Hashirama>Any Ninja

[Ababeel]

No. Hashi is NOT stronger than any shinobi!
I think he's rather overrated.

 

[dark legion]

we know about Uchiha , more than we know about Senju....
Hashirama must have secrets that made him God of Shinobi ... If we say Juubito isn't a human then Hashi>any Zzz

 

[toviasrepier]

Madara stomps Hashirama at his current state, not to mention he will shitstomp Hashi once he gets his other rinnegan.

What do you expect he has hashiriods. He wont event achieve it w/out that!!!

 

[ANiMUS]

Madara w/ Rinnengan > Hashirama

 

[Fresco]

I'd say Rinnegan Obito with Gedo Mazo and his Bijuu takes them.

 

[xnejix2]

basically..haha

 

[KidGamer65]

These are the only people who can defeat Hashirama.

-Current Madara, every other version loses.

-Juubito, every other version loses.

-Rikudo, clearly.

 

[VongolaX]

@bold, this thread explains what these are:

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Rikodou technoques and Gedo Maz was impossible for him to summon at age 13 was impossible for Obito since he did not have Rinnegan, and Rinnegan is need to summon Gedo Mazo and use Rikudou techniques.

Kamui? I'm sure he's already seen it while fighting Madara, Kakashi nor Obito made the jutsu themselves you know.

Inyouton is yin yang techniques, there different types.

One of them happens to be inzangi, only the complete version though.

On a higher level, omyoudon (required juubi)

Uchiha kinjustu-forbidden uchiha techniques...
Such as uchiha flame wall (used on Gedo).

Did you read chapter 606, pages 14, 15, and 16?

He can use rikudou techniques just by being uchiha and senju blood.

But he has to use the black rod for them

Example: Preta that was used on the first hokage's sagemode.

Gedo is the same as the rikudou technique:

If you want to see Tobi summon Gedo before the he got the rinnegan

Look for the chapter were he was extracting the eight tails.

Nagato was fighting naruto, Tobi summoned the statue to extract the eightails
With zetsu and kisame.

 

[China IL]

I get the feeling that to avoid simply saying how much stronger madara is youre just saying edo hashi is capped which hes really not

The Madara that took Hashi SM is not stronger than Hashirama alive. Current Madara is obviously transcendent now that he also has SM and complete control of Rinnegan. So current Madara isn't a ninja anymore, he's transcendant.

 

[genii96]

@Bold. No, just no. Nagato gets wrecked. Kabuto and Orochimaru beat him only due to Edo Tensei.

@On-Topic. Only Madara and Obito beat him.​

how does he get wrecked exactly?.
CT ends it.
Last time i checked edo tensei was their jutsu,it is like saying hashi wins only because of moukton,so they beat him.
Juubito and madara are not debatable.

Oh yea,forgot shushi and danzo via KA,no defence to that,or is there?

 

[China IL]

Inyouton is yin yang techniques, there different types.

One of them happens to be inzangi, only the complete version though.

On a higher level, omyoudon (required juubi)

Uchiha kinjustu-forbidden uchiha techniques...
Such as uchiha flame wall (used on Gedo).

Did you read chapter 606, pages 14, 15, and 16?

He can use rikudou techniques just by being uchiha and senju blood.

But he has to use the black rod for them

Example: Preta that was used on the first hokage's sagemode.

Gedo is the same as the rikudou technique:

If you want to see Tobi summon Gedo before the he got the rinnegan

Look for the chapter were he was extracting the eight tails.

Nagato was fighting naruto, Tobi summoned the statue to extract the eightails
With zetsu and kisame.

@bold 1. He said he'd teach him the techniques. If he had to teach them, that obviously means he knowns them as well. That just means that Hashirama countered them in their past fights. Therefore, that's useless aginst him. All Uchiha are defeated against Hashi. All of the following Uchiha use techniques no different than Madara, it's just weaker.

