Hashi > Edo Madara ?

[EonForce42]

I'm not taking sides but, "Madara's only saying that out of respect"sounds like complete bull. Doesn't sound like Madara. He most likely said it because it holds some truth. I don't care what anyone says I don't see how he could continue to say that one person could beat him if he is stronger than them now.

 

[Stark]

I highly doubt it.

 

[MadaraHashirama]

Nope edo madaras mokuton is <= hashiramas. Then he has immortality, extemely enhanced chakra, ems techniques, rinnegan, and susanoo on top of that while hashirama has <= chakra, mokuton, powerful life force that is << madaras immortality. So edo madara stomps hashirama.

And why does he have all of that? Because of Orochimaru, LOL. It's not even Madara's own power it was due to Orochimaru he got most of it. Rinnegan he got himself but meh, he just said himself the only one stopping him is Hashirama so that should include him with his Rinnegan, I also highly doubt he was as skilled as Nagato with it.
So whether Edo Madara > Hashirama or Hashirama > Edo Madara, it doesn't matter, half of Edo Madara's power is because of Orochimaru, what the point of comparing a zombie to a human anyway?:sy:
It's not even Madara's doing as I said before, it's all Orochimaru's doing, real Madara would get owned simple as that.
Naruto Bijuu Mode vs Edo Asuma, who would win? You can't say Naruto because he doesn't know any seals for what we know, therefore comparing a Edo to a non-Edo is a really bad comparison

 

[obscoral]

no way

 

[MrLukyso]

No, and we clearly know that Madara is the most strongest character ever shown besides Sage. He knows Tobi and didn't even mentioned him while saying words with respect towards Hashirama, even though Rinnegan Madara would win against Hashirama.

 

[kit]

I believe he is capable of beating Madara. Madara hinted at this during the most recent chapter and also said how if he were to be fighting Hashirama right now, the battlefield would be in ruins from BOTH of their massive power.

 

[SharinganNightmare]

You guys forget that Hashirama was ALSO well versed in Kinjutsu, or sealing techniques. Minato was as well, and they both did they same thing to the controller of the Kyuubi (hashi with madara, minato with tobi). Since the key to defeating Edo Tensei opponents is to seal them, or to stop the jutsu, I'm going to say that it's likely that Hashirama would pull some kind of forest-locking rape jutsu with some sort of uber seal to be able to stop him. Not to say that this would be easy by any means. Not to mention it's also even possible that the death god seal could be a jutsu that minato had learned from hashi's scroll. (Assuming that the scroll is the same scroll I think it is, that naruto reads at the very beginning of the story.)

My official standpoint is, Hashirama would probably lose, in a straight up force on force fight with Madara, but I don't think he'd be stupid enough to use brute force on a monstrous creation like that.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

madara underestimates the rinnegan and hasnt tapped into its full potential IMO

 

[TobisPawn]

No, and we clearly know that Madara is the most strongest character ever shown besides Sage. He knows Tobi and didn't even mentioned him while saying words with respect towards Hashirama, even though Rinnegan Madara would win against Hashirama.

So Madara not mentioning Tobi means that Tobi < Hashirama?

 

[arv993]

And why does he have all of that? Because of Orochimaru, LOL. It's not even Madara's own power it was due to Orochimaru he got most of it. Rinnegan he got himself but meh, he just said himself the only one stopping him is Hashirama so that should include him with his Rinnegan, I also highly doubt he was as skilled as Nagato with it.
So whether Edo Madara > Hashirama or Hashirama > Edo Madara, it doesn't matter, half of Edo Madara's power is because of Orochimaru, what the point of comparing a zombie to a human anyway?:sy:
It's not even Madara's doing as I said before, it's all Orochimaru's doing, real Madara would get owned simple as that.
Naruto Bijuu Mode vs Edo Asuma, who would win? You can't say Naruto because he doesn't know any seals for what we know, therefore comparing a Edo to a non-Edo is a really bad comparison

Are u for real. Most of madara's powers come from oro. and u make him look so much weaker than he actually is without being an edo.

He has ems- just with that he can rape the kages with his final sussano and u say he would get owned i laugh at that

He has the rinnegan- preta path and deva path abilities are shown by him already he is beyond most kage level ninjas and only people like tobi and naruto can challenge him with those two in his arsenal

Hashi's dna- He got this by himself in a battle with hashi as stated by kabuto so he gets some benefits from it similar to tobi

kabuto gave him the ability to use mokuton its a great power but not most of his power by far madara with senju dna+ rinnegan +ems is one of the strongest ninjas ever lived. SO stop hating and trying to skew facts to support your bs ideas

 

[lol99]

When it comes to hashirama i am willing to trust the word of the man who fought him multiple times and who knows exactly what he is capable of.

