[VS] Hashirama and Tobirama vs The Akatsuki

[Leathercandle]

The roster of Akatsuki members includes:
-Konan, Pein, Itachi, Kisame, Deidara, Sasori, Kakuzu, Hidan, Tobi (pre war arc), and Zetsu.

It would be reasonable to assume that the Akatsuki members know Hashirama was a wood style user, and that Tobirama was a water style user, both proficient in their respective fields. Kakuzu and Hashirama have also fought in the past, so they have limited information about each other's techniques as well.

Intent: kill


Who wins?

Scenario 1:
Restrictions: None

Scenario 2:
Restrictions: Tsukuyomi

 

[Uverdore9]

Akatsuki. Itachi alone can solo these two. Totsuka Sword seals SS, Yata Shield reflects Chojo Kebutsu ; destroying SS with it's punches. Hashirama cannot break Itachi's Illusions which are potent enough to control from outside the sensor range and without being detected ; the whole Shinobi Alliance. Speed faster than KCM Naruto and Bee's reaction and hand speed.

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Hashirama nor Tobi comes close to that feat.





Pain brings out Gedo Dragons and demolishes the life sustained constructions effortlessly by absorbing it's chakra(Hashirama uses lifeforce to make wood into trees). Shinra Tensei reflects SS and Tobirama then uses a Ningendo to touch Hashirama by Asura Path being send towards him like a missile with engine propulsion. Chojo Kebutsu only surrounds one side, he can fly back and touch Hashi. Akatsuki have 4 people who can fly in the sky(Kakuzu with his thread warriors, Chikushodou, Deidara, Konan) Hashirama has no aerial attacks except God Gates which cannot be used on a mobile target from the fact he needed extra support by Naruto and others to hold Juubi back and cannot use another techniques in conjunction ; he had to focus all of his powers to maintain them.

















Tobirama is a no chance here ; Nagato, Kakuzu, Kisame, Itachi, Deidara(reaction speed) have high speeds more than Tobirama can match. Flying Gods Technique wouldnt be a problem when they can go aerial and have knowledge on his technique ; I assume they have right?

 

[Leathercandle]

Akatsuki. Itachi alone can solo these two. Totsuka Sword seals SS, Yata Shield reflects Chojo Kebutsu ; destroying SS with it's punches. Hashirama cannot break Itachi's Illusions which are potent enough to control from outside the sensor range and without being detected ; the whole Shinobi Alliance. Speed faster than KCM Naruto and Bee's reaction and hand speed.

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Hashirama nor Tobi comes close to that feat.





Pain brings out Gedo Dragons and demolishes the life sustained constructions effortlessly by absorbing it's chakra(Hashirama uses lifeforce to make wood into trees). Shinra Tensei reflects SS and Tobirama then uses a Ningendo to touch Hashirama by Asura Path being send towards him like a missile with engine propulsion. Chojo Kebutsu only surrounds one side, he can fly back and touch Hashi. Akatsuki have 4 people who can fly in the sky(Kakuzu with his thread warriors, Chikushodou, Deidara, Konan) Hashirama has no aerial attacks except God Gates which cannot be used on a mobile target from the fact he needed extra support by Naruto and others to hold Juubi back and cannot use another techniques in conjunction ; he had to focus all of his powers to maintain them.

















Tobirama is a no chance here ; Nagato, Kakuzu, Kisame, Itachi, Deidara(reaction speed) have high speeds more than Tobirama can match. Flying Gods Technique wouldnt be a problem when they can go aerial and have knowledge on his technique ; I assume they have right?

I edited in different scenarios. One with tsukuyomi allowed, one with it restricted

 

[salamander uchiha]

Akaktsuki win both scenarios

 

[Oblivionx]

Pain and tobi are main fighters here while itachi and kisame are good support. It can go either way but i think bros take it. Its mainly because tobirama will beat tobi and he is the biggest threat to hashirama.

 

[Uverdore9]

I edited in different scenarios. One with tsukuyomi allowed, one with it restricted

Edit doesnt make Hashirama look good nor does it to Tobirama though. Itachi's normal genjutsu can manipulate from long range without a top-notch sensor like Ao who sensed out KA and Obito's Jinchuuriki Genjutsu cannot see-through. It's OP asf.

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

Senju brothers wins.

 

[Leathercandle]

Edit doesnt make Hashirama look good nor does it to Tobirama though. Itachi's normal genjutsu can manipulate from long range without a top-notch sensor like Ao who sensed out KA and Obito's Jinchuuriki Genjutsu cannot see-through. It's OP asf.

Hashirama can break out of Itachi's non-Tsukuyomi genjutsu. To break out of a genjutsu, all you have to do is stop your flow of chakra, and then let it flow in large quantities. Hashirama's chakra reserves are huge, meaning he can do that easily. On top of that, he's a sensor. I think you're hyping Itachi a bit too much here. Can I see evidence that he can hit long range genjutsu, by the way?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

bringer of darkness drops everyone bar itachi and nagato, and then hashirama cleans them up with wood techs. Hashirama can possibly solo.

