[VS] Hashirama&Madara vs Minato,Naruto and Obito
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The founders win with mid difficulty at best.
1. They are individually above these 3 and it's not even close. Especially Obito. They surpass these 3 (individually) in firepower, durability, etc.
2. Shinsuusenju makes all Bijuu Dama bar a possible combination BD useless as it would just catch them, and a combination BD isn't going to happen unless Hashirama or Madara sits there and lets it happen.
3. Minato isn't warping anything here when Madara can easily keep him away with Bijuu Dama and PS blade spam, assuming he has Kurama. If he doesn't then the latter will work well enough.
4. Obito is useless. He dies if he tries to warp these two and his Mazo gets one shotted by PS or SS.
If it weren't for how tricky Hiraishin and Kamui could be, either one could solo.
1. They are individually above these 3 and it's not even close. Especially Obito. They surpass these 3 (individually) in firepower, durability, etc.
2. Shinsuusenju makes all Bijuu Dama bar a possible combination BD useless as it would just catch them, and a combination BD isn't going to happen unless Hashirama or Madara sits there and lets it happen.
3. Minato isn't warping anything here when Madara can easily keep him away with Bijuu Dama and PS blade spam, assuming he has Kurama. If he doesn't then the latter will work well enough.
4. Obito is useless. He dies if he tries to warp these two and his Mazo gets one shotted by PS or SS.
If it weren't for how tricky Hiraishin and Kamui could be, either one could solo.
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I wonder what happens if both Naruto and Minato give Obito a combined cloak.
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What would it amp for Obito? He has no long range kamui so that's useless bigger katon?
EMS Madara with Kurama should solo foreals
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Case1: Madara doesn't have his pet Kurama: Team 2 rapes.
1. bm minato individually kills either of hashirama or madara.
2. rinnegan obito individually 1-shots ems madara. hashirama's sm can pose problems to the kamui (since obito doesn't have long range one) but in any case hashirama isn't beating rinnegan obito
3. bsm naruto individually loses to hashirama but he can defeat ems madara.
Case2: Madara has his pet Kurama: Team 2 wins with high difficulty.
1. bm minato who can individually defeat hashirama will have to fight hashirama because Madara with Kurama is a combination that bsm naruto alone can't stop.
2. rinnegan obito who commands 7 tailed beasts and gedo mazo along with rinnegan's outer path has the kamui! madara may use kurama with sharingan's genjutsu but obito can do the same. he can pitch 7 tailed beasts against kurama.
he can also take control of kurama with sharingan just as he took it from kushina
or use the Rinnegan's outer path to take kurama in the gedo mazo,
ems Madara has no ways of stopping rinnegan's outer path control of kurama. once activated all madara can do is watch:
3. bsm naruto individually loses to both hashirama or madara in this one but with the help of obito he defeats madara or with minato he defeats hashirama
1. bm minato individually kills either of hashirama or madara.
2. rinnegan obito individually 1-shots ems madara. hashirama's sm can pose problems to the kamui (since obito doesn't have long range one) but in any case hashirama isn't beating rinnegan obito
3. bsm naruto individually loses to hashirama but he can defeat ems madara.
Case2: Madara has his pet Kurama: Team 2 wins with high difficulty.
1. bm minato who can individually defeat hashirama will have to fight hashirama because Madara with Kurama is a combination that bsm naruto alone can't stop.
2. rinnegan obito who commands 7 tailed beasts and gedo mazo along with rinnegan's outer path has the kamui! madara may use kurama with sharingan's genjutsu but obito can do the same. he can pitch 7 tailed beasts against kurama.
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he can also take control of kurama with sharingan just as he took it from kushina
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or use the Rinnegan's outer path to take kurama in the gedo mazo,
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ems Madara has no ways of stopping rinnegan's outer path control of kurama. once activated all madara can do is watch:
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3. bsm naruto individually loses to both hashirama or madara in this one but with the help of obito he defeats madara or with minato he defeats hashirama