[Discussion] Has Sasuke finally surpassed Naruto?

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Since he was born he was always ahead of Naruto
 

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I don't think Naruto could dodge this.
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Look at Naruto's expression. The attack was so fast, Naruto didn't even know what happened.

Let me make it short: No. They are equals.

Naruto could also evade the Rinbo Hengoku. What makes you think Madara is faster than Naruto? Sasuke could see the Rinbo from some distance, but Naruto reaction time was almost instant (Madara used a point blank attack).
 

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You should also take note of how sasuke dodged madara's lightning. Madara says that he didn't just move. He probably also did something with his rinnegan. I think since sasuke has the original sharingan(rinnegan). He has all the posers that originated from it. Kamui, tsukiyomi..... who knows.
 

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We will know that answer if Kishi gives the fans what they want. Sasuke v Naruto. The final battle between the two for the Hokage title.
 

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Actually, ever since the Pain Arc, Naruto has always been the stronger one.

Got proof?

It's zetsu wasn't stating a fact just a mere opinion

When they did clash it was at base which Ended in a stalemate

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Has always been ahead when you look at the overall
 

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Everyone seems to misunderstand.

Sasuke teleported that sword into Madara's heart.

There is no dodging that.
 

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Actually, ever since the Pain Arc, Naruto has always been the stronger one.

Amaterasu could one shot Naruto any time, only now maybe he can dodge it.

Btw, you logic is wrong, how exactly does Naruto's expression say "I didn't see that coming". Naruto could dodge it, because it requires chakra to active/use it, so he would sense that.

But neither of those examples make one stroner than the other...
 

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Hah! Those Naru and Sausage fans
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He was more confused at how a sword pierced madra when he was tanking everything earlier

Which is why sasuke explained about the shadow he could see and naruto was sensing
 

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Agreed, but...Naruto DID state, that the next time they fight, both of them will die. Which, I full heartedly agree. Especially with their powerups.
 

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Sasuke is superior by feats. They are indeed equal, and Naruto will show his counter abilities later on, but for now, judging by pure feats, Sasuke curb stomps. Sasuke is faster featwise, and Naruto showed that he was incapable of reacting to Sasuke's ability, as he was looking left and right wondering what the hell Sasuke did. The fact that it seems to instantaneously transport anything Sasuke wants within a limited area means that it's impossible to react to anyway. As much as people love to cry sensing, Madara has Sage Sensing as well on top of his Rinnegan, and it didn't help him. Naruto also lacks regenerative feats to show he can survive a stab through his heart or brain.

You are wrong, and you don't even understand what happened in the manga. It was not a matter of speed and Naruto was not surprised because Sasuke was fast. Here, Naruto was surprised because Sasuke used Limbo Hengoku on Madara who wasn't expecting it. Basically, Sasuke used Madara's own techniques, and this is why Madara talked about them having the same left eye.

Actually, Sasuke is the one who cannot track Naruto when Naruto used FTG on Madara.
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In case you forgot Naruto is almost invincible right now. he can sense from every angle, and even he can sense Rimbo Hengoku.

Your manga reading skills are abhorrent. Sasuke did not use Limbo. He could only see it. Naruto had no freaking idea what was going on, and was looking left and right, when Sasuke used his ability. Naruto has not once used FTG. Having a Kunai in his mouth didn't change that. It was simply there so Tobirama could teleport Sasuke to it. Despite Sensing Limbo, it still smacked Naruto away. If he was bewildered by Sasuke's ability and Limbo, he isn't reacting to a sword coming into his brain from out of nowhere. Sasuke was not incapable of tracking Naruto. He was talking about the Limbo clone which he saw just perfectly fine. Naruto didn't even use FTG. He just jumped. Madara can sense from every angle on top of having Rinnegan himself. That can't stop a sword stabbing through your gut in an instant.

Sorry but i doubt it , it looks like sausage could stop only shadow madaras limbo.....

He didn't. He sword passed through it and he pointed out that physical attacks don't work on it. The only thing to affect the clone was Naruto's attack, which is why Sasuke noted only Sage techniques affect it.

You do realize naruto has better healing ability now right? He was already a perfect toad sage. Now with additional healing abilities given by Rikudou himself naruto can heal his injuries at much faster rate U_U .So Still naruto > sasuke U_U

Unless he can regenerate his heart or brain, he is going to have issues.

Naruto is faster than Madara.

Based on what? Madara never noted Naruto's speed, nor was he ever incapable of reacting to him. He only ever noted Sasuke's and Gai's speed.
 
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Sorry but i doubt it , it looks like sausage could stop only shadow madaras limbo.....
I think u accidentally hit it on the head I don't believe sasuke can teleport anything I also believe that he got limbo madara and not real one then Marsala rejoined with limbo and took the damage
 

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Here's how I see it:

When they were kids, Sasuke always had the edge, even being the last man standing at the VotE. Even in Shippuden, Sasuke had the edge up to the Hidan and Kakuzu arc, where, IMO, Naruto and Sasuke were equal. But after the Invasion of Pain arc, Naruto surpassed Sasuke.

Now, I'm assuming that they're equal, but if either of them is going to be strongest, it's Naruto.
 

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i dont think so. naruto has ninjutsu cancelling and erasing sage sensing more over firepower i just feel hes a little ahead of saskey and soloing god tree in base form is huge
 

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I don't know why the fanbase continue to compare Naruto and Sasuke. In the first place, the rivalry between them is purely conceptual, and also tactical for Kishi. Otherwise, with opened eyes, it is clear Naruto is the perfect shin obi in every aspects.

Therefore, this thread is useless in the sense that the OP is ignoring Naruto's power. That is in a fair battle, Naruto will read Sasuke's mind before Sasuke even start to act. This makes Naruto the fastest Shinobi in the Narutoverse, matched only by Rikudo who has the same precognition abilities.

For example, if you consider the action where Madara took Kakashi's eye, if Naruto was the one at the right spot, Madara would have failed because Naruto new exactly what Madara was after. Sasuke was able to go after Madara only because Naruto told him what Madara was up to. Simply put,

In Naruto's current state, all speeds are useless because he can predict exactly what the enemy is up to.

Next, the OP failed to noticed that though Sasuke's feats look cool, Naruto is a bad match for mid-tier like him. The reason is simple - that is just like Madara, Naruto can recover from any wound. In case you don't believe, go ask the fandom what Naruto did to stop the certain-death consequence of 8 gates.

Right now, there is only one question I would like to answer about Naruto, which is:

Is there anything Naruto cannot do?

See, if you are reading the manga, then you should know Naruto himself has already said it. He can change everything. Be prepare for Naruto boy to unleash the true power of the sage.
 

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Sasuke eyes let Him see Madara but Naruto Senjutsu lets Him sense Madara,each can in their own way can track Madara.
 

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Keep it up Sasuke wankers. Remember that at the end of this manga that is titled NARUTO that Naruto will ultimately be the stronger one. U mad?
 

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naruto>sasuke

sasuke left eye wont be there for to long even with the eye

and stab like that isnt enough to kill naruto

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