Has Sasuke surpassed Itachi?

[Aertes]

I feel Like Sasuke will forever live on Itachi's shadow...
That's what happens when Kishi makes Itachi an infamous hero,praised by Hashirama and Sasuke a lost boy,crybaby,revenge obsessed freak.

 

[foxyladyland]

not really, and he hasn't shown it yet, for us to say yes....definitely not though in the brain department

 

[Jonesy161]

Sasuke's does think he did against danzo an deidara..an he beat naruto on his own

He beat Naruto because Naruto refuses to have each other fight the way Sasuke wants. Sasuke wants only Naruto to die, Naruto wants either both to die or neither to die. He doesn't want to simply just kill Sasuke.

Doesn't this sound familiar? Oh, that's right, Hashirama vs Madara. Hashi refuses to kill Madara even though we all saw Hashi has the strength to do so. Madara wants Hashi to die only.

Kotoamatsukami, both you and FTG V2 have very little knowledge on the manga yet you 2 keep replying like you know more. I suggest now that you both should re-read the manga, not just the fight scenes, but every part so you have a better understanding...

 

[Brooks]

Once again you have proven to not read the manga correctly or ignore the major points. Let this enlighten you.

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Maybe now you will realise how stupid you look. It was stated that Itachi wasn't even trying. He purposely allowed Sasuke to win in every battle. His goal wasn't to kill Sasuke, it was to exhausts Sasuke's strength to force Orochimaru out so Itachi can remove the curse seal.

Again, you showed just how much a moron you are....when did Tsukuyomi kill anyone or was a killing technique?

The level of your stupidity is really high....Itachi put a 7 years old Sasuke in Genjutsu who didn't even have Sharingan and yet he was still alive..that fact you used the whole not killing Sasuke thing which doesn't even apply to Tsukuyomi shows how much you run of an argument.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

Once again you have proven to not read the manga correctly or ignore the major points. Let this enlighten you.

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Maybe now you will realise how stupid you look. It was stated that Itachi wasn't even trying. He purposely allowed Sasuke to win in every battle. His goal wasn't to kill Sasuke, it was to exhausts Sasuke's strength to force Orochimaru out so Itachi can remove the curse seal.



Sasuke is bent on destruction of all those who brought harm to the Uchiha clan. Izanami would work perfectly for Sasuke. Until Sasuke comes to terms that what was done had to be done, then he can never escape Izanami.

No sasuke already accepted his fate whereas kabuto was trying to be somebody else(oro) that's why he got trapped..like I said its not going to work on sasuke...I dOnt think u understand the jutsu well enough go reread

 

[Jonesy161]

Again, you showed just how much a moron you are....when did Tsukuyomi kill anyone or was a killing technique?

The level of your stupidity is really high....Itachi put a 7 years old Sasuke in Genjutsu who didn't even have Sharingan and yet he was still alive..that fact you used the whole not killing Sasuke thing which doesn't even apply to Tsukuyomi shows how much you run of an argument.

Itachi vs Kakashi. Itachi's genjutsu was so advanced that he can control the perception of time. 1 minute felt like 1 year, 100 years, 1000 years, whichever Itachi could choose. We also saw that simply disrupting Kakashi's chakra couldn't free him from the genjutsu, meaning that's how powerful and potent it was.

Itachi can make a man go insane, rendering them useless for life. That's as good as dead.

Sorry, do you want to continue making yourself look stupid?

No sasuke already accepted his fate whereas kabuto was trying to be somebody else(oro) that's why he got trapped..like I said its not going to work on sasuke...I dOnt think u understand the jutsu well enough go reread

Sasuke accepted his fate? Sasuke doesn't plan to die untill he takes down those who caused harm to the Uchiha clan. Sasuke had Oro summon the 4 kages to understand the Uchiha clan and Konoha history even more. He has not accepted his fate at all yet, he's still lost.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

He beat Naruto because Naruto refuses to have each other fight the way Sasuke wants. Sasuke wants only Naruto to die, Naruto wants either both to die or neither to die. He doesn't want to simply just kill Sasuke.

Doesn't this sound familiar? Oh, that's right, Hashirama vs Madara. Hashi refuses to kill Madara even though we all saw Hashi has the strength to do so. Madara wants Hashi to die only.

