Has Jiraiya's Katon been surpassed?

[~Puppet Master~]

Wait what ? Madaras Fire Style is 3-5 times bigger and I bet it is a lot more destructive, Giant Todes can't compare with God of Uchihas man.

But Jiraiya's jutsu is combined with oil, which makes it far more destructive. This fire style jutsu that Madara and Obito used was blockable with a chakra cloak.

 

[Zyynn]

So, no one's going to mention the difference in size of the Juubi and Gamabunta? I...hate...you...all. Idiots.
@Arian Good job. You understand.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought about the perspective/size of each battlefield and the distance from which they can be seen.

 

[MrLukyso]

But Jiraiya's jutsu is combined with oil, which makes it far more destructive. This fire style jutsu that Madara and Obito used was blockable with a chakra cloak.

So what ? That Jirayas Katon did what? Nearly destroyed Manda ? A freaking Summon that's not even that powerful ?

Look Uchihas are best at Katon it was stated by Manga countless times, Madara is strongest Uchiha ever born, so yeah, that's simple logic.

Oil or not Jirayas katon falls in compare with Madaras.

 

[PredictionGuru]

Since gamabunta is about the size of.juubis head its pretty clear that both obito and madara have katonjutsus far huger then jirayas and gamabuntas combined attack. however since that attack was a combination of fire and oil i assume its power is higher(meaning it has either more heat or cant do greater damage in general)

So, no one's going to mention the difference in size of the Juubi and Gamabunta? I...hate...you...all. Idiots.
@Arian Good job. You understand.

This should end the thread.

Don't post any more.
Thank you.

 

[Uzumaki Tarein]

Never the less... These are Uchiha we're talking about... they are bound to have a greater katon technique that Ero-Sennin

 

[pateuvasiliu]

So what ? That Jirayas Katon did what? Nearly destroyed Manda ? A freaking Summon that's not even that powerful ?

Well, if you're going to be like that, I could say that those 2 huge katons didn't hurt people shrouded in a V1 cloak, whereas CM2 Sasuke's Chidori managed to take Naruto out.

By that logic CM2 Sasuke's Chidori is stronger than those katons and that's dumb.

Manda had incredible durability shown when he survived C0 and died from its wounds. If it was forced to shed skin obviously the jutsu is strong.

 

[ntel]

ZZ who cares,leave Jirayia alone,the guy needs some credit atleast comeon

 

[iRefleX]

He was using oil from the toads. now give that oil to Madara and you'll see how big his fire style becomes

 

[pateuvasiliu]

He was using oil from the toads. now give that oil to Madara and you'll see how big his fire style becomes

Madara has senju DNA and infinite chakra.

That's enough of a boost.

 

[blazekev90]

So what ? That Jirayas Katon did what? Nearly destroyed Manda ? A freaking Summon that's not even that powerful ?

Look Uchihas are best at Katon it was stated by Manga countless times, Madara is strongest Uchiha ever born, so yeah, that's simple logic.

Oil or not Jirayas katon falls in compare with Madaras.

You Sound like a mad fanboy! A summoning who wasn't strong, yet body was able to stay intact after Deidara's Co explosion -_-

 

[Exaar]

How can a non Uchiha have better fire style than an Uchiha?

Makes no sense. Jiraiya's was never any better.

uchiha's are know for their strong affinity with fire, This doesn't automatically make them better than everyone else.

 

[captainEO]

uchiha's are know for their strong affinity with fire, This doesn't automatically make them better than everyone else.

Still, as a high level Uchiha, I'd be quite ashamed if someone from another clan had better Katon than I

Besides, Uchiha have Amaterasu

 

[Ariunbold]

Fire+oil>>Fire.
Jiraiya is still the boss U_U

This =D

 

[GofOfNothing]

Someone I dont remember posted this picture on an other thread.
Here you can see the difference:
This is Jiraiyas Katon

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You can see Jiraiya on the right side of the Page.
And now look at this:

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The fire is too big to see Madara or Obito (the red circle).
Obviously Madaras Fire Jutsu > Jiraiyas

Even though I respect Jiraiya and know how strong he is...come on its Madara you know... The name of him is enough to let people shit in their pants

 

[GreyWizard93]

Uchiha may be the best at katon
but jiraiya with oil >> uchiha katon.

That katon in the picture above used by jiraiya is bigger.

 

[S A G E]

You can't compare jiraiyas fire based on only these.
What we can compare is that Obito seems to have a comparable fire techniques just like madaras.
Yet people keep underestimating Obito..................... :scorps:

 

[zesto]

its obvious that Jiriaya's katon is much smaller it took a toad oil boost to make it mega big and it isn't on par with Obito nor Madara.... guys look closer

 

[zesto]

Uchiha may be the best at katon
but jiraiya with oil >> uchiha katon.

That katon in the picture above used by jiraiya is bigger.

dude pervy sage katon is much smaller whats wrong with you, both uchiha katon covers a longer range, Jiriaya fire power made be a bit wider at the front piece but it doesn't take a fool to realize that even when being powered by oil it doesn't goes further in distance and covers a wider ranger

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

Well his was surpassed ny Madra the 1st time Madara jumped forward and unleashed the 1st fire attack he did thus yes he had

 

[shelke]

Katon: Gouka Mekkyaku -

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and Katon: Kouka Messhitsu:

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. This -

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- is most certainly Messhitsu. Look at the field size and perspective. Jiraiya's Katon attack is laughable in comparison. Most of you need a good pair of spectacles. There is no contest here. Madara's Katon attacks cover such a immense area. I would say the same for Obito as well. Stop over rating Jiraiya.