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It was said twice he could use them like bee , madara and yogara

Several biju and kyuubi tbbs>narutos xd

How do you know , we can only assume he does

He can't use them like the 3 above because he's obviously not a jinchuuriki. Naruto's tbb = a combined tbb of the rest of them or did you miss that chapter?

Why can we only assume he can use them like Obito? Why not go with what's been shown, which was Hashirama subduing bijuu and having several under control(not meaning like how Obito had them).
 

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Yes Hashi can suppress the Kyuubi...
 

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Hashirama is the strongest shinobi....any one who thinks Naruto is stronger than Hashirama is daydreaming.
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I'm not disagreeing with the manga just your interpretation.
ah i see

Please tell me how im disagreeing with the manga. The manga has also said that naruto has surpassed his previous Successors as being the hokages. Please tell me how im disagreeing with manga plz
It was said hashirama can't be beaten by anyone alive, this was more recent, so which do i believe xd

Surpass does not mean he can beat
 

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It is unfair to make such comparisons as we are yet to see the fight between Hashirama and Madara. This fight will show us the full extent of Hashiramas powers. So far we've only seen bits and pieces, for example, obito an Madara using Hashiramas cells to better control the jyuubi, regenerate ect. Ok? No more fan boy fights! Lol
 

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It was said hashirama can't be beaten by anyone alive, this was more recent, so which do i believe xd

Surpass does not mean he can beat

Where does that been stated. Show me proof. Second It was said he couldn't be beat in his time in the era of hashi vs ems madara.
 

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He can't use them like the 3 above because he's obviously not a jinchuuriki. Naruto's tbb = a combined tbb of the rest of them or did you miss that chapter?

Why can we only assume he can use them like Obito? Why not go with what's been shown, which was Hashirama

subduing bijuu and having several under control(not meaning like how Obito had them).

Madara is not a biju, and it was not shown, it was saod xd

Nah bro kyuubi and several
kyuubi which would make a big impact +other biju possibly gyuki because it was hinted +other biju>narutos
 

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Madara is not a biju, and it was not shown, it was saod xd

Nah bro kyuubi and several
kyuubi which would make a big impact +other biju possibly gyuki because it was hinted +other biju>narutos

Making up abilities isn't helping, he can't control bijuu like Obitio.
 

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Where does that been stated. Show me proof. Second It was said he couldn't be beat in his time in the era of hashi vs ems madara.

I would find the page, but i am on my phone, can't post it

Kabuto stated no one alive could beat him
 

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lol you guys are wayyyy too quick to judge hashis power, please stop fanboying over naruto...

muutobirama3rdraikagemizu is not making up abilities, in fact he's right

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I will say however that it was dan who said nobody alive could beat madara except for the first hokage but we cant say for sure if dan really knows the full extent of edo madara's abilities to make such a rash judgement
 

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lol you guys are wayyyy too quick to judge hashis power, please stop fanboying over naruto...

muutobirama3rdraikagemizu is not making up abilities, in fact he's right

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I will say however that it was dan who said nobody alive could beat madara except for the first hokage but we cant say for sure if dan really knows the full extent of edo madara's abilities to make such a rash judgement

I'm aware of that scan. He had control over bijuu which means he could have just had them suppressed nothing like what Obito can do which he claimed.
 

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Why did orochimaru say he could bend them to his control

Maybe he can do that as well. But it still doesn't mean he has the skill to keep all of them under that level of complete control like Obito. Before we start making claims like that a few scans of him doing that would be very helpful.
 

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I'm aware of that scan. He had control over bijuu which means he could have just had them suppressed nothing like what Obito can do which he claimed.

You say hashi has bijuu supression when the manga clearly states that it was bijuu control, thats even comparable to jinjuriki...
/argument you cant deny that hashi could control bijuu
 

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I believe kishi will show us a more op hashirama to make Naruto strong for beating madara
 

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You say hashi has bijuu supression when the manga clearly states that it was bijuu control, thats even comparable to jinjuriki...
/argument you cant deny that hashi could control bijuu

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Obito said he had several under his control which doesn't mean he controlled them all at the same time which could mean he just had them in his possession through suppressing them. Which makes a lot more sense to me than him using them like Obito. It hasn't even been hinted at that he can use them like Obito or Madara as well.
 

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Obito said he had several under his control which doesn't mean he controlled them all at the same time which could mean he just had them in his possession through suppressing them. Which makes a lot more sense to me than him using them like Obito. It hasn't even been hinted at that he can use them like Obito or Madara as well.
He just showed you the scan

Im done , i am about to go

Hopefully you will see hashirama>naruto
 
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