Hashirama is more knowledgeable than we think.

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In the past like 40 chapters with Hashirama, he's been showing a deep knowledge of the Sage's jutsu and abilities. Where has he learned these things? I'm mainly concerned on whether or not Kishi elaborates on how this idiot of a kage knows the Sage's jutsu? He knows Shin-Jukai Koutan, which I'm pretty sure only Madara and the sage know.

He even looks pissed about the fact Madara's using it:
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While his seemingly more knowledgeable brother(The man that was able to bring souls back from the dead) didn't even know what was happening?

Even Minato is at this occurrence. I can't speak on Hiruzen's knowledge of the technique, but if Tobirama doesn't know it, I can't see how Hiruzen would.



I'd also like to point out that Hashirama is being a damn beast, right under our eyes. In my opinion, he will break free of the black rods pretty soon. His entire body is , and we know that occurs when he's trying to rise chakra and trying to move. We also know he has the strongest potency of chakra; even able to shake up the other 3 kage, Orochimaru, and Sasuke(the others don't matter). Why would Kishi add that subtle detail in if he's just going to sit there for the rest of the battle?

IMO, Hashirama might even get a power-up, along with the other kage to be able to fight on par with the combination of Black Zetsu Obito and Spiral Zetsu Yamato.

What do you guys think? *_*
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Other members have reminded me on other situations where Hashirama recalls jutsu used by the sage, but would have been impossible for him to know of. As far as we know, Madara was the only character knowledgeable enough with the rinnegan in that era of shinobi. Hashirama should essentially have no, or limited understandings of it.

Also check out BlacLord's thread about his missing piece of armor:
 
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Just because he isn't serious all the time doesn't mean he's dumb. He's probably in the top 5 of wisest people in the series.
 

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Jukai Kōtan is Hashiramas jutsu, that's why he knew about !!! it U_U
 

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seems very possable nice theory
 

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Hashirama knows of the technique because it is his technique. Instead, Madara is using the Shinju (Divine Tree) as the medium of the technique and not manipulating wood itself:

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In the past like 40 chapters with Hashirama, he's been showing a deep knowledge of the Sage's jutsu and abilities. Where has he learned these things? I'm mainly concerned on whether or not Kishi elaborates on how this idiot of a kage knows the Sage's jutsu? He knows Shin-Jukai Koutan, which I'm pretty sure only Madara and the sage know.

He even looks pissed about the fact Madara's using it:
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While his seemingly more knowledgeable brother(The man that was able to bring souls back from the dead) didn't even know what was happening?

Even Minato is at this occurrence. I can't speak on Hiruzen's knowledge of the technique, but if Tobirama doesn't know it, I can't see how Hiruzen would.



I'd also like to point out that Hashirama is being a damn beast, right under our eyes. In my opinion, he will break free of the black rods pretty soon. His entire body is , and we know that occurs when he's trying to rise chakra and trying to move. We also know he has the strongest potency of chakra; even able to shake up the other 3 kage, Orochimaru, and Sasuke(the others don't matter). Why would Kishi add that subtle detail in if he's just going to sit there for the rest of the battle?

IMO, Hashirama might even get a power-up, along with the other kage to be able to fight on par with the combination of Black Zetsu Obito and Spiral Zetsu Yamato.

What do you guys think? *_*
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Hashirama and the Senju are the heirs to Ashura and Hagoromo so my guess is they inherited some of Hagoromo's knowledge and jutsus. There's also Hashirama's mysterious scroll that Naruto learned the mass kege bunshin from.
 

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Absolutely. He should add the fact that he assumed that Madara was using Rinne Tensei earlier the first time where he failed with Obito. That was another one of the Sage's jutsus and though the Rinnegan didn't exist while Hashirama did, he knew about it. Somehow...

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Hashirama knows of the technique because it is his technique. Instead, Madara is using the Shinju (Divine Tree) as the medium of the technique and not manipulating wood itself:

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True, but Hashirama also knew of Rinne Tensei and can use the god gate.
 

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Hashirama knows of the technique because it is his technique. Instead, Madara is using the Shinju (Divine Tree) as the medium of the technique and not manipulating wood itself:
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Ok thanks for clearing that up; that's why the footnote on made no sense to me at first.

MangaPanda f'ed up the translation :rolleyes:
 

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Hashirama always came off as the lighthearted carefree genius, unlike Ashura (as far as we know) and Naruto.

Hashirama = Professor X (especially now that he's immobilized)
Madara = Magneto
 

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Well, he is very well informed...
His scroll contains enormous information about Shinobi and Ninjutsu, that alone proves it...
 

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He's a wood user. It fits perfectly fine knowing how every tree in the world works.

And there's the possibility Rikudou had a conversation with him, too
 

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Lol. Its his. Whatd you think Madara knows how to do it? That wasnt in the uchicha tablet since its wood manipulation techs = senjus techs.
 

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he really is a genius considering the he (with madara) founded the hidden leaf and all 4 great nations copied his ideals and system..
 

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He grew up in war so he can't be stupid.
 
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