I am seeing threads in which people are stating that EMS Madara = Hashirama but this is completely false. Hashirama is on a completely different level than Madara. THe only reason that Madara was able to fight on par with Hashirama and why Hashirama was fored to use Shinsuusenju and Sennin Mode is because of the involvement of Kurama in the fight - had Kurama not participated and was just EMS Madara than he would have lost a lot quicker. Hashirama has been shown to be on a completely different level - user of a powerful genjutsu, ability to heal themselves with no hands signs or seals, use Mokuton and more. Yes, Madara has Perfect Susano'o, Tsukuyomi, possibly Amaterasu, a plethora of powerful Katon etc. Madara is an extremely powerful ninja and is on an entirely different level from almost any ninja and easily Top 3 material but bluntly stated, Hashirama > Madara. Not Hashirama>= Madara or Madara > Hashirama or Madara = Hashirama...it is Hashirama > Madara. Thank You for Reading.