Kotoamatsukami, both you and FTG V2 have very little knowledge on the manga yet you 2 keep replying like you know more. I suggest now that you both should re-read the manga, not just the fight scenes, but every part so you have a better understanding...

Lol hashirama was the last one standing thoe right? Cuz he was stronger then madara. Simple

 

[Brooks]

Itachi vs Kakashi. Itachi's genjutsu was so advanced that he can control the perception of time. 1 minute felt like 1 year, 100 years, 1000 years, whichever Itachi could choose. We also saw that simply disrupting Kakashi's chakra couldn't free him from the genjutsu, meaning that's how powerful and potent it was.

Itachi can make a man go insane, rendering them useless for life. That's as good as dead.

Sorry, do you want to continue making yourself look stupid?

So, tell why didn't it kill 7 years old Sasuke when the Uchiha massacre happened?

The moment you said Tsukuyomi would work EMS Sasuke showed which one of us is the stupid one....please, kindly stop it.

 

[Genjitxu]

Yes he has. Acquiring the EMS is like completely unlocking a seal. You know how Naruto unlocked his seal? Yeah, its gonna be like that with Sasuke too.

 

[Jonesy161]

Lol hashirama was the last one standing thoe right? Cuz he was stronger then madara. Simple

Are you stupid? That's what I said in the comment you replied too. Holy... Forget talking to you anymore, you're just unbelievably dim.

So, tell why didn't it kill 7 years old Sasuke when the Uchiha massacre happened?

You too are too dumb for words. Same reason he didn't kill Sasuke when they fought each other. He said so at the end of their fight with Kabuto. He doesn't care what path Sasuke chooses, he doesn't care what Sasuke thinks of him, the only thing that matters to Itachi is Sasuke's safety because Itachi loves Sasuke. He was his older brother and protected him as much as possible. He told the 3rd to protect Sasuke, told Danzou to stay away from Sasuke, implemented sharingan techs to keep Tobi away from Sasuke.

Itachi did EVERYTHING for Sasuke because of brotherly love. Are you that stupid?

Yes he has. Acquiring the EMS is like completely unlocking a seal. You know how Naruto unlocked his seal? Yeah, its gonna be like that with Sasuke too.

JUST BECAUSE YOU GET EMS DOES NOT INCREASE SPEED, STRENGTH AND FIGHTING CAPABILITIES. Only eye jutsus are upgraded. The sole reason Madara is as strong as shown in the Kage fight is because HE HAS HASHIRAMAS CELLS FUSED WITH HIS BODY TO INCREASE STRENGTH, CHAKRA AND SPEED. Sasuke does not have Hashirama's cells.


All you Sasuke fanboys are so infuriating!

 

[kotoamatsukami]

Are you stupid? That's what I said in the comment you replied too. Holy... Forget talking to you anymore, you're just unbelievably dim.



You too are too dumb for words. Same reason he didn't kill Sasuke when they fought each other. He said so at the end of their fight with Kabuto. He doesn't care what path Sasuke chooses, he doesn't care what Sasuke thinks of him, the only thing that matters to Itachi is Sasuke's safety because Itachi loves Sasuke. He was his older brother and protected him as much as possible. He told the 3rd to protect Sasuke, told Danzou to stay away from Sasuke, implemented sharingan techs to keep Tobi away from Sasuke.

Itachi did EVERYTHING for Sasuke because of brotherly love. Are you that stupid?



JUST BECAUSE YOU GET EMS DOES NOT INCREASE SPEED, STRENGTH AND FIGHTING CAPABILITIES. Only eye jutsus are upgraded. The sole reason Madara is as strong as shown in the Kage fight is because HE HAS HASHIRAMAS CELLS FUSED WITH HIS BODY TO INCREASE STRENGTH, CHAKRA AND SPEED. Sasuke does not have Hashirama's cells.


All you Sasuke fanboys are so infuriating!

No you talked as if naruto was the last one standing in their fight hashirama never lost..naruto tried as hard as he could to beat sasuke an failed it's not that naruto did not want to kill him he lucky sasuke did not want to kill him.

 

[Brooks]

Are you stupid? That's what I said in the comment you replied too. Holy... Forget talking to you anymore, you're just unbelievably dim.



