hashirama is automatically second strongest without a debate.

[iKaras]

Hashi can make an entire spore-filled forest in seconds and toss a chakra eating wood dragon or two to venture into it...

Y'all think he need to pull out a damn towering 1000 hand statue??? For what?

 

[Ababeel]

Dies before it gets half way through due to chakra exhaustion.

he was not exhausted when he teleported much bigger jutsu.

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[kotoamatsukami]

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Thanks for the laugh

 

[Waltz]

Lol izanami was for those who used izanagi and could not accept their fate that why it worked on kabuto he was trying to be someone else (orochimaru) and was not accepting his own fate all you have to do inorder to brake out is to accept your fate..I thought you would know this...meaning that genjutsu would have no effect on the 1st hokage.

Izanami is made for people

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; Hashirama doesn't run away from his destiny. For example, in Kabuto's case, he was trying to be someone else, but if he were to accept his destiny and be himself, then the izanami ends. Thus this jutsu does not work against Hashirama.

The Genjutsu works by using your opponents senses [

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The jutsu was created to control the Uchiha abusers of Izanagi and the mere fact that it was used on Kabuto highlights the fact that it can be used outside of it's intended purpose. What one must accept as their destiny varies per individual, however it is solely determined by Itachi [

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[kotoamatsukami]

The Genjutsu works by using your opponents senses [

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The jutsu was created to control the Uchiha abusers of Izanagi and the mere fact that it was used on Kabuto highlights the fact that it can be used outside of it's intended purpose. What one must accept as their destiny varies per individual, however it is solely determined by Itachi [

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Like we already said the jutsu not working on the 1st hokage it only works on thoes who don't accept their fate..

Itachi himself that its dangerous to use in a fight cuz it can be escaped

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[Draegod]

Lol like I said to someone else once those coffins come up he will use "sage art:great gates of god" and hold them in place easily...hashirama is god to those normal people...and his statue would get rid of all them won't give them time to really form no jutsu at all.

Didnt know Sage mode was instant and faster then EDO coffins, let alone the gates being called upon then used. Cool story that he can do that. lmao

Kabuto>>.Nagato

 

[kotoamatsukami]

Didnt know Sage mode was instant and faster then EDO coffins, let alone the gates being called upon then used. Cool story that he can do that. lmao

Kabuto>>.Nagato

Um do you not read manga he enters sage mode very fast actually

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and it only takes one hand sign to call on the gates an they also drop fast an they are really big so the edo really won't have time to escape lol just face it they are regular human fighting against a god..lol do you realize how tiny they are to his thousand hands statue lol it's not really fair.

Lol at least you tried to prove your point in saying kabuto would win but he won't..GG

 

[KingHashirama]

Not even close! If you start by your self and with a blood contract summon a frog/turtle/monkey/slug/snake/ninja then its fair game. Simple as that. You and others can choose to make up BullS.H.I.T to make you feel better all you would like. But its Manga and databook Fact it is a JUTSU. And in a Fight,
JUTSU ARE ALLOWED NO MATTER HOW BROKEN OR UNFAIR THEY ARE! unless stated otherwise in restrictions

This is the reason I can't take most of you users serious because you make no sense and pull BS to make you think you are right.

Clearly you do not know what a 1 vs 1 is or you either don't know what a Summoning jutsu is. No one is saying summoning jutsu isn't fair... the ability to transport someone your location is neutral.... And now you made up your opinion of "Jutsu are allow no matter how broke or unfair they are". Why are they allowed? Because it is the person's power. But we aren't talking about the jutsu now are we. =]. We are talking about the people called upon by the jutsu.. Hell Hashirama's wood clones can go call the clans.. still would be the samething as using your own power to call upon them.


You blame others.. yet you follow the illogical statement used by most members... go wonder. "Making up BS".. okkk. An Edo ARMY can be Kabuto's power.. But a living ARMY can't be part of their leader's powers.. even though they fear and are controlled by their leader.. really?


And on top of that you are ignoring the character's own opinion regarding his strength compared to someone else.

 

[siyo]

-Kabuto
-Orochimaru
-Current Madara
-Naruto

All up there with him.Some obviously stronger based on feats.

The EDO zombies belong to the respective Edo Tensei users. They are legit summons. Arguing otherwise is arguing against canon. It's no different than Sasori's puppets, some of them with bloodlines, so I had suggest moving on and accept the facts even if it means accepting Hashirama's inferiority in these battles .

 

[Made in Heaven]

I agree .

 

[kotoamatsukami]

-Kabuto
-Orochimaru
-Current Madara
-Naruto

All up there with him.Some obviously stronger based on feats.

The EDO zombies belong to the respective Edo Tensei users. They are legit summons. Arguing otherwise is arguing against canon. It's no different than Sasori's puppets, some of them with bloodlines, so I had suggest moving on and accept the facts even if it means accepting Hashirama's inferiority in these battles .

Why put oro name in this explain?...kabuto can have his edo but not madara cuz he is on his own contract now..kabuto can't beat hashirama even with edo tensi.

 

[stoikis]

Why put oro name in this explain?...kabuto can have his edo but not madara cuz he is on his own contract now..kabuto can't beat hashirama even with edo tensi.

Don't be stupid.Kabuto with edo army is the strongest character except obito.Besides kabuto already said that he can neutralize mokuton thank;s to his poison or something like that.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

Don't be stupid.Kabuto with edo army is the strongest character except obito.Besides kabuto already said that he can neutralize mokuton thank;s to his poison or something like that.

Yea he can neutralize it by putting some type of poison in the mokuton user which he will never get close to hashirama so that goes out the window..kabuto not beating hashirama sorry well he has a good chance.