Hashirama rumor?

[Exaar]

Tell me how Hiruzen counters Hashirama's flower power jutsu. He gets knocked out, and loses the battle (why would Hashirama kill him?).

Tell me how Hiruzen counters Hashirama's mokuton clone jutsu, which Madara said that only he with his EMS could see through. He can't, he gets impaled like Tsunade.[/SIZE]

Just because he cannot see through them, Doesn't mean he can be defeated by them.

No one can see through shadow clones, Even with a dojutsu, Doesn't mean they can be defeated by them.

 

[MickNerks]

The guy has a point. A person who idolizes the Hokage saying how he is the strongest isn't the most greatest of sources. Again, the situation would be the same in any other village.

It wasnt just irukas words. It was iruku, orochimaru, kabuto, danzo flashback, anbu, and hiruzen himself.

 

[Exaar]

It wasnt just irukas words. It was iruku, orochimaru, kabuto, danzo flashback, anbu, and hiruzen himself.

And many other shinobi's opinion.

*waits for reply "They're all nameless fodders they don't count"*

 

[Awesome Face]

And many other shinobi's opinion.

*waits for reply "They're all nameless fodders they don't count"*

They're all nameless fodders they don't count

 

[Kristjan]

Why could he not be able to use them, he is skilled enough to be called a God/Master every tech that once existed in the leaf (besides KKG) Yet medical Ninjutsu is out of his reach? lol.

Him using medical ninjutsu would of just wasted even more chakra that he couldn't afford to lose, Plus he was never really seriously injured enough to need to use it, Apart from what he got Stabbed by Oros sword but by that point he was already dead because of RDS



You don't need to be strong to tell someone about the opinion of others, Iruka was simply stating what people say about hiruzen.

Iruka being "Fodder" changes nothing.

No way he can to all the ninjutsu in konoha, that would mean he can to all 5 natures that is only shown by nagato who has rinnegan.

 

[Tormound]

It wasnt just irukas words. It was iruku, orochimaru, kabuto, danzo flashback, anbu, and hiruzen himself.

Hiruzen calling himself the best... Don't know if that should count. Kabuto changed his mind in part 2 then. The rest? Don't think they were alive to ever see Hashirama go full out to compare to Hiruzen.

 

[Exaar]

No way he can to all the ninjutsu in konoha, that would mean he can to all 5 natures that is only shown by nagato who has rinnegan.

Well the manga says he can.

Kishi gave him the title of "God of shinobi" for a reason.

 

[Awesome Face]

No way he can to all the ninjutsu in konoha, that would mean he can to all 5 natures that is only shown by nagato who has rinnegan.

Im sorry, I couldnt understand you. Your grammar is on a 1st grade level.

 

[Omnipotent]

Just because he cannot see through them, Doesn't mean he can be defeated by them.

No one can see through shadow clones, Even with a dojutsu, Doesn't mean they can be defeated by them.

I said, tell me how he counters them.

Once again, how does he counter flower power jutsu? He doesn't, he gets knocked out.

How does he counter mokuton clone jutsu? He doesn't, he gets impaled.

 

[Exaar]

I said, tell me how he counters them.

Once again, how does he counter flower power jutsu? He doesn't, he gets knocked out.

How does he counter mokuton clone jutsu? He doesn't, he gets impaled.

We don't know how he counters flower world, Since he has never seen him at full power in his prime.

As i said, because he cannot see through wood clones doesn't mean he would get "impaled" by them.

 

[MickNerks]

Don't spout foolishness. According to the manga, not only can Hashirama suppress tailed beasts, but he can control them as Madara did:

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Tell me how Hiruzen counters Hashirama's flower power jutsu. He gets knocked out, and loses the battle (why would Hashirama kill him?).

Tell me how Hiruzen counters Hashirama's mokuton clone jutsu, which Madara said that only he with his EMS could see through. He can't, he gets impaled like Tsunade.

first of all I was talking about kurama, hashirama could not control kurama so mito had to seal it within herself. Hashirama himself made refrence to kuramas power, by saying it was to great.

Hiruzen eliminates flowering tree world by katon. By eliminating the flower u render the jutsu usrless.. mokuton is useless against hiruzen thanks to enma.. enma snaps mokuton like twigs.lol

 

[Tormound]

Well the manga says he can.

Kishi gave him the title of "God of shinobi" for a reason.

PEOPLE. CAN CHANGE. THEIR MINDS.
Because Kishi obviously did

 

[Kristjan]

He defeated madara first and then dealt with the beast.. But i find it funny that the bijuu suppressor couldnt fight on equal grounds as the kyuubi. Hashirama went as far as to say that the kyuubi's power is "TOOO GREAT". It was too great for even hashirama to deal with..

And Mito sealed the kyuubi within herself. hashirama had nothing to do with the sealing, mito says it in the middle panel.

People who are capable and have shown that they could subdue and defeat the nine tails:

3rd raikage
Naruto
Kushina
Minato

Hashirama was not capable of supressing its power or stopping it.

3rd raikage will not subdue nor defeat kurama, he was only able to tie with 8 tails and you know that kurama is a lot stronger
Naruto will never defeat kurama with the tech he has now.If he can use that sealing outside of his mind mby then.
Minato and kushina are different story beacause they can seal kurama.
And dont forget madara and obito.
And i bealive itachi can control kurama too.

 

[Exaar]

PEOPLE. CAN CHANGE. THEIR MINDS.
Because Kishi obviously did

Kishi obviously did?, Can you please give me kishi's contact info because you seem to know that he has changed his mind, Even though he hasn't stated to of changed his mind in any interviews or even in the 3rd databook.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Well the manga says he can.

Kishi gave him the title of "God of shinobi" for a reason.

The medical ninjutsu is not a regular ninjutsu. You need to have talent and perfect chakra control to master it. And as I know it was never mentioned that Hiruzen's chakra control was perfect, or he had talent to medical ninjutsu.

I'm not saying he is weak. In part1 he was defenitely the strongest. But now, with his feats, he is barely on jounin level. And he can't be the strongest Hokage only with hype. The hype can't counter the enemy's attacks.

 

[OnPoint]

Hashirama can't control or suppress Kurama? Trolling?

 

[Awesome Face]

The medical ninjutsu is not a regular ninjutsu. You need to have talent and perfect chakra control to master it. And as I know it was never mentioned that Hiruzen's chakra control was perfect, or he had talent to medical ninjutsu.

I'm not saying he is weak. In part1 he was defenitely the strongest. But now, with his feats, he is barely on jounin level. And he can't be the strongest Hokage only with hype. The hype can't counter the enemy's attacks.

The fact that he could learn and complete all of konoha's jutsu implies he has good chakra control.
And who the **** are you to state what level he is? Your just a no-life fan.

 

[Exaar]

The medical ninjutsu is not a regular ninjutsu. You need to have talent and perfect chakra control to master it. And as I know it was never mentioned that Hiruzen's chakra control was perfect, or he had talent to medical ninjutsu.

I'm not saying he is weak. In part1 he was defenitely the strongest. But now, with his feats, he is barely on jounin level. And he can't be the strongest Hokage only with hype. The hype can't counter the enemy's attacks.

It doesn't matter if it's "not a regular ninjutsu".

It was stated that he knew and was able to use All Jutsu that existed in the leaf, this covers Nin/Gen/Tai and medical ninjutsu since Medical ninjutsu counts as Jutsu.

Oro did not say that he once knew and was able to use Almost all, he said he was able to use All.

 

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[Kristjan]

Im sorry, I couldnt understand you. Your grammar is on a 1st grade level.

who cares ?