Hashirama has technically become a power up lol

[cptenn94]

Hiruzen did not beat Hashirama, he fought and defeated an edo, edo ninja are not as effective as the original, that is a fact.

it depends on the character...edo bad guys are MORE effective than the original hence madara who wouldve died many times ( playing or not he still had to regrow) without being an edo vs the 5 kages....hiruzen beat an hashi that was fully controlled by orochimaru, and controlling them is like being a puppeter because you control all they do...you cant just do imput commands and watch them perform...so we watched madara do some op flower forest jutsu with his hashi dna make 25 op wood clones as well......hashi when he fought hiruzen didnt do either of these abilities and just made a forest.....that wasnt very big...


but to the thread hashi is deffinatly now a power up one day in the narutoverse all shinobi willl have mokuton.....the way people keep getting his dna...

 

[Forbidden Twilight]

it depends on the character...edo bad guys are MORE effective than the original hence madara who wouldve died many times ( playing or not he still had to regrow) without being an edo vs the 5 kages....hiruzen beat an hashi that was fully controlled by orochimaru, and controlling them is like being a puppeter because you control all they do...you cant just do imput commands and watch them perform...so we watched madara do some op flower forest jutsu with his hashi dna make 25 op wood clones as well......hashi when he fought hiruzen didnt do either of these abilities and just made a forest.....that wasnt very big...


but to the thread hashi is deffinatly now a power up one day in the narutoverse all shinobi willl have mokuton.....the way people keep getting his dna...

He surely is being used as one. The question i want to now is how he will come back if he can. Maybe Yamato will be a body of some sort.