Like I said in my last post learn to READ. "your a child who can not even debate and makes bullcrap statements." I've posted my FACTS. all you did was post your joke of an opinion. I'm older than you and you want to call me a child? xd thats the funniest joke I've heard all day. go on tell another

"So what if Hiruzen beat him I know Hiruzen is stronger than Hashirama so is Madara(edo) Naruto and Maybe Nagato." Do you even watch or rea..oh wait I forgot you cant read sorry. Madara is weaker than Hashirama *thats why he lost to him in the first place* Naruto...hmmm maybe. Nagato? Plz Hashirama would :flaw: Nagato.

"Where did he get those edo's from he is dead he cant get any new edos." Do you even read what you post....oh again Im sorry I keep forgetting. Let me teach you some Human Science. If your dead you cant fight in a verse match now can you dumb $hit. Its called grave robbing. You know you take a shovel and dig up graves and you take their DNA and you use Edo to make them your personal army. Wow you really are slow arnt you

"How is he going to kill him?" again self explanatory. You take a jutsu or weapon and you hit/stab someone with it for them to die. :sy:

"When did you counter flower world? Because I just looked and didnt see you post any such counter " Again you miss the most obvious statement in the thread so let me spell it out for you. TOBIRAMA FLOODS THE FLOWER WORLD.....if you have trouble reading it let me know ok and I'll use the syllables next time

"First of all sand and water are two different things. water disperses and sand will somewhat stay in its place its called common properties." So are you saying the ocean cant possibly be there because water cant stay in it place? Ok next time I'm at the beach I'll be sure to warn people that what they think their swimming in isnt water :/ Did your mom help you figure that out? OFC sand is diff from water thats why sand is sand and water is water

maybe you should read NLee post because he is obviously smarter than you.

You amaze me! god you just keep making up laws of physics that do not exist.

So your saying that i can build a mountain out of water? Becasue Even if Tobirama makes an ocean it will disperse and just flow away.

And not even Kisame who has chakra on the level of a TB could only form this

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which is no where near as big as this.

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And I already said that stabbing or using Rasengan could not kill him.

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Is minato's kunai or rasengan equal to this?

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They are not and Hashirama can heal just the same as tsunade.

I said That Madara as an edo is stronger, Hiruzen is stronger, Naruto is stronger and Nagato is on the same level (I think Hashirama beats him though).

And Is tobirama going to go grave robbing while he is fighting Hashirama? because Hashirama would just kill him while he digs.

 

[Kwalker394]

You amaze me! god you just keep making up laws of physics that do not exist.

So your saying that i can build a mountain out of water? Becasue Even if Tobirama makes an ocean it will disperse and just flow away.

And not even Kisame who has chakra on the level of a TB could only form this

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which is no where near as big as this.

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And I already said that stabbing or using Rasengan could not kill him.

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Is minato's kunai or rasengan equal to this?

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They are not and Hashirama can heal just the same as tsunade.

I said That Madara as an edo is stronger, Hiruzen is stronger, Naruto is stronger and Nagato is on the same level (I think Hashirama beats him though).

And Is tobirama going to go grave robbing while he is fighting Hashirama? because Hashirama would just kill him while he digs.

"So your saying that i can build a mountain out of water?" Ya Kisame did it, Zabuza also did it (small level) So if you think water will just dispersed then how can Kakashi make a water dragon it flows through the sky and it moves on its own but its not dispersing even though its water

"And not even Kisame who has chakra on the level of a TB could only form this

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which is no where near as big as this.

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" I think he could have made it bigger he only needed to confined the 8 tails plus Tobirama is the master at Suiton jutsu's and we've only seen a few of his jutsus theres no way that you can tell me that he cant flood the Flower World because he can

"And I already said that stabbing or using Rasengan could not kill him.

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Is minato's kunai or rasengan equal to this?" finally proof see was that so hard? xd lol and I love how you keep thinking the Rasengan dosnt do that much damage xd lol its considered an S rank jutsu all by itself let alone adding a element to it even Kabuto couldnt even heal himself when Naruto FIRST preformed the Rasengan so do you honestly think that the 4th hokage who pretty much mastered it cant do much damage? lol thats funny.

"And Is tobirama going to go grave robbing while he is fighting Hashirama? because Hashirama would just kill him while he digs." of course not do you think Kabuto went grave robbing before the war? No he got it all prepared before hand. :sy:

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[narutownsyouall]

"So your saying that i can build a mountain out of water?" Ya Kisame did it, Zabuza also did it (small level) So if you think water will just dispersed then how can Kakashi make a water dragon it flows through the sky and it moves on its own but its not dispersing even though its water

"And not even Kisame who has chakra on the level of a TB could only form this

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which is no where near as big as this.

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" I think he could have made it bigger he only needed to confined the 8 tails plus Tobirama is the master at Suiton jutsu's and we've only seen a few of his jutsus theres no way that you can tell me that he cant flood the Flower World because he can

"And I already said that stabbing or using Rasengan could not kill him.

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Is minato's kunai or rasengan equal to this?" finally proof see was that so hard? xd lol and I love how you keep thinking the Rasengan dosnt do that much damage xd lol its considered an S rank jutsu all by itself let alone adding a element to it even Kabuto couldnt even heal himself when Naruto FIRST preformed the Rasengan so do you honestly think that the 4th hokage who pretty much mastered it cant do much damage? lol thats funny.

"And Is tobirama going to go grave robbing while he is fighting Hashirama? because Hashirama would just kill him while he digs." of course not do you think Kabuto went grave robbing before the war? No he got it all prepared before hand. :sy:

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No ninja today is known to be able to hold something nearly as big as an ocean or even a lake. Flower world is bigger than any Water prison the second can make. And Hashirama is a soiton user too. He would make use of it and kill Minato while he is in there considering that Minato would be drowning. It does not disperse because of thir hold using chakra. Tobirama may be powerful but he can not make that much water.

And now your making stuff up with the whole edo thing seriously he prepared before the fight?

well then Hashirama prepared by going to sasuke and killing him taking EMS and now has rinnegan and EMS.

Your such a hater its hilarious!!

 

[Retsu]

Tobirama and Minato win, seriously, Tobirama has Intel, Edo, even if we don't know what ninja he can summon, we know that he was smart enough to realize what happens if the summoner dies, so if anything he has permanent fodder ninja walking the battlefield, he also has the sword of the thunder god

Minato has his S/t tech, reaper death seal, and was able to slice bee's tentacle in half with his kunai, Hashirama was good, but he died young none the less, two S/t users are too much for almost any ninja, and Tobirama is the best water user other than Kisame, everyone has limits, even Hashirama