You too are too dumb for words. Same reason he didn't kill Sasuke when they fought each other. He said so at the end of their fight with Kabuto. He doesn't care what path Sasuke chooses, he doesn't care what Sasuke thinks of him, the only thing that matters to Itachi is Sasuke's safety because Itachi loves Sasuke. He was his older brother and protected him as much as possible. He told the 3rd to protect Sasuke, told Danzou to stay away from Sasuke, implemented sharingan techs to keep Tobi away from Sasuke.

Itachi did EVERYTHING for Sasuke because of brotherly love. Are you that stupid?



JUST BECAUSE YOU GET EMS DOES NOT INCREASE SPEED, STRENGTH AND FIGHTING CAPABILITIES. Only eye jutsus are upgraded. The sole reason Madara is as strong as shown in the Kage fight is because HE HAS HASHIRAMAS CELLS FUSED WITH HIS BODY TO INCREASE STRENGTH, CHAKRA AND SPEED. Sasuke does not have Hashirama's cells.

Listen carefully dumb-ass....Itachi himself said an Uchiha with the same bloodline could broke his Tsukuyomi which Sasuke did so unless you want to pull shit from your ass i advice you to sit your ass down and accept the facts, but that's unless you want to prove me wrong with Manga facts that says Sasuke can't break Tsukuyomi?

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[Jonesy161]

No you talked as if naruto was the last one standing in their fight hashirama never lost..naruto tried as hard as he could to beat sasuke an failed it's not that naruto did not want to kill him he lucky sasuke did not want to kill him.

So you're telling myself along with the entire Naruto fanbase that currently, Sasuke is stronger than Naruto? You're telling me that Naruto, whose fighting alongside Bee to take down the most powerful entitiy in the Narutoverse, the most powerful Uchiha and an Uchiha whose nearly invicible with Space/Time techs and you're saying Sasuke is still more powerful?

Yea, I think this arguement is over.

Listen carefully dumb-ass....Itachi himself said an Uchiha with the same bloodline could broke his Tsukuyomi which Sasuke did so unless you want to pull shit from your ass i advice you to sit your ass down and accept the facts, but that's unless you want to prove me wrong with Manga facts that says Sasuke can't break Tsukuyomi?

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And here, Itachi also states that Izanami's creation was to deal with users of Izanagi. Who can use Izanagi? Only those with the Sharingan, those of the Uchiha bloodline.

Goodfight buddy.

 

[Minator93]

Sasuke surpassed Itachi in raw power but Itachi has the intelligence and experience and that would allow him to win against Sasuke in a mortal combat.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

Itachi vs Kakashi. Itachi's genjutsu was so advanced that he can control the perception of time. 1 minute felt like 1 year, 100 years, 1000 years, whichever Itachi could choose. We also saw that simply disrupting Kakashi's chakra couldn't free him from the genjutsu, meaning that's how powerful and potent it was.

Itachi can make a man go insane, rendering them useless for life. That's as good as dead.

Sorry, do you want to continue making yourself look stupid?



Sasuke accepted his fate? Sasuke doesn't plan to die untill he takes down those who caused harm to the Uchiha clan. Sasuke had Oro summon the 4 kages to understand the Uchiha clan and Konoha history even more. He has not accepted his fate at all yet, he's still lost.

No he has his mind made up he's trying to see if they can change it still in a way he will still accept the way he turns out..where as kabuto would not be happy with just being himself so he's trying to become somebody else..

 

[Lana Del Taka]

EMS doesn't make a ninja overall better. They can't see better than a MS, they can't move faster, they aren't stronger, etc. All EMS does for them is increase ocular powers meaning Ameterasu, Tsukoyomi and Susano'o are upgraded.

We've already seen from the Kage fight, Gaara vs Sasuke, A vs Sasuke and Bee vs Sasuke that those 3 can be countered.



Like I said, Susano'o wasn't the only thing upgraded. Itachi was already a master at genjutsu. Even his MS genjutsu was on a whole new level with Izanagi and Izanami. Sasuke may have an upper hand on Susano'o but same goes for Itachi, he has the upper hand on Tsukoyomi.

With Tsukoyomi, Itachi can disrupt Sasuke's chakra over and over, causing Susano'o to collapse continuously, giving Itachi the opportunity to get within close quarters. We all know Itachi was a better fighter in taijutsu.