Madara doesn't know his full potential? thats retarded. He knows exactly what kind of advantages he has - edo regeneration, rinnegan and mokuton too
and yet if an arrogant person like him says things like-

"hashirama is the only one who can stop me" instead of saying "its better hashirama is not here otherwise i would have whooped his ass for beating me everytime"

for those saying he is saying these things out of respect madara respects only power. He would be talking trash about hashirama if he thought there was a large gap in their abilities :shrug:

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[arv993]

When it comes to hashirama i am willing to trust the word of the man who fought him multiple times and who knows exactly what he is capable of.

Madara doesn't know his full potential? thats retarded. He knows exactly what kind of advantages he has - edo regeneration, rinnegan and mokuton too
and yet if an arrogant person like him says things like-

"hashirama is the only one who can stop me" instead of saying "its better hashirama is not here otherwise i would have whooped his ass for beating me everytime"

for those saying he is saying these things out of respect madara respects only power. He would be talking trash about hashirama if he thought there was a large gap in their abilities :shrug:

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its similar to how pain said that jiraya would have beaten him if he knew his powers. do u think j-man take on pain with all his powers not really even with info he couldnt have taken em all or beat CT or anything.

Its a similar situation here and there is not a huge difference in power since hashi is no doubt a beast. But madara has the rinnegan now and he has some of hashi's own power so its unlikely hashi would win logically. Stop could mean halting his complete rampage that madara's got going not necessarily win. It seems like madara in this condition has the advantage but we never kno hashi might have some random power that allows him to win. I am not gonna deny the possibility but it doesnt seem likely

 

[LeEvilTongue]

Yes

 

[Stark]

No, he mentioned him out of respect

 

[Anorien16]

Well just to remind u a little thing, its clear Hasi > EMS Madara + Kurama.
So its implies: Hasi >> Madara
That wld mean: Edo Hashi >> Edo Madara
And that wld mean: Edo Hashi (with Sharingan) >= Edo Rinne Madara (with hashi cell) xd

Also when a proud man like madara repeatedly says its only hashi can stop me, it means he really respects hashi for his power and that wld mean hashi defeated madara fair and square, (Hashi was wounded while madara was so out cold that he was thought to be dead)

 

[Enton]

The overrating of Hashirama has reached vomit worthy levels.

 

[Anorien16]

The overrating of Hashirama has reached vomit worthy levels.

Madara's opinion/ manga fact >>>>>>> anyone's opinion

 

[Enton]

Madara's opinion/ manga fact >>>>>>> ur/anyone's opinion

ok sure;

Hiruzen > Hashirama, as stated by the manga.

 

[MadaraHashirama]

Are u for real. Most of madara's powers come from oro. and u make him look so much weaker than he actually is without being an edo.

He has ems- just with that he can rape the kages with his final sussano and u say he would get owned i laugh at that

He has the rinnegan- preta path and deva path abilities are shown by him already he is beyond most kage level ninjas and only people like tobi and naruto can challenge him with those two in his arsenal

Hashi's dna- He got this by himself in a battle with hashi as stated by kabuto so he gets some benefits from it similar to tobi

kabuto gave him the ability to use mokuton its a great power but not most of his power by far madara with senju dna+ rinnegan +ems is one of the strongest ninjas ever lived. SO stop hating and trying to skew facts to support your bs ideas

Half of what Edo Madara has done aren't even his techniques or couldn't be used (Immortality, Meteors, Mokuton, ...)

Hashirama DNA isn't even for sure if he got it, Kabuto asked if it was true and Madara didn't answer, and even if he got Hashirama DNA it was a small portion, the Hashirama face is the reason why his techniques are enhanced and why he can do Mokuton.
If you take all those things away (Immortality, Mokuton, Meteors, ...) then you have the real Madara, and the real Madara is weaker then Hashirama no matter what way you look at it.

 

[Anorien16]

ok sure;

Hiruzen > Hashirama, as stated by the manga.

What about madara's opinion?

Its databook that says it (Iruka or Kabuto cant be legit source as they never saw either madara or hashi) that also states amaterasu is as hot as the sun and if it were raikage wld have been crying like a baby, The samurai's armour wld have melted instantly, bee wld have been turned to ash in a few seconds.