Hashirama does not compare

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Even hashi is afraid of hiruzen xd
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these threads really need to stop
 

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This will settle the arguments:

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3rd hokage can't stop a full powered susano'o like Hashirama can.

Hashirama has the direct bloodline of the So6P, his energy, charka and life force are far greater than Hiruzen's

as far as we know hashi didnt eithere boy
 

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CTFU! Hashirama wood release is perfect against big monsters like susanoo and bijuu because his wood release tends to BIND THINGS...
 

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Some of you people take the previous generations thing too far, Madara's susano is as strong as a bijuu Hiruzen is nothing compared to them.

Exactly. Because we all know anko is better than orochimaru right? Or that kakashi is better than minato right? Or maybe that Sakura is better than kakashi right? The whole next generation thing is bull. Madara lived what... 100 or so years ago? And he's still stomping all of these newer generation chumps. According to the next generation bull, everyone alive should be 200% better than madara.
 

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Exactly. Because we all know anko is better than orochimaru right? Or that kakashi is better than minato right? Or maybe that Sakura is better than kakashi right? The whole next generation thing is bull. Madara lived what... 100 or so years ago? And he's still stomping all of these newer generation chumps. According to the next generation bull, everyone alive should be 200% better than madara.

MADARA has RINNEGAN and hashi dna ems madara have been done for at the very start of there fight so next generation > previous one
 

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CTFU! Hashirama wood release is perfect against big monsters like susanoo and bijuu because his wood release tends to BIND THINGS...

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Who said hiruzen wasnt good against big things like susanoo? Here, again this is itachi begging for mercy against hiruzen who hasnt even taken off his hokage robe.
 

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MADARA has RINNEGAN and hashi dna ems madara have been done for at the very start of there fight so next generation > previous one

Please. He's used the rinnegan 2/3 times for absorption ONLY in a 5 against 1 battle against the 5 kages. 1v1 he would kill ANYONE alive.
 

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Who said hiruzen wasnt good against big things like susanoo? Here, again this is itachi begging for mercy against hiruzen who hasnt even taken off his hokage robe.

Good try, but he's asking him to spare sasuke... :sy:
 

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Who said hiruzen wasnt good against big things like susanoo? Here, again this is itachi begging for mercy against hiruzen who hasnt even taken off his hokage robe.

hehehheheh
 

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new gen surpasses the old one?

so i guess choji will eventually surpass madara too?

Yes. He will. Chouji is a lot closer than some of the others. Read the manga dude. Its one of Kishi's biggest things he stands for. Most of the entire Naruto series is based on how a new generation shall surpass the next. Plus why couldn't Hiruzen beat Madara? People keep talking like MAdara is a god (Edo Madara is pretty close because he can just keep dying and reappearing, and spam as much chakra as needed, also Kabuto made him better than he was in his prime. Ie the examples I gave) So an alive Madara would not be as godly as he is now. Which means Hashirama was not AS ridiculous as people say. ya, He could make forests and heal himself without seals. so He looked more like a myth. But Hashirama sure as hell didnt live as long as Hiruzen. Hiruzen in his prime def could've handled a susanoo. Where is my proof? I think it is pretty self explanatory. Hiruzen was incredible, even in his old years. To deny that and say he wasn't incredible is to be a dumb ass. He was the 3rd Hokage. Not to mention he was the only shinobi to attain the title of "God of Shinobi" (other than the sage of the six paths) He had very strong Jutsus (Earth, Fire, and possibly more since his son had wind) He was quick, wields the Great Monkey King Enma. People Keep underestimating the Sarutobi Clan. Everybody gets worse in their older years. Thats life. He was trained by the 1st and the 2nd! I bet he could've smashed through susanoo with Enma in his staff form. Controlling the right amount of chakra. We're talking about the same guy who trained Jiraiya, Tsunade, and Orochimaru. I'm just saying man, in his prime... Hiruzen was probably one super fast, super strong little monkey of a man. I'd say his only real weakness was his compassion for humans, and Love for his students. If he would've had a little more resolve against Oro in the Part 1. I think he would've murked him no questions asked. :ghehe:
 
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