Has Naruto Really Surpassed Minato?

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SM NAruto > Sasuke and SM minato > Sasuke

they both dont even need to use BM for a fodder who killed by his own sword

Taking advantage of the fact that SMD will call us trolls no matter what are we?
 

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BSM Naruto flattens any form of Minato while flipping burgers on a grill while writing Mozart level compositions while casually busting mountains like they're tissue boxes and then proceeding to stab Minato with his own Kunai while simultaneously taking his Hokage jacket.

Still the most accurate post in this thread. :cool:
 

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Naruto slaughters alive Minato ( are we comparing alive minato ( vs tobi) or Minato with dark Kuruma
-Lets only apply feats and compare them that way ( I am going to compare Naruto to the Minato that fought Tobi ( since his Sage Mode Has no Feats)

Speed

1) Footspeed - is comparable to Raikage - meaning in RM he has better footspeed than Minato ( Minato needed Hiraishin to dodge raikage ) - and cloaked Biju Mode is faster than RM.

2) Reaction - in SM Naruto was able to react to third raikage jab, in BSM Naruto sensed Juubito ( mach 150 +) - Minato best reaction feat is against fourth raikage fastest punch ( he didnot react fast enough to physically dodge- just activate his justu) Both have great reaction feats, however Naruto has emotion sensing, he knew where obito was the second he warped, implying that he should not have a problem sensing Minato the second he uses Hiraishin- giving naruto better reaction cababilities.

3) Enhanced Speed- Both have been compared, but obviusly Minato is faster using his hiraishin. the problem is that MInato has to move to his marked locations, and naruto uses pure speed, so he can be more versatile.

4) Attacking Speed- Naruto's attacks are massibley faster than Minato's. Minato's fasterst attacking move is the rasengan which hits the opponent as fast as MInato can swing his arm. Naruto's odama senpo rasenshurken went from above the cloudline, to hashirama's + madaras location ( other side of a large island sized crater) in moments-making it massivley hypersonic. furthermore, Naruto's chakra arms are incredibly fast, he grabbed Sasuke and Minato right before Juubito attacked ( juubito was in his face, about to strike- and juubito is mach 150+ )- naruto can control his rasenshuriken via arms, making it atleast about as fast as they move.

Analysis: naruto has faster foot speed and reaction speed, however with his enhanced speed Minato moves faster-however naruto has advanced sensing ( emotion) meaning that he shouldnot be easily surprised by a faster minato.- furthermore naruto's attackking speed is massively faster than Minato's.

Destructive Capacity

1) Naruto is leagues above Minato ( living Minato without dark kuruma) - Average kurama bijudama is a mountain buster, Minato's strongest shown destructive justu is the rasengan which is probably a very large boulder buster ( destroyed ground against obito).

Analysis: This is obvious, Minato's strongest attack is barely stronger than naruto's weakest offensive ninjustu- naurto's strongest is dozens of hundreds times stronger than his father .

Technique/Skills

A) Minato
1.basic ninja skills
2.hiraishin + varients
3.space time barrier
4.rasengan
5.fuinjustu knowledge
6. summoning
7. Senjustu ( no feats)

B) Naruto
1.Basic ninja skills
2.shadow clone justu x(1000 +)
3.rasengan + variants
4.bijudama + variants
5.mastery of henge
6. Sage Mode ( supposed mastery + has feats )
7.summoning

Ninjustu-Naruto has much more versatility and more powerfull moves than his father
taijustu-sage sensing ( naruto enter sage mode near instantly) frog fu is leagues above his father
genjustu-both have no feats, however genjustu doesnot work on Naruto because he is a perfect host
fuijunustu-Minato is obviously superior

Note: considering both share contracts, I am going to assume this ability to be void

Analysis: lets look a the strongest justu these to shinobi have and the counters. -BSM Naruto should have the sensing + reacting capacity +( knowledge of hiraishin) to appropriatly respond to hirashin. -However, naruto's strongest attack, Minato can counter- with a space/time barrier
However, Minato can only counter so many bijudama's - a bijudama barrage ( 6+ bijudama) would overwhelm MInato. Furthermore-Minato doesnot have a answer to Naruto's senpo odama rasengan barrage- he cannot warp that many attacks- nor does he have durability to tank it. The best he could do would be to warp away.- however, if we assume a neutral battlefield, he wouldnot have any preset kunai- meaning that he would be unable to warp away too far- only throwing distance of his kunai- which means he has no counter to bijudama barrage or rasengan barrage. Naruto surpasses his dad in ninjustu,taijustu, and genjustu (resistance) - all the main shinobi arts.

Durability

1. Minato was pierced by kurama's claw- and has no tanking feats to speak off. Naruto in SM tanked falling off a cliff into a bed of spikes, BM has the durability to tank a mountain busting bijudama-

Analysis: Minato has no attack that can harm Naruto, any serious attack from naruto would eithor severly handicap or outright kill Minato.



Conclusion
-Minato has no way to hurt a BM naruto, while naurto has multiple ways to kill his father.
-In the end it will come down to Minato warping around, and naurto trying to hit his father.
-Naruto has techniques that have large enough AOE, to destroy the entire area that Minato would be able to teleport to ( throwing distance)
-Minato can warp the bijudama away, however he has no counter to kuruma roar, bijudama barrage, rasengan barrage etc...
-naruto can create BM clones in order to stall, if he needs time to charge up a bijudama.
 
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this is the type of stupidty that has ruined this site


Nah your shit Uchiha wanking threads is the stupidity that ruined this site. Unless you want to tell me a version of Minato that beat BSM Naruto.
 

