Hashirama even more god level...?

[Multiply]

I don't know if I'm taking this the right now, it's 2 AM, let your boy rant though...

So is Kishi essentially telling us that Hashirama could use all 5 of the elements too? I mean, spiral zetsu just showed out with all 5 of them like it was nothing:

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At first I was like, wow he added those faces to shinsusenju. Then I thought about it and decided to run that back a second. Hashirama's had those exact same faces...:

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Now unless I'm mistaken, I doubt Hashirama just had them there for show. Then spiral zetsu randomly uses them to shoot jutsu out of them? Nah, forget that. Hashirama might have all 5 affinities as well... Please tell me I'm wrong... Someone...

 

[LegendaryAce]

All 3 god of shinobi seem to have this box of 5 or more affinities down.

 

[Minator93]

Hashirama's Shinsusenjuu is FAR bigger than what Zetsu pulled U_U

 

[kunde]

If hiruzen can use all 5 elements then why can't hashirama? . .He was considered to be fairy tail jus like Rikudou. .

 

[Tayhlor Uchiha]

more importantly who is inside spiral zetsu ?

 

[Multiply]

If hiruzen can use all 5 elements then why can't hashirama? . .He was considered to be fairy tail jus like Rikudou. .

I don't know... But honestly, don't you think Hashirama has enough yet? he has been getting upgraded since the second he was revived... He shook up Sasuke and Orochimaru just by raising his chakra level...

Hashirama's Shinsusenjuu is FAR bigger than what Zetsu pulled U_U

DYou're actually right about that... Shit dude.

 

[Souji]

Hashirama may require Shisuusenju to use all 5. This is already impressive, but the fact that Hiruzen can do it without any other external help other than Shadow Clones makes Hiruzen's capabilities more SKILLED than Hashirama's.

But I agree, the God of Shinobi tend to have this common ability to bring forth elemental natures.

However I believe Hashirama can't do it on his own... he would need Sage Mode and Shisuusenju...

 

[LegendaryAce]

Now i am just wondering since zetsu summoned the shinsusenju and it look far much smaller than the one hashirama summoned?

1. Does it vary on how much chakra you have ?
2. Can you summon a bunch of smaller shinsusenju?

i mean could hashirama summon a much bigger one if he wanted?

 

[Flawž]

Yea Shinshuusenju is able to use all 5 abilities.

Hashirama's was way larger than this one.

 

[kunde]

I don't know... But honestly, don't you think Hashirama has enough yet? he has been getting upgraded since the second he was revived... He shook up Sasuke and Orochimaru just by raising his chakra level...


DYou're actually right about that... Shit dude.

I dont think it's enough though. . i think it's merely a justification from kishi's side on senju's being stronger than uchiha's anyday. . i personally wanted to know why senju's were stronger than uchiha's throughout the series. .now i know why. .

 

[Champ]

Yeah, but Spiral Zetsu is smaller than the Original. I wonder if base Hashirama can make the same one Spiral zetsu can, if so Kishi is steady showing us why Hashirama is above all other Kage..

 

[Multiply]

I dont think it's enough though. . i think it's merely a justification from kishi's side on senju's being stronger than uchiha's anyday. . i personally wanted to know why senju's were stronger than uchiha's throughout the series. .now i know why. .

That's what I wanted to know too. I was so confused as to why the senju shit on the Uchiha to the point they actually wanted to stop fighting... Now we know why... This in my mind just makes me think that Hashirama appeased Madara at VoTE... Based on the abilities of EMS Madara and of SM Hashirama, Hashirama literally could have fodderized him... The only problem being PS, which was dealt with in one move...

 

[Ahmed1993]

Until Hashi shows that he can do it , he can't U_U

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Here's what I think:

Hashirama:
-Bigger
-More hand
-Suppresses chakra each hit?

Zetu version:
-Smaller
-Less hands
-Suppresses charka each hit?
- DIFFERENT CAP/HAT that produce elements


If you look carfully they head part, hat part/cap, it created was different then the original:

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Then look at this:

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[End of Days]

I wouldn't be so sure of it, I think the spiral zetsu is drawing the power of rinnegan, obito has one rinnegan and black zetsu said he would use him,
If the spiral zetsu has chakra rods he can borrow the power from obito's rinnegan since he too has those rods inside him

 

[Multiply]

Here's what I think:

Hashirama:
-Bigger
-More hand
-Suppresses chakra each hit?

Zetu version:
-Smaller
-Less hands
-Suppresses charka each hit?
- DIFFERENT CAP/HAT that produce elements


If you look carfully they head part, hat part/cap, it created was different then the original:

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Then look at this:

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That's actually a really good find. I honestly think that's more of Kishi not completely thinking out the details of how he wanted this ending to go down. However, you might be absolutely right.

 

[kunde]

That's what I wanted to know too. I was so confused as to why the senju shit on the Uchiha to the point they actually wanted to stop fighting... Now we know why... This in my mind just makes me think that Hashirama appeased Madara at VoTE... Based on the abilities of EMS Madara and of SM Hashirama, Hashirama literally could have fodderized him... The only problem being PS, which was dealt with in one move...

In fact madara wouldn't have been stronger than his EMS self if not for senju DNA(Hashi precisely). .Hashirama is the only reason behind madara's current power level and yet hashirama has a jutsu to stop him. . which is why hashi is just...........

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[Bronze]

No I don't think so. All of the Zetsu are experiments. Experiments differ from what they were created from. Not to mention their creation was involving Madara's Yin Yang Ninjutsu and Gedo Mazo. Until Hashirama shows it or was stated to be capable of using it, we can give him the feat.

 

[LEAU92]

Or that the reason spriral zetsu has all 5 elements is a reflection of the Rinnegan Madara has. Remember that a rinnegan user is able to use all 5 element natures (Jiraiya stated this during his fight with pain). Spiral Zetsu may be using Hashirama's accumilated senjutsu chakra on top of madara's rinnegan and acting as a medium just like Nagato used his six paths of pain.