Susano'o's perfect defence doesn't include being able to counter ocular genjutsu. Itachi only needs eye contact. Also, what we've seen from Kakashi vs Itachi was that Itachi doesn't even need Eye contact. He can use other objects with enough lust/shine to it to reflect the genjutsu.

What're you talking about? Any of Itachi's genjutsu doesnt work on Sasuke

 

[kotoamatsukami]

So you're telling myself along with the entire Naruto fanbase that currently, Sasuke is stronger than Naruto? You're telling me that Naruto, whose fighting alongside Bee to take down the most powerful entitiy in the Narutoverse, the most powerful Uchiha and an Uchiha whose nearly invicible with Space/Time techs and you're saying Sasuke is still more powerful?

Yea, I think this arguement is over.

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And here, Itachi also states that Izanami's creation was to deal with users of Izanagi. Who can use Izanagi? Only those with the Sharingan, those of the Uchiha bloodline.

Goodfight buddy.

Lol when did I ever say sasuke was stronger now? I anything right now they tie..but when they fought the first time sasuke won cuz he was stronger second time sasuke raped him an the nine tails..I was just sayin sasuke did solo some body two people at that naruto an deidara..oro makes three sai an Yamato I guess danzo aswell

 

[Tartarus]

So you're telling myself along with the entire Naruto fanbase that currently, Sasuke is stronger than Naruto? You're telling me that Naruto, whose fighting alongside Bee to take down the most powerful entitiy in the Narutoverse, the most powerful Uchiha and an Uchiha whose nearly invicible with Space/Time techs and you're saying Sasuke is still more powerful?

Yea, I think this arguement is over.

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And here, Itachi also states that Izanami's creation was to deal with users of Izanagi. Who can use Izanagi? Only those with the Sharingan, those of the Uchiha bloodline.

Goodfight buddy.

he was talking about Tsukiyomi, Izanami has nothing to do with this question

 

[Jonesy161]

No he has his mind made up he's trying to see if they can change it still in a way he will still accept the way he turns out..where as kabuto would not be happy with just being himself so he's trying to become somebody else..

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Trying to succeed when impossible? Fear of failing his goals? Believes he's more powerful than any other who stands before him? Believes he has everything needed to complete his goals?

Sounds like Sasuke to me.

he was talking about Tsukiyomi, Izanami has nothing to do with this question

He said one Uchiha's genjutsu cannot be cast on another Uchiha. What I'm showing is that Izanami breaks those rules.

Lol when did I ever say sasuke was stronger now? I anything right now they tie..but when they fought the first time sasuke won cuz he was stronger second time sasuke raped him an the nine tails..I was just sayin sasuke did solo some body two people at that naruto an deidara..oro makes three sai an Yamato I guess danzo aswell

What I'm trying to convey to you is that you're overhyping Sasuke. He's not remotely as strong as you want to believe him to be. You keep trying to argue back that Sasuke is better because his techs are better. If that's the case, then how about...?

Minato vs Tobi. Minato stated Tobi's Space/Time jutsu exceeds both his and the 2nds. Minato won the fight, but how? With his own Space/Time tech that he said was inferior to Tobi's. Why? Because Minato was smarter and better in close quarter combat than an Uchiha was.

Same goes for Itachi vs Sasuke. Sasuke has better techs but Itachi is faster, smarter and better in taijutsu.

 

[Brooks]

So you're telling myself along with the entire Naruto fanbase that currently, Sasuke is stronger than Naruto? You're telling me that Naruto, whose fighting alongside Bee to take down the most powerful entitiy in the Narutoverse, the most powerful Uchiha and an Uchiha whose nearly invicible with Space/Time techs and you're saying Sasuke is still more powerful?

Yea, I think this arguement is over.

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And here, Itachi also states that Izanami's creation was to deal with users of Izanagi. Who can use Izanagi? Only those with the Sharingan, those of the Uchiha bloodline.

Goodfight buddy.

Hahahaha....WTF did i just read?

Izanami and Tsukuyomi are two different Jutsus which i don't how they would apply to each other and Izanami is a Jutus that's only for anyone who doesn't accept their true self....Izanami isn't about countering the with your Sharingan, but rather on your own will.