hashirama and madara

[TheSages456]

Was never mentioned that they are different individuals and that in and of itself is against the point. Edo madara is a rigged, more powerful version of Madara hence making them both two different forms of the same thing, one superior to the other in terms of power. When you examine the

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of power itself, you will realize that based on arsenal, Edo-Madara's full power reigns superior and even given the statement, he had his full power in his prime, while alive when he faced hashirama. According to

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however, his edo state surpasses that.

what the hell are you babbling about? madaras full power is PS as he stated himself. this isnt debatable. its just you in denial. madara was made more complete than in his prime(mokuton, rinnegan). his full power is still what he used against hashirama.

 

[Hyugaaa]

Yet sm Hashirama can probably use twice as many wood clones, he could probably have like 5 wood dragons and etc. He will undoubtedly outlast madara, and re read the part that says he not Edo but has his Edo abilities.

But the Edo Madara was said to have unlimited chakara, he definitely would not out last him. Hashi wins for sure with both chakaras being based.

 

[Waltz]

what the hell are you babbling about? madaras full power is PS as he stated himself. this isnt debatable. its just you in denial. madara was made more complete than in his prime(mokuton, rinnegan). his full power is still what he used against hashirama.

Are you that incompetent to not understand simple vocabulary? I'll dumb it down some more for you.

Madara's full power is perfect susano'o aka, his EMS's highest ability. He possessed this full power when he fought hashirama in his prime and was defeated. His Edo state is beyond his prime which is obvious because he now has the rinnegan and mokuton and is able to utilize them in battle meaning that he has power of that beyond his prime aka, Perfect susano'o.

If you can't see the difference between:

Madara: Perfect Susano'o VS Hashirama

Edo-Madara:Unlimited stamina, Unlimited chakra, Perfect susano'o, Rinnegan, Mokuton VS Hashirama

Then i cannot help you.

 

[TheSages456]

Are you that incompetent to not understand simple vocabulary? I'll dumb it down some more for you.

Madara's full power is perfect susano'o aka, his EMS's highest ability. He possessed this full power when he fought hashirama in his prime and was defeated. His Edo state is beyond his prime which is obvious because he now has the rinnegan and mokuton and is able to utilize them in battle meaning that he has power of that beyond his prime aka, Perfect susano'o.

If you can't see the difference between:

Madara: Perfect Susano'o VS Hashirama

Edo-Madara:Unlimited stamina, Unlimited chakra, Perfect susano'o, Rinnegan, Mokuton VS Hashirama

Then i cannot help you.

madara stated that PS is his full power. this wont change no matter how much you cry. edo madara is more complete than living madara because he has more powers. its that simple. his full power is PS.

 

[Waltz]

madara stated that PS is his full power. this wont change no matter how much you cry. edo madara is more complete than living madara because he has more powers. its that simple. his full power is PS.

Blatant fanboy logic. I have highlighted the contradictory, however.

 

[TheSages456]

Blatant fanboy logic. I have highlighted the contradictory, however.

edo madara has more powers(not raw power) as in abilities than living madara but they are weaker than perfect susano by a few tiers(which madara stated himself). its pretty simple to comprehend unless you have the mental capacity of a 2 year old child.

 

[HadouKage]

Are you that incompetent to not understand simple vocabulary? I'll dumb it down some more for you.

Madara's full power is perfect susano'o aka, his EMS's highest ability. He possessed this full power when he fought hashirama in his prime and was defeated. His Edo state is beyond his prime which is obvious because he now has the rinnegan and mokuton and is able to utilize them in battle meaning that he has power of that beyond his prime aka, Perfect susano'o.

If you can't see the difference between:

Madara: Perfect Susano'o VS Hashirama

Edo-Madara:Unlimited stamina, Unlimited chakra, Perfect susano'o, Rinnegan, Mokuton VS Hashirama

Then i cannot help you.

These wouldn't apply because he isn't an edo, that significantly plays a part in terms of chakara usage

 

[Waltz]

edo madara has more powers(not raw power) as in abilities than living madara but they are weaker than perfect susano by a few tiers(which madara stated himself). its pretty simple to comprehend unless you have the mental capacity of a 2 year old child.

Is this canon or are you also fantasizing as the OP? when did madara state that his upgrades, respectively Mokuton and the Rinnengan were inferior to perfect susano'o?

These wouldn't apply because he isn't an edo, that significantly plays a part in terms of chakara usage

Pertaining to the OP yes but that is his argument, as idiotic as it may seem.

 

[TheSages456]

Is this canon or are you also fantasizing as the OP? when did madara state that his upgrades, respectively Mokuton and the Rinnengan were inferior to perfect susano'o?

when he stated that PS is his full power which automatically puts it above his other techs.

he said it when he obliterated the meteor & the forest with 1 PS slash.

 

[iNotorious]

Hashirama by far :yayy:

 

[Untung]

Ok, lets say Hashirama and Madara fought, but madara has his Edo powers except he's not an Edo, and Hashirama is in sage mode.

Restrictions: No kurama, or meteor as that would kill them both(unless hashirama could stop it ... Even I doubt that xD)
Distance: 50 meters
Location:lee vs kimimaro
Knowledge: full

Is hashirama realy have sage mode???
If yes then tsunade have it to???
Chapter 576-578

Still confuse...