 

[Leathercandle]

bringer of darkness drops everyone bar itachi and nagato, and then hashirama cleans them up with wood techs. Hashirama can possibly solo.

Tobi would break out of it as well, but dude it's not hard to believe that they all know 'release' and if not, they know how to break out of an A ranked genjutsu in other ways (deep cuts, severe burns, biting their tongue off, etc).

But yes, Hashi can potentially solo in the scenario where Tsukuyomi is restricted.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Tobi would break out of it as well, but dude it's not hard to believe that they all know 'release' and if not, they know how to break out of an A ranked genjutsu in other ways (deep cuts, severe burns, biting their tongue off, etc).

But yes, Hashi can potentially solo in the scenario where Tsukuyomi is restricted.

Hiruzen knows kai release but him and his clones was still in it even when he got stabbed and beat the fck up. But you right about tobi tho, forgot about him

 

[Leathercandle]

Hiruzen knows kai release but him and his clones was still in it even when he got stabbed and beat the fck up. But you right about tobi tho, forgot about him

Oh I don't remember that. Did that happen in Orochimaru vs Hiruzen? Also I'm not sure if Sasori can be affected by genjutsu or not, I don't actually know/remember if he has a brain.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Oh I don't remember that. Did that happen in Orochimaru vs Hiruzen? Also I'm not sure if Sasori can be affected by genjutsu or not, I don't actually know/remember if he has a brain.

yep yep.

 

[Animegoin]

The Akatsuki can lose but it will be a battle: Nagato with his Paths of Pain, Itachi has the yata mirror, totsuka blade, Izanagi and Izanami, Deidara takes the sky, etc. The coolest thing about having Pain as an ally would be that even if one of them are killed, he can use the King of Hell (via the Naraka path) to revive fallen teammates. I’m not talking about Rinne-rebirth but the technique used by the king of hell when he chewed up the Asura Pain that had been destroyed and it later emerged healed. Anyway, Hashirama has deep forest bloom and deep forest emergence which could be repelled by Deva Pain’s Shinra Tensei. It could go on and on but I think, if coordinated accurately, the Akatsuki would win. Pain, Itachi and Obito are too OP.

 

[Uverdore9]

Hashirama can break out of Itachi's non-Tsukuyomi genjutsu. To break out of a genjutsu, all you have to do is stop your flow of chakra, and then let it flow in large quantities. Hashirama's chakra reserves are huge, meaning he can do that easily. On top of that, he's a sensor. I think you're hyping Itachi a bit too much here. Can I see evidence that he can hit long range genjutsu, by the way?

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[Rikudou Tobi]

Akatsuki wins still out numbered by a lot and they already have too much intel on them thanks to Kakazu and Zetsu.
To end this with minimal Itachi should be in the front line while all the defensive plays will support him in any means necessary to land that Tsukyomi.
Gedo mazou phantom dragon should be the second option and kamui should be ta bfr option.

If akatsuki doesn’t apply pressure with numbers against the senju bros. then Hashirama could release 1,000 armed kan’on in that fight which would lead to Deidara resorting to C3 to destroy the kan’on or C0 if he wants to destroy both the kan’on and Hashirama if Tobirama hasn’t marked Hashirama to pull him to safety. That or Pain could use shinra tensei wide scale to destroy the kan’on. But during that time they will need all the other akatsuki member to get pulled back and would need a fast akatsuki with transportation to drop Deidara near Hashirama to release his jutsu or Pain via 1 or 2 akatsuki playing defense while he prepares his jutsu of that magnitude.
Tobirama wouldn’t go near their because 1,000 armed kan’on is too large for Tobirama to transport with ftg or support so he would get out range so that he wouldn’t killed harmed by akatsuki’s jutsu or his brother’s jutsu.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Tobi would break out of it as well, but dude it's not hard to believe that they all know 'release' and if not, they know how to break out of an A ranked genjutsu in other ways (deep cuts, severe burns, biting their tongue off, etc).

But yes, Hashi can potentially solo in the scenario where Tsukuyomi is restricted.

just read that, no it makes 0 difference whether itachi can use tsukuyomi or not. It's a short range tech that has no hope on landing when it comes to a man that can merge with his greatest asset. You'll be lucky if you even see hashirama's clones let alone him.

 

[Leathercandle]

just read that, no it makes 0 difference whether itachi can use tsukuyomi or not. It's a short range tech that has no hope on landing when it comes to a man that can merge with his greatest asset. You'll be lucky if you even see hashirama's clones let alone him.

Wait what do you mean that Tsukuyomi doesn't matter against these two? Good point with the short range bit, but do you mean how Hashirama can merge with his wood and move through it or something (if he can do that)?

 

[MightGai]

Hashirama potentially solos them, adding tobirama to the match may be overkill.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Wait what do you mean that Tsukuyomi doesn't matter against these two? Good point with the short range bit, but do you mean how Hashirama can merge with his wood and move through it or something (if he can do that)?

Wood clones can fuse with wood. And as seen by madara(thats the real madara btw) you can fuse with wood:

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