Has Sasuke surpassed Itachi

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Sasuke surpassed itachi when he got ems.

He can break tsukiyomi easily

he can use better ama

he has arrows to keep itachi at bay,not to mention enton around itachi and his susanoo to make sure itachi can't walk towards him

with his recent spammage of enton,kirin is much faster,and we know what kirin did to itachi's susanoo last time.

Sasuke is also smart and has his ems which will enable him see through whatever trick itachi is planning,sasuke tricked/surprised itachi a few times in thier fight,the rigged shuriken,running a shuriken through with chidori,using oro's kawarimi,stalling for time with his kirin,using itachi's own ama to his advantage.

he has more chakra,plus ems which reduces chakra usage,compared to ms itachi who even if healthy will still feel great pain from using ms jutsus.

Izanami needs physical contact,good luck gettung thet with sasuke and his enton susanoo.izanagi needs senju dna.

Sasuke can preduct itachi's movement better than itachi can preduct his own due to better occular dojutsu.

I's day sasuke beats sick itachi mid diff,healthy one high diff
 

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Healthy Itachi vs Sasuke. I must go with Itachi.

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Izanami

And besides, sasuke barely did anything in the fight against Kabuto. Itachi didn't need his help and in terms of Genjutsu, Itachi would beat him 10/10 times. Itachi is just too strong at this point compared to sasuke and since we haven't seen anything from his EMS, Itachi is still the winner.
 

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No, in my opinion, just no.

People argue that his EMS can give him the win.
Some other argue that even MS Sasuke has surpased Itachi

Genjutsu: Itachi > Sasuke
Danzo stated that his genjutsu was weaker. And during the fight with kabuto
he proved to be better at Genjutsu again. The only reason Sasuke "broke" Itachi's
genjutsu was because ending fight the fight that early would mean not taking out Orohimaru
and not hiting death infront of him. Even Zetsu was surprised to see that happen.

Ninjutsu: Itachi = Sasuke
Sasuke has more techniques, Itachi has better use of themand faster hand seals ,with
the exeption of Amaterasu.

Taijutsu: Itachi>Sasuke
Even holding back Itachi was tu much for Sasuke as he cornered him
and made him use his CM.

Stamina: Itachi<Sasuke
Even do Sasuke has more Chakra he just spams every high consuming chakra
jutsu he has (you cant say that isnt true, Itachi got his MS when he was little over 13
yet we see him finally get blind until he was around 22, Sasuke got it after his battle with Itachi and he managed to
spam it so much as to get blind before even half a year)
plus there inst that much of a gap in chakra levels as shown when at the end of the fight
between this two they were equaly tired (even sasuke was more exasted as he coul barely
move while itachi was walking to him with a susanoo)
again the dissese is what killed itachi. Nothing else.

Skill: Itachi>Sasuke
Itachi manage to blind all of the summons Nagato did in one barage of kunais
He managed to form a clone while having a shuriken fight with Sasuke (wich should be enough proof)
Sasuke managed to kill an Izanagi spamer well thats an acomplishment.
Itachi managed to stop the edo tensei, with some help from Sasuke.
Thas a plus to both. Yet again during that fight we saw Itachi a step above Sasuke.
some might say that it was Edo Itachi but there werent that many jutsus used or the fight wasnt long enough
to make chakra diference.)

That not countin KA from his crow.
 

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No, in my opinion, just no.

People argue that his EMS can give him the win.
Some other argue that even MS Sasuke has surpased Itachi

Genjutsu: Itachi > Sasuke
Danzo stated that his genjutsu was weaker. And during the fight with kabuto
he proved to be better at Genjutsu again. The only reason Sasuke "broke" Itachi's
genjutsu was because ending fight the fight that early would mean not taking out Orohimaru
and not hiting death infront of him. Even Zetsu was surprised to see that happen.

Ninjutsu: Itachi = Sasuke
Sasuke has more techniques, Itachi has better use of themand faster hand seals ,with
the exeption of Amaterasu.

