Hashirama is just another Hanzo.

[Phoenix110]

Apperently people think hashirama is a weak shinobi so they think they can make idiotic threads like this.this thread is really demeaning as far as am is concerned.

 

[x9lb babynaruto]

Thank you, i completely agree with you man. We have way too many hashirama fake fanboys after what madara said. We've only SEEN HIM IN ACTION ONCE AND HE GOT OWNED BY OLD HIRUZEN. You can say blah blah blah he was being controlled by imperfect edo tensei," but be that as it may that's the only solid source of actual fighting we've seen in the entire series but if madara said hiruzen was a transgendered elephant bandwagon fanbpys would believe. How sad.

 

[MystNin13]

Im tired of so many people trying to prove that Hashirama was weak and this is the weakest arguement ive seen. He's a top 5 shinobi easily. And Hanzo took on all three Sannin by himself so give him a lil credit... :noc:

 

[markdabomb22]

lol gratz again two hottest threads lol xd

 

[ulqui0rra]

. He had help from Mito in there final battle and he barly won.

wake up kid

u guys sought manga proof all the time ,
and here is just ur imagination

 

[akimofnevis]

Just like how Jiraya talked about Hanzo thats exactly what Madara is doing with Hashirama.

Hashirama is not as strong as everyone thinks. He had help from Mito in there final battle and he barly won.

Inb4 scan of Kabuto's hype.

Spoiler

The word "anymore" is the keyword. Meaning there were shinobi on his level that are now dead.

Inb4 misconception of Madaras hype.

Spoiler

He was only reffering to Perfect Susanoo to answer Tsunades question

Good Day. :ice:

hanzo is strong he just was no match for pain

 

[icewarya]

we can put it this way... we don't know a lot about him so we can assume he is weak:shrug:

but by the hype that we receive from everybody else we just can't


so hashi is just great cause of the hype..

 

[Jukain]

I totally agree

 

[ricotyrone]

No see I'm bored and who said this was a troll thred. :ice: If you wanna discuss my personal agendas you can take it to my vm.



I'm positive they were jounin.



Hanzo was also legendary. He rained over a whole continent until Nagato killed him.

it was a country, not a continent, and a very small one at that
now I won't say he wasn't powerful and he was, but he still needed the help of Danzo to capture Yahiko's crew

 

[ricotyrone]

I'd have to say that apparently you all missed where Madara quite simply stated when he was fighting the kage that if Hashirama was there to fight then the maps would have to redrawn due to the damage both he and Madara would cause while fighting, and if Madara alone can blow a mountain off the map without trying then we can only speculate at the damage both would due if they were giving it their all. So I don't believe that he's had enough hype

 

[Scryed]

Infinite Darkness Jutsu belonged to the Second Hokage didn't it?
Just saying that, I'm not having any hand in this argument.. Because Hashirama's feats haven't been completely seen.......

Did it? Well if it did, I wasn't aware of that. Not sure whether Hashirama has it or not then. The Flower Tree World by itself is troublesome to deal with without trying not to inhale the pollen though. You're right about his feats so I could only speculate from what he's shown and what others showed through his abilities.

 

[Scryed]

even if madara was only talking about perfect susano, its his strongest tech and if hashirama can beat madaras strongest tech, then he can beat any other weaker attacks in his arsenal. hashirama is underrated. people say crap like sasuke or temari could beat him and get butthurt when kishi hypes him. people think madara would take him out with meteors and mokuton despite hashirama beating perfect susano which makes the rest of the techs in edo madaras arsenal look like childs play.

Techniques have different strengths and weaknesses. His Perfect Susanoo is massive and has power that Bijuu can compare to but it's not like the rest of his techs are exactly the same.

For example: Preta Path could absorb Susanoo but it's open to physical attacks while Susanoo would make physical attacks seem like someone is just throwing flowers at it. Mokuton could counter a Susanoo user by reaching for the user himself and keeping him away from it. However, if Mokuton gets within range of Preta Path, the chakra will be sucked out of it and the wood would just remain.

Perfect Susanoo is Madara's strongest technique but Madara's Preta Path could still destabilize it simply because it has a strength against it. Although it holds a strength against chakra, it holds a weakness against physical attacks since it can't absorb them but Susanoo could withstand them.

Different strengths and weaknesses that could be used for different situations.

 

[JasonTheArgonaut]

hashi is just another weakling in the path of the uchiha

 

[Koha]

Did it? Well if it did, I wasn't aware of that. Not sure whether Hashirama has it or not then. The Flower Tree World by itself is troublesome to deal with without trying not to inhale the pollen though. You're right about his feats so I could only speculate from what he's shown and what others showed through his abilities.

+rep for admitting you're using speculations. Most fans just overexamine his power and hype him as such since he was truly on seen in one fight in the entire series, we know his techniques, but do we even know his battle strategies, his weaknesses, his limitations? Everybody just piles massive S-Rank Jutsu upon Jutsu in his advantage not even knowing in what manner or situations he would use his techniques in...
Which is why I call irrelevance on most people who argue on behalf and against Hashirama. He was sealed by a decrepit old man. So, that's actually saying something... But I won't judge against that either, not because the Edo Tensei was imperfect but the plot made it so Orochimaru's power was most focused upon.