@bold 2. What Rikuou techniques did he use at age 13?

@bold 3. That's older and more grown up Obito, the younger him, 13 yo him, could not summon it yet.:

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[VongolaX]

@bold 1. He said he'd teach him the techniques. If he had to teach them, that obviously means he knowns them as well. That just means that Hashirama countered them in their past fights. Therefore, that's useless aginst him. All Uchiha are defeated against Hashi. All of the following Uchiha use techniques no different than Madara, it's just weaker.

@bold 2. What Rikuou techniques did he use at age 13?

@bold 3. That's older and more grown up Obito, the younger him, 13 yo him, could not summon it yet.:

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1. Uchiha flame wall held Gedo in place and deflected Hachibi, there are more than just one uchiha kinjustu. Madara never used them against Hashirama because the fight was to gain...not kill

2. Madara taught obito how to use the rikudou techniques through the black rod.

Which is correct, however just because he didn't want to use them...Doesn't mean he can't.

Like Hashirama didn't use tree world in the manga right? So he can't use his own Justu now?

If madara has shown using rikudou techniques (preta) through the black rods, and without the rinnegan than

It is sufficient enough for obito as well. <---His student.

3. That scan of obito is 13 years old.

Swirl zetsu made him look taller

The older obito had shorter hair with a black scar mask.

After he grew his hair out again, he had the black pattern mask.

Chapter 606 was only a few months, he can still use all those techniques at a young age too.


Grown up obito existed when yahiko died.

 

[Ababeel]

Who can defeat Hashirama.

The sage and his family.
Madara, obito, BSM Naruto, BM Minato, and Kabuto with ET!

 

[VongolaX]

how does he get wrecked exactly?.
CT ends it.
Last time i checked edo tensei was their jutsu,it is like saying hashi wins only because of moukton,so they beat him.
Juubito and madara are not debatable.

Oh yea,forgot shushi and danzo via KA,no defence to that,or is there?

Hashirama's gate seal pinned down the strongest Edo Madara <--the strongest Edo tensei

Ct gets crushed by wooden golem, he'll balm it like he did 100% kurama ttb and hurl it at him.

 

[genii96]

Hashirama's gate seal pinned down the strongest Edo Madara <--the strongest Edo tensei

Ct gets crushed by wooden golem, he'll balm it like he did 100% kurama ttb and hurl it at him.

you obviously do not know what CT is,by the time he gets close to it,jhe and any wooden structure would be ripped to pieces. Plus the orb is at the sky.

Immobilizing madara dosent mean he is stronger than everyone else. Gaara and shukaku immobilized alive madara who easily broke hashi's seal,does that make them above hashi?,no.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Madara/Juubito are not ninjas anymore, they have ascended to gods

Can they die? Do they ise ninjutsu? They are ninjas and hashirama is 6/7th strongest. After madara obito shisu/itachi and sasuke since he shall surpass madara. Orochimaru can use snake lke kabuto and supress mokuton so he pawns too. A lava user with good chakra reserves is a bad match up too.

 

[Oblivionx]

13 year old Obito after meeting Madara beats Hashirama������

With his newly added powers (thanks to senju DNA)

Rikudou techniques
Inyouton
Uchiha kinjustu
Gedo no Justu
Kamui

Would be enough to beat Hashirama.

But if uses kurama, he'll only have enough chakra to use Kamui.

this....! obito and BM minato can defeat him too...!

 

[SasukeCurse]

Madara/Juubito are not ninjas anymore, they have ascended to gods

Dat max runescape account sig doe

 

[Bijuu13]

Kamui? I'm sure he's already seen it while fighting Madara, Kakashi nor Obito made the jutsu themselves you know.

thread no longer has any credibility

 

[Minator93]

These are the only people who can defeat Hashirama.

-Current Madara, every other version loses.

-Juubito, every other version loses.

-Rikudo, clearly.

Current Madara isn't beating a Full Powered SM Hashirama U_U