Hashirama and Madara vs Naruto and Sasuke

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Team 1: Base Hashirama and EMS Madara
Team 2: BM Naruto and EMS Sasuke

Restrictions: Madara can't use PS

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Hashirama took on a far superior PS and a far superior Kurama and still was winning. He'd smoke these two.
 

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Naruto and Sasuke probably win.
 

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Hashirama and Madara probably win
 

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The only different between NaruSasu and HashiMada is that Naruto and Sasuke actually got a power boost directly from Hagaromo, which added to their previous abilities puts them above Hashirama and Madara. Naruto and Sasuke without RIkudou boost might be less than or equal to Hashirama and Madara without rikudou boosts (making all four of them equal transmigrates without rikudou boosts), but with rikudou power they're superior.
 

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Team 1 wins rather easily.

Mokujin has the physical strength on par with Full Kurama and effortlessly grabbed his Bijuudamas and Hashirama even displayed the ability to instantly use Wood Dragon in conjunction with Mokujin, so BM Naruto is easily subdued.

And Madara's V4 Legless Susano'o was able to tank Full Kurama's Bijuudama and was far bigger than EMS Sasuke's own Perfect Susano'o and his V4 Susano'o displayed the ability to slice through multiple mountains in a mere instant with just his Shockwaves.
 

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Team 1 wins rather easily.

Mokujin has the physical strength on par with Full Kurama and effortlessly grabbed his Bijuudamas and Hashirama even displayed the ability to instantly use Wood Dragon in conjunction with Mokujin, so BM Naruto is easily subdued.

And Madara's V4 Legless Susano'o was able to tank Full Kurama's Bijuudama and was far bigger than EMS Sasuke's own Perfect Susano'o and his V4 Susano'o displayed the ability to slice through multiple mountains in a mere instant with just his Shockwaves.

V4 never tanked TBB
V4 Susanoo never cut multiple mountains from its shockwaves

Both of them were done by PS
 

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V4 never tanked TBB
V4 Susanoo never cut multiple mountains from its shockwaves




It did indeed tank it and the design itself is similar to Itachi and Sasuke's V4 Susano'o along with the Susano'o he used against the Gokage prior to stabilizing the chakra.

And as for V4 Susano'o's strength:



And it makes sense because the only difference is that Perfect Susano'o is the result of stabilizing the chakra that formed the user's V4 Susano'o which only increases the Susano'os durability.
 

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It did indeed tank it and the design itself is similar to Itachi and Sasuke's V4 Susano'o along with the Susano'o he used against the Gokage prior to stabilizing the chakra.
V4 didn't "tank" the TBB it's swords merely halted Mokujin's attempt of slamming it back at Madara. When the , Madara was forced to stabilize his Susanoo. Hashirama wouldn't have stated Madara was smart for covering the kyuubi otherwise. [ ],[ ]

And as for V4 Susano'o's strength:



And it makes sense because the only difference is that Perfect Susano'o is the result of stabilizing the chakra that formed the user's V4 Susano'o which only increases the Susano'os durability.
Susanoo increases in strength every time it evolves. It's been the case since it's unveil. It stabilizing grants it more power too.

(完全体 須佐能乎, Kanzentai Susanoo)

Heading: Eternity reigns within those pupils, allowing to shape the bravery into clad blue!

Classification: Ninjutsu/Kekkei Genkai
Rank: No Rank
Class: Offensive/Defensive
Range: All Ranges
User(s): Uchiha Madara

The power of the Mangekyō Sharingan is able to activate incredible Ninjutsu. Enormous Chakra clad technique materialize, towering over the mountains (exceeding the height of the mountains), taking authority over battlefield to its hands (changing the flow of battle). Appearance of the complete technique differs in accordance to the user. Moreover for users that are good at Ninjutsu Susanoo themselves,becomes possible to enter/trigger the invocation of the complete body (kanseitai). Furthermore Susanoo in next form can wear special armor which can shape/turn on wings that allow it to fly.

↑ The great complete Susanoo cutting strength that can cut-off mountain peaks,is easily enough to shut down even iron hard resistance (or is enough to make even iron-hard enemies to forfeit the battle).

Heading: Cursed mark adds up the Senjutsu power!

Sasuke's Cursed Seal release ability, is the ability that originated from the Jūgo's original Cursed Seal Chakra. Senjutsu Susanoo is the Susanoo that has the nature energy power given from the Cursed Seal. People who tamed the Ten Tails' power can be damaged only by nature energy, Cursed Seal Chakra Susanoo made Sasuke's attacks land. Also I am 100% sure that Complete Susano'o is an Mangekyō Sharingan technique (not Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan technique).
 

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It did indeed tank it and the design itself is similar to Itachi and Sasuke's V4 Susano'o along with the Susano'o he used against the Gokage prior to stabilizing the chakra.

Nope.
V4 blocked the initial impact of the bomb but when it was about to explode, the Susanoo was manifested to PS and armored kurama
And no, Itachis and sasukes susanoo is nothing like Madaras, the former doesn't even have PS and the latter doesn't need to stabilize his Susanoo as he formed PS straight away


And as for V4 Susano'o's strength:



And it makes sense because the only difference is that Perfect Susano'o is the result of stabilizing the chakra that formed the user's V4 Susano'o which only increases the Susano'os durability.

Nope
PS is the result of another layer on V4 not just stabilizing its chakra
It's on a whole other level
Just how V3 is on a higher pedestal to V2 and so on

The slash that cut multiple mountains was a feat of PS. Not V4

So it's
PS = SM Mokujin >>> base Mokujin = Madaras V4
 
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