Hashirama Is at blame? O_o

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So apparently, Hashirama is indirectly at blame for Madara escaping his death somehow. Hashirama is also the reason the Uchiha got screwed. Hashirama is also the reason Madara is here today.






Is it just me or do you guys see something wrong those statements also? So Is Hashirama at blame? Is all this crap Hashirama's fault? If this is Hashirama's fault, wouldn't that make that make the whole thing SO6P's fault?
 

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Hashirama did his job. Attacked his friend with the intention of killing him, and Madara pulled some plot-magic to save his ass.

Hashirama is completely blameless in my eyes. By the way, are you basing this on Sasuke's words of "The hokages caused all this?" Because if you are, don't worry... Sasuke was just a little drunk.
 

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Yes it's all his fault, he should be thankful Itachi fixed all of his mistakes.
 

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if u mean thread 1 thread the guy did state that all the kages are "partially" to blame


But my Op Madara and tobiramam are both Mianly at fault they both caused this and should have listened to Hashi.
 

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Hashirama did his job. Attacked his friend with the intention of killing him, and Madara pulled some plot-magic to save his ass.

Hashirama is completely blameless in my eyes. By the way, are you basing this on Sasuke's words of "The hokages caused all this?" Because if you are, don't worry... Sasuke was just a little drunk.
Nah man, we had a whole debate about this, so just want to know other's opinions.


this is

HASHIRAMA'S FAULT!!!!
LMAOOO ! xD
 

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Basically it all was the so6p fault for having two kids
 

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Everyone is liable for their own actions.... So 4th SWW is Madara's and Obito's fault.... =D =D
 

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It's not a big deal if Hashirama made a mistake. It's still his fault for not making sure Madara was dead.
 

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Yes it's all his fault, he should be thankful Itachi fixed all of his mistakes.
Itachi is the one who killed the Uchiha o_O.


if u mean thread 1 thread the guy did state that all the kages are "partially" to blame


But my Op Madara and tobiramam are both Mianly at fault they both caused this and should have listened to Hashi.
"Partially" blame is still blame lol. So how exactly is it Hashirama's fault that those 2 didn't listen to him? I mean lets be honest, If everyone had just listened to the first hokage, we wouldn't have all this crap going on.
It's not a big deal if Hashirama made a mistake. It's still his fault for not making sure Madara was dead.

But he did Make sure he was dead... that is why he said "i was certain"... I mean your going to blame sollely Hashirama for that.. why no blame Mito? And rest of the village for not making sure?
 

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He should have smacked tobi in the face and never should have said madara u deserve to be hokage
 

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But he did Make sure he was dead... that is why he said "i was certain"... I mean your going to blame sollely Hashirama for that.. why no blame Mito? And rest of the village for not making sure?

There's his mistake, he thought Madara was dead but he actually wasn't. It is a pretty big deal since Madara's the one who organised the Juubi's revival and one of the reason Sasuke is blaming the Hokages. He's directly responsible for this situation.
 

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Not one single person is to blame for the current events.
 

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He should have smacked tobi in the face and never should have said madara u deserve to be hokage

He did ask Madara to be his right hand, and knew that if Madara changed people would want the next strongest thing to be Hokage. o-o

There's his mistake, he thought Madara was dead but he actually wasn't. It is a pretty big deal since Madara's the one who organised the Juubi's revival and one of the reason Sasuke is blaming the Hokages. He's directly responsible for this situation.

Incorrect, we don't know how Madara escaped his death.... If something that hadn't let him escape his death, then Hashirama would've been right that he was dead. So you really call that Hashirama's mistake, even though there is a outside factor to why Madara survived. Sure If it was just Hashirama and Madara... I would've agreed... but with a outside factor I have to disagree.

He organized it..... true, but who is the one who helped Obito? Sasuke Uchiha.
 
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Nope. I agree with you. Hashirama did his job. He would have been indirectly to blame if he would have straight up let Madara go. However, at VoTE, he did everything in his power to kill him.

It's not like Tobirama and Hiruzen, who have a fair portion of blame. Hashirama and Minato did nothing (Minato mainly because you could blink and miss his reign).
 

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Hashirama and Madara are the root cause of everything.
 

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Its Rikudo Senin's fault too.... its all because he had ***. Rikudo Senin y u no stay vergin for NV????
 
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