Hashirama and Tobirama are not 100% related

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They are brothers....the reason to tobirama could not break the edo tensei is because orochimaru used HASHIRAMA's cells, hence why HASHIRAMA broke out of it.
 

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Third, Edo Tensei, hashirama has senju cells, and thus is able to have free reign of his will, while the others (tobirama, minato, and hiruzen) are all under Orochimarus control due to Hashirama cells!

Wouldnt you think if they were 100% brothers they'd at least have similar bodies? Or both have free reign?
maybe because he is the most powerful ... lol
 

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i am tired of people messing with tobirama

why cant he be a full senju
people here can be very mean to tobirama, he was a hero, he had honor, he had the will of fire
 

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there mother obviously is were the white hair u can tell hashi just takes more from his dad gene wise, their names prove that they were all his fathers sons.
 

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You might think I'm crazy, saying "wtf of course they are related they are brothers" but do they have the same parents? I don't think so.

Why?
First off Hashirama has black hair, and Tobirama white hair (kinda like yin/yang)
Second off, they have two completely different jutsu sets, none being remotely similar. (Hashirama having mokuton, sage mode, while tobirama having sensory, FTG, etc.)
Third, Edo Tensei, hashirama has senju cells, and thus is able to have free reign of his will, while the others (tobirama, minato, and hiruzen) are all under Orochimarus control due to Hashirama cells!

Wouldnt you think if they were 100% brothers they'd at least have similar bodies? Or both have free reign?

This brings up the next idea where Hashiramas parents were possibly both 100% Senju, making Hashirama 100% Senju. 100% meaning Only his cells work on experiments, tobiramas or tsunades cells would not be efficient for senju related powers like izanagi, only Hashirama and his predecessors would have that potential.

This must mean after Hashirama, Butsuma (Hashis Father) got remarried (possibly to a white haired girl from Hagaromo) and thus was able to have Tobirama, and Itama, which has half black, and half white hair.
Either that or Tobirama is not EVEN 50% senju, he was adopted and just BELONGS to the Senju clan.

Also another thing giving me these thoughts is when Madara tells Hashirama "you call me a "brother" but between him and me who would you cut down"?

So your thoughts? Obvious? Not so obvious?

do you know anything about genetics? lol like seriously. either you are like 13 and still learning or you are an adult who obviously didn't pay attention in school. (had you not tried to ignore what people said to you i wouldn't even have posted, but this ridiculousness needed to be addressed)

as far as edo tensi goes, he broke it due to his extremely high chakra level, don't have anything to do with being a senju. had you read the manga and was paying attention you would have realized that instead of saying their not brothers because of their hair color and jutsus (when in reality Hashirama have the clans Kekkei Genkai and Tobirama don't and Tobirama only had 1 nature type, Hashirama have 2, so of course they use different jutsus)

i'm not even gonna touch on the madara comment, you have to have close friends to obviously realize a lot of people consider their closest friends or best friend/s like family, like a brother, sister, cousin, etc.

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This is the stupidest post I've read in quite awhile.
Good job.
 

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what the.,during hashiramas time.,you can only marry a girl in your own clan.,because during there time all clans are enemies
 

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Yeah, they may be half-brothers or they are not related at all...
XD Of course you're wrong! Being brothers doesn't mean they have to look similar or something. Genetics is complicated, you know...
 

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"senju" cells mean Hashirama cells. Tobirama aid it himself that Oro's body was made of his BROTHERS cells.
 

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My brothers is three inchs taller than me, i guess we have diffetent parents.I mean, we both look like my father and there are pictures of mother holding us after our births.Yet, your intelligent foul proof theory has me wonder, what if i'm Luffy and not from the Zoro Clan.
 

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Hashiramas DNA =/= Senju DNA, Hashi's differs in strength because not only is it Senju it also has Mokuton which Tobirama doesn't. Why Hashirama couldn't be controlled by edo tensei is because Oro is using Hashi's own DNA to strengthen it so it won't work against him but it does againts Tobirama.
 
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This is a really long stretch. It's almost like you're trying to fix something that isn't broken. The manga says that they're brothers, and there hasn't been anything that points to the contrary of that.

On a side note, Orochimaru's body is made up of Hashirama's cells. It's logical that he's the only one who would be able to move, since Oro is using HIS cells to strengthen the Edo Tensei.
 

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Yeah i agree with u dwillofwire in ur 2'nd post nt all family members have 2 look lyk d same ok.so hashi has earth water =mukuton.bt tobirama has water affinity.4 those who are nt 2sure of both 2 be 100% bros pl's,read both histroy n story n life in manga 2 be convinced ok.
 

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