Taijutsu: Itachi>Sasuke
Even holding back Itachi was tu much for Sasuke as he cornered him
and made him use his CM.

Stamina: Itachi<Sasuke
Even do Sasuke has more Chakra he just spams every high consuming chakra
jutsu he has (you cant say that isnt true, Itachi got his MS when he was little over 13
yet we see him finally get blind until he was around 22, Sasuke got it after his battle with Itachi and he managed to
spam it so much as to get blind before even half a year)
plus there inst that much of a gap in chakra levels as shown when at the end of the fight
between this two they were equaly tired (even sasuke was more exasted as he coul barely
move while itachi was walking to him with a susanoo)
again the dissese is what killed itachi. Nothing else.

Skill: Itachi>Sasuke
Itachi manage to blind all of the summons Nagato did in one barage of kunais
He managed to form a clone while having a shuriken fight with Sasuke (wich should be enough proof)
Sasuke managed to kill an Izanagi spamer well thats an acomplishment.
Itachi managed to stop the edo tensei, with some help from Sasuke.
Thas a plus to both. Yet again during that fight we saw Itachi a step above Sasuke.
some might say that it was Edo Itachi but there werent that many jutsus used or the fight wasnt long enough
to make chakra diference.)

That not countin KA from his crow.

I don't know about speed, but Sasuke's ninjutsu outclasses Itachi's.
 

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I don't know about speed, but Sasuke's ninjutsu outclasses Itachi's.

I agree that Sasuke has a wider pool of Jutsus but they all got somehow countered
by Itachi. Including kirin.
And I see people saying that kirin broke trouh Yata Mirror.
Susanoo hasnt shown to fully develop faster than lightning. so we cant assume
that itachis susanno was fully developed and had yata mirror protecting it.

So yes overall Sasuke has wider pool but Itachi uses them better.
 

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There is no healthy itachi..hes always been somewhat sick

his illness causes him to have low chakra and low stamina.after using tsukoyomi his speed plummeted

intelligence wise there about the same







and using itachis intelligence as a pro for him is null because sasuke is just as smart

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I wanna -rep you for saying that. Itachi is WAY smarter than Sasuke AND healthy Itachi would be Itachi w/o his illness.
 

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Sasuke has surpassed Itachi only in visual prowess, no doubt the EMS is better than the MS because the user can't go blind from its use, so that's in Sasuke's favor to use his techniques without going blind while Itachi runs the risk of going blind. In ninjutsu they're about equal, but in genjutsu, sharingan mastery, skill, and intelligence go to Itachi. Overall, Itachi > Sasuke, but I believe Sasuke will surpass Itachi at somepoint.
 

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Are we talking about skill here? When Sasuke got EMS he definitely surpassed Itachi in a way that there is no drawback in using his sharingan techs but EMS does not give you infinite chakra so if they were to fight to the death and assuming that both of them are healthy, slight advantage goes to Sasuke because of his EMS. Itachi's MS techs have limits and he can go blind. If we're talking about skill, then my vote goes to Itachi.
 
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Are we talking about skill here? When Sasuke got EMS he definitely surpassed Itachi in a way that there is no drawback in using his sharingan techs but EMS does not give you infinite chakra so if they were to fight to the death and assuming that both of them are healthy, slight advantage goes to Sasuke because of his EMS. Itachi's MS techs have limits and he can go blind. If we're talking about skill, then my vote goes to Itachi.

Thats what I think but some people think Sasuke can never beat Itachi?
 

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comparing all Itachi techniques with sasuke :

Tsukiyomi ~ wont work
Amaterasu ~ sasuke is better at it,he have blaze release, so wont work.
Susano ~ sasuke can hold it longer since he has more stamina and EMS
Katon ~ Sasuke
Intelligence ~ Equal

Hype : Tobi said sasuke is better than itachi.. or something (i don't remember the manga page, though).
Facts : As given above.

Someone still saying itachi ~~ biased or fanboy.
 

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Not now, but he will surpass him sooner or later. Itachi is dead after all
 
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