Hashirama is underrated.

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He never said Hashirama can beat the juubi. Stop telling lies.

he did when I private messaged him....I said there's no way Hashirama can beat Edo Madara+Juubi and he says Hashirama has an even bigger tech than the juubi, the Shin Sūsenju, implying that it could defeat it.

not to mention that he already said in a recent thread that it could compete with the juubi....here's the quote

You must be a idiotic retard to think it can't take on the Juubi.
 

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Reads username ... reads reply ... not sure which to believe

I can link you the thread if you want. He compared sizes and concluded the wooden Budha was bigger.
he did when I private messaged him....I said there's no way Hashirama can beat Edo Madara+Juubi and he says Hashirama has an even bigger tech than the juubi, the Shin Sūsenju, implying that it could defeat it.

not to mention that he already said in a recent thread that it could compete with the juubi....here's the quote
Well technically speaking Hashirama doesnt have to beat the juubi to defeat Edo Madara. He simply has to remove it from Madara's control. Seeing how Madara is finding it a bit difficult to control it even with Obito aiding him, I think it's fair to say the wooden budha is more than capable of accomplishing that feat.
 
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Kurama is EMS madara's power, stop denying it

Hashi >= Madara
 

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Hashirama is undoubtedly more powerful than Madara.....but if anything, people overrate him a bit too much

saying that he can defeat the juubi, can defeat edo madara, fodderize nagato and rinnegan obito, etc.

No it is ignorant people like you, who don't read the threads and the posts clearly make up stuff like that. You blame the Hashirama fans yet you provide no counter by Edo Madara to the strongest Technique of Hashirama's.

Kurama is EMS madara's power, stop denying it

Hashi >= Madara
Kyuubi doesn't come with the EMS. So stop making up stuff.
 

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Fact is, Hashi would have had an easier time with Madara had he not had the Kyubi
Don't know why people keep saying Kurama was a part of Madara's power
 

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No it is ignorant people like you, who don't read the threads and the posts clearly make up stuff like that. You blame the Hashirama fans yet you provide no counter by Edo Madara to the strongest Technique of Hashirama's.


Kyuubi doesn't come with the EMS. So stop making up stuff.

I just did in your other thread
 

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Fact is, Hashi would have had an easier time with Madara had he not had the Kyubi
Don't know why people keep saying Kurama was a part of Madara's power

Because it is. He can summon and control it to do his bidding as he pleases, It can be disarmed just as a weapon can be disarmed from an opponent. Nothing you say can change the fact that kurama is EMS madara's b*tch...
 

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I can link you the thread if you want. He compared sizes and concluded the wooden Budha was bigger.

Well technically speaking Hashirama doesnt have to beat the juubi to defeat Edo Madara. He simply has to remove it from Madara's control. Seeing how Madara is finding it a bit difficult to control it even with Obito aiding him, I think it's fair to say the wooden budha is more than capable of accomplishing that feat.

yeah but when the Juubi was shooting it's TBB, the only reason naruto+group was able to dodge it was due to kamui and ino's mind control tech

Hashirama has neither, and seeing how juubi's TBB>>>>>kyuubi....it would annihilate Shin Sūsenju
 

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yeah but when the Juubi was shooting it's TBB, the only reason naruto+group was able to dodge it was due to kamui and ino's mind control tech

Hashirama has neither, and seeing how juubi's TBB>>>>>kyuubi....it would annihilate Shin Sūsenju

10 TBB with Susano'o swords, couldn't annihilate it.. why are you making random assumptions??????
 

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Because it is. He can summon and control it to do his bidding as he pleases, It can be disarmed just as a weapon can be disarmed from an opponent. Nothing you say can change the fact that kurama is EMS madara's b*tch...

Look up the word power, by that logic, Haku was Zabuza's power
No.
Madara was not one who could use Bijuu Dama, he was just usings Kurama's power
EMS is Madara's power
 

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yeah but when the Juubi was shooting it's TBB, the only reason naruto+group was able to dodge it was due to kamui and ino's mind control tech

Hashirama has neither, and seeing how juubi's TBB>>>>>kyuubi....it would annihilate Shin Sūsenju

And what if he summons it on top of the juubi like Minato did with the kyubi and immediately removes control of the juubi from Madara. What then? A jutsu is only as powerful as it's user.
 

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10 TBB with Susano'o swords, couldn't annihilate it.. why are you making random assumptions??????
how the hell is that an assumption?

The 10 tails TBB was able to destroy a whole city and counter both the multiple Hachibi and Kyuubi TBBs combined
 
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LOL Hashirama of all people underrated.Man you're funny.
 

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And what if he summons it on top of the juubi like Minato did with the kyubi and immediately removes control of the juubi from Madara. What then? A jutsu is only as powerful as it's user.

well we've only seen it get summoned from the ground so who knows.

anyways KingHashirama just said that the Shin Sūsenju can tank the juubi TBB....so if that's not fanboyism, then idk what is

Edit: He also just stated in his other thread that both Chibaku Tensei and Madara's Meteor tech would not be enough to crush Shin Sūsenju or even the user on top of it
 
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I am seeing threads in which people are stating that EMS Madara = Hashirama but this is completely false. Hashirama is on a completely different level than Madara. THe only reason that Madara was able to fight on par with Hashirama and why Hashirama was fored to use Shinsuusenju and Sennin Mode is because of the involvement of Kurama in the fight - had Kurama not participated and was just EMS Madara than he would have lost a lot quicker. Hashirama has been shown to be on a completely different level - user of a powerful genjutsu, ability to heal themselves with no hands signs or seals, use Mokuton and more. Yes, Madara has Perfect Susano'o, Tsukuyomi, possibly Amaterasu, a plethora of powerful Katon etc. Madara is an extremely powerful ninja and is on an entirely different level from almost any ninja and easily Top 3 material but bluntly stated, Hashirama > Madara. Not Hashirama>= Madara or Madara > Hashirama or Madara = Hashirama...it is Hashirama > Madara. Thank You for Reading.

hashi is better butkyubi didn't do too much besides damage to the 1000 hands. instead using all his chakra on susanoo wouldve worked just as good
 

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how the hell is that an assumption?

The 10 tails TBB was able to destroy a whole city and counter both the multiple Hachibi and Kyuubi TBBs combined

Hashirama countered Kyuubi's TBB easily also...... lmaooo. So yes that is a assumption.
 

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Hashirama countered Kyuubi's TBB easily also...... lmaooo. So yes that is a assumption.

and you're assuming that Shin Sūsenju can tank a juubi TBB

fact:
1 juubi TBB overpowers 10 TBB from both the kyuubi and hachibi

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