Hashirama > Nagato arguments included

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First of all this isnt a hater thread, just my opinion, you can read and argue, too :D.

I tell you how he can win, how he can counter even chibaku tensei.

Hashirama IS stronger than Nagato imo.
He spams forests until he has crushed nagato.
Nagato can repel the first one with a large scale shinra tensi maybe, but hashirama can create a second forest easily to crush Nagato durin he has his interval.

Chibaku Tensi can be countered simply. Hashirama covers himself with a large amount of trees in order to protect himself from being crushed. Above, he can melt himself into his trees and merge with them. So he can anyway protect himself from being crushes. Madara can do this aswell.

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Here he merge himself with the trees. And if i talking about a big amount of trees in order to protect himself, I mean this amount

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Look oonoki looks like an ant in view of those trees (only th little part madara burnt with his katon). If hashirama uses a similar amount of trees and merge himself with them, chibaku tensei is countered.

Hashirama can change tha battlefield anyway to his advantage due to the forest, the trees and the flowers and their polen. He can spam large amounts of trees any thime, he can create 10 mokuton bunshins (better than normal bunshins) to fight with them, he has a recovery like tsunade with her seal, without finger seals he can heal big flesh wounds.

So Hashirama imo is stronger than nagato.

What do you say?
 

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Gedo Mazo is the most OP being in this matchup. It's strong enough to take Giant Chouza and Giant Chouji's attacks and knock them over with just a roar. Gedo Mazo soul removal dragon is only being dodged or countered by someone with S/T Ninjutsu or body flicker techniques. Hashirama isn't dodging this while concentration on CT, Asura path, ST etc. Hashirama is also not going to be able to deal with all of Nagato's summons, and if he tries to, he can't possibly hope to focus on Nagato at the same time.

Deva path and Shinra Tensei will counter Hashirama's Mokuton techniques. Hashirama is also going to have his hands full when Nagato uses Chibaku Tensei. Just look at what Nagato did to Konoha, whilst controlling bodies from a remote location. Naruto also remarked that Nagato's moves are stronger when they're in one body. We also know Nagato can use multiple paths at the same time. Throw in his incredible chakra reserves and there's only really one winner, albeit with high diff.
 
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Since when could he spam forests? We know he can make a huge forest quickly but nothing about spamming them.

Hashirama's forest and everything around will just end up in the chibaki tensei.

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Hashirama also has no knowledge of the 5 second interval, i'm not sure if ithere's even one with the real Nagato. He can merge with the trees but how does it block shinra tensei?

This is what a regular shinra tensei from Nagato can do to a forest

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Gedo Mazo is the most OP being in this matchup. It's strong enough to take Giant Chouza and Giant Chouji's attacks and knock them over with just a roar. Gedo Mazo soul removal dragon is only being dodged or countered by someone with S/T Ninjutsu or body flicker techniques. Hashirama isn't dodging this while concentration on CT, Asura path, ST etc. Hashirama is also not going to be able to deal with all of Nagato's summons, and if he tries to, he can't possibly hope to focus on Nagato at the same time.

Deva path and Shinra Tensei will counter Hashirama's Mokuton techniques. Hashirama is also going to have his hands full when Nagato uses Chibaku Tensei. Just look at what Nagato did to Konoha, whilst controlling bodies from a remote location. Naruto also remarked that Nagato's moves are stronger when they're in one body. We also know Nagato can use multiple paths at the same time. Throw in his incredible chakra reserves and there's only really one winner, albeit with high diff.

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