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rasengan cant kill lol but a full speed frog kata punch can + kunai only kill fodder while rasenshuriken ends your ninja career

naruto been surpassed dude
 

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Naruto slaughters alive Minato ( are we comparing alive minato ( vs tobi) or Minato with dark Kuruma
-Lets only apply feats and compare them that way ( I am going to compare Naruto to the Minato that fought Tobi ( since his Sage Mode Has no Feats)

Speed

1) Footspeed - is comparable to Raikage - meaning in RM he has better footspeed than Minato ( Minato needed Hiraishin to dodge raikage ) - and cloaked Biju Mode is faster than RM.

2) Reaction - in SM Naruto was able to react to third raikage jab, in BSM Naruto sensed Juubito ( mach 150 +) - Minato best reaction feat is against fourth raikage fastest punch ( he didnot react fast enough to physically dodge- just activate his justu) Both have great reaction feats, however Naruto has emotion sensing, he knew where obito was the second he warped, implying that he should not have a problem sensing Minato the second he uses Hiraishin- giving naruto better reaction cababilities.

3) Enhanced Speed- Both have been compared, but obviusly Minato is faster using his hiraishin. the problem is that MInato has to move to his marked locations, and naruto uses pure speed, so he can be more versatile.

4) Attacking Speed- Naruto's attacks are massibley faster than Minato's. Minato's fasterst attacking move is the rasengan which hits the opponent as fast as MInato can swing his arm. Naruto's odama senpo rasenshurken went from above the cloudline, to hashirama's + madaras location ( other side of a large island sized crater) in moments-making it massivley hypersonic. furthermore, Naruto's chakra arms are incredibly fast, he grabbed Sasuke and Minato right before Juubito attacked ( juubito was in his face, about to strike- and juubito is mach 150+ )- naruto can control his rasenshuriken via arms, making it atleast about as fast as they move.

Analysis: naruto has faster foot speed and reaction speed, however with his enhanced speed Minato moves faster-however naruto has advanced sensing ( emotion) meaning that he shouldnot be easily surprised by a faster minato.- furthermore naruto's attackking speed is massively faster than Minato's.

Destructive Capacity

1) Naruto is leagues above Minato ( living Minato without dark kuruma) - Average kurama bijudama is a mountain buster, Minato's strongest shown destructive justu is the rasengan which is probably a very large boulder buster ( destroyed ground against obito).

Analysis: This is obvious, Minato's strongest attack is barely stronger than naruto's weakest offensive ninjustu- naurto's strongest is dozens of hundreds times stronger than his father .

Technique/Skills

A) Minato
1.basic ninja skills
2.hiraishin + varients
3.space time barrier
4.rasengan
5.fuinjustu knowledge
6. summoning
7. Senjustu ( no feats)

B) Naruto
1.Basic ninja skills
2.shadow clone justu x(1000 +)
3.rasengan + variants
4.bijudama + variants
5.mastery of henge
6. Sage Mode ( supposed mastery + has feats )
7.summoning

Ninjustu-Naruto has much more versatility and more powerfull moves than his father
taijustu-sage sensing ( naruto enter sage mode near instantly) frog fu is leagues above his father
genjustu-both have no feats, however genjustu doesnot work on Naruto because he is a perfect host
fuijunustu-Minato is obviously superior

Note: considering both share contracts, I am going to assume this ability to be void

Analysis: lets look a the strongest justu these to shinobi have and the counters. -BSM Naruto should have the sensing + reacting capacity +( knowledge of hiraishin) to appropriatly respond to hirashin. -However, naruto's strongest attack, Minato can counter- with a space/time barrier
However, Minato can only counter so many bijudama's - a bijudama barrage ( 6+ bijudama) would overwhelm MInato. Furthermore-Minato doesnot have a answer to Naruto's senpo odama rasengan barrage- he cannot warp that many attacks- nor does he have durability to tank it. The best he could do would be to warp away.- however, if we assume a neutral battlefield, he wouldnot have any preset kunai- meaning that he would be unable to warp away too far- only throwing distance of his kunai- which means he has no counter to bijudama barrage or rasengan barrage. Naruto surpasses his dad in ninjustu,taijustu, and genjustu (resistance) - all the main shinobi arts.

Durability

1. Minato was pierced by kurama's claw- and has no tanking feats to speak off. Naruto in SM tanked falling off a cliff into a bed of spikes, BM has the durability to tank a mountain busting bijudama-

Analysis: Minato has no attack that can harm Naruto, any serious attack from naruto would eithor severly handicap or outright kill Minato.



Conclusion
-Minato has no way to hurt a BM naruto, while naurto has multiple ways to kill his father.
-In the end it will come down to Minato warping around, and naurto trying to hit his father.
-Naruto has techniques that have large enough AOE, to destroy the entire area that Minato would be able to teleport to ( throwing distance)
-Minato can warp the bijudama away, however he has no counter to kuruma roar, bijudama barrage, rasengan barrage etc...
-naruto can create BM clones in order to stall, if he needs time to charge up a bijudama.
you my friend are delusional
 

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And ? Of course SM Naruto is more durable than base minato do you even know what durability is?

He's saying why not compare base Minato to base Naruto, not sage naruto vs base Minato.
 

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Don't call someone delusional if you have no counters to their argument minato has been surpassed whether you like it or not.

says the kid who think sm naurto>minato

and calls me a troll


ot- naruto hasnt surpassed minato and has nothing on him
 
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