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so basically having hashirama dna via zetsu clones ment nothing all this time? also obito said he couldn't handle both of madaras eyes cuz he would have died... why was negato able to handle them for about 25 - 30 yrs? so ororchimaru getting into a zetsu clone body actually makes him weaker now?

zetsu clones are weak ass hell!! who would really want an army like that...
 

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Nagato was able to handle it because he was an Uzumaki with immense chakra and life force.

Also Kaguya's clones will be stronger, because they are made with the power of the Shinju, rather than the Gedo.
 

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Kaguya's clones are probably going to be a lot stronger than Madara's.

 

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im still having a hard time sinking in the fact that zetsus are not hashirama clones :( lol

however it does make better sense than to litter the world with dead hashi-clones...

free hashirama dna anyone?:3
 

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Nagato was able to handle it because he was an Uzumaki with immense chakra and life force.

Also Kaguya's clones will be stronger, because they are made with the power of the Shinju, rather than the Gedo.
yea but obito has hashi dna and could use mokuton and all that... shouldn't that boost his life force tremendously?
 

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yea but obito has hashi dna and could use mokuton and all that... shouldn't that boost his life force tremendously?

Nagato was born that way, which makes it more potent.

Mokuton has nothing to do with being able to handle rinnegan.
 

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nagato had a hard time controlling both eye...as we already seen it when he start using the power of the eyes,his face changed alot...and lost a lot of his lifeforce
 

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Plot hole. Plot holes everywhere lol
 

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I guess Nagato had it so long he didnt feel the effect anymore. He was always a troubled kid on the edge of insanity because of the war. I would say his uzumaki heritage and his FRIENDS kept him anchored. Considering he went completely NUTS when yahiko was killed
 

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so basically having hashirama dna via zetsu clones ment nothing all this time? also obito said he couldn't handle both of madaras eyes cuz he would have died... why was negato able to handle them for about 25 - 30 yrs? so ororchimaru getting into a zetsu clone body actually makes him weaker now?

zetsu clones are weak ass hell!! who would really want an army like that...

Nagato was an uchiha and so he naturally has a strong life force and large chakra amount. Nagato, even though it has nothing to do with not being an uzamaki, probably didnt have the life force to handle both, also we have to keep in mind that nagato had them since he was a child, so his body was more able to adapt to them, while obito had it only from the time with konan.

Orochimaru wasnt weaker. Hashirama DNA helps people gain control over various jutsu, Danzo used hashi dna to shorten the time for KA, and to be able to implant sharingan in his hands, madara and obito used it to gain better control over the juubi, orochimaru himself used it to strengthen his control over the Edos that he knew he could not control if they were brought back at 100% of there original strength. I dont believe madara made 100,000 zetzu clones, I believe those clones were the remnants from the first time IT was casted. Madara probably just implanted them with hashirama dna, becuase the fact that the zetzu contained kaguyas will, and was able to take control of black zetzu. If they were his original beings then I doubt it would have went that way. But I already know the counter argument is, "kaguyas will was in the gedo duh, her zetzu will be stronger, blah, blah".
 

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Nagato was an uchiha and so he naturally has a strong life force and large chakra amount. Nagato, even though it has nothing to do with not being an uzamaki, probably didnt have the life force to handle both, also we have to keep in mind that nagato had them since he was a child, so his body was more able to adapt to them, while obito had it only from the time with konan.

Orochimaru wasnt weaker. Hashirama DNA helps people gain control over various jutsu, Danzo used hashi dna to shorten the time for KA, and to be able to implant sharingan in his hands, madara and obito used it to gain better control over the juubi, orochimaru himself used it to strengthen his control over the Edos that he knew he could not control if they were brought back at 100% of there original strength. I dont believe madara made 100,000 zetzu clones, I believe those clones were the remnants from the first time IT was casted. Madara probably just implanted them with hashirama dna, becuase the fact that the zetzu contained kaguyas will, and was able to take control of black zetzu. If they were his original beings then I doubt it would have went that way. But I already know the counter argument is, "kaguyas will was in the gedo duh, her zetzu will be stronger, blah, blah".
I see... so they do have a lil hashirama in them... I pretty much did a lil Chihuahua back flip when orochimaru body swapped with the white zetsu at the time of the hokage revival lol

but now that we know zetsus weren't created using hashi dna it makes oros body swap seem... insignificant :(
 

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Nagato was an uchiha and so he naturally has a strong life force and large chakra amount. Nagato, even though it has nothing to do with not being an uzamaki, probably didnt have the life force to handle both, also we have to keep in mind that nagato had them since he was a child, so his body was more able to adapt to them, while obito had it only from the time with konan.

Orochimaru wasnt weaker. Hashirama DNA helps people gain control over various jutsu, Danzo used hashi dna to shorten the time for KA, and to be able to implant sharingan in his hands, madara and obito used it to gain better control over the juubi, orochimaru himself used it to strengthen his control over the Edos that he knew he could not control if they were brought back at 100% of there original strength. I dont believe madara made 100,000 zetzu clones, I believe those clones were the remnants from the first time IT was casted. Madara probably just implanted them with hashirama dna, becuase the fact that the zetzu contained kaguyas will, and was able to take control of black zetzu. If they were his original beings then I doubt it would have went that way. But I already know the counter argument is, "kaguyas will was in the gedo duh, her zetzu will be stronger, blah, blah".
Nagato wasn't a Uchiha and him being able to have the rinnegan was because he was Uzamaki which gave him large chakra reserves , What are you talking about :|
 
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