Harashima Senju VS Nagato(pain)

[Draegod]

Im a bigger hashirama supporter (look at my history), but... ima have to say nagato with the 6 paths of pain fighting first! if you say nagato vs so and so, you have to put the 6 paths first then opponent finds/fights the real nagato. simple as that. if any body want to argue go ahead... ill help you out with some feats i research on hashirama that he might have (backed up ofc), good luck..

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[arv993]

Im a bigger hashirama supporter (look at my history), but... ima have to say nagato with the 6 paths of pain fighting first! if you say nagato vs so and so, you have to put the 6 paths first then opponent finds/fights the real nagato. simple as that. if any body want to argue go ahead... ill help you out with some feats i research on hashirama that he might have (backed up ofc), good luck..

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hashirama vs nagato cannot be determined without full info we can only go by speculation right now dude.

 

[Draegod]

hashirama vs nagato cannot be determined without full info we can only go by speculation right now dude.

i know that. we all know that. this all is make beleive fights anyway. what im saying is i did my research unlike most of you to have atleast something that the guy might have. and even when we do find everything out, i still dont see hashi defeating nagato at full with the 6 paths.

 

[arv993]

i know that. we all know that. this all is make beleive fights anyway. what im saying is i did my research unlike most of you to have atleast something that the guy might have. and even when we do find everything out, i still dont see hashi defeating nagato at full with the 6 paths.

why not he might have techs we never even heard of he is the greatest senju after all and beat madara and took the nine tails on too. i don't think pain would beat someone at that level considering how strong madara was.

 

[Paradox Ruler]

basically every ninjutsu hashirama uses is useless and so far his mokuton is what heknown for so he just feeding pain if he uses wood release

 

[arv993]

basically every ninjutsu hashirama uses is useless and so far his mokuton is what heknown for so he just feeding pain if he uses wood release

he has genjutsu also u kno that he got the 3rd with and he also has good taijutsu. he might also kno fuinjutsu bceus he had close ties with the uzunmaki clan so we never kno how strong he truly was.

 

[Blaze Release]

why not he might have techs we never even heard of he is the greatest senju after all and beat madara and took the nine tails on too. i don't think pain would beat someone at that level considering how strong madara was.

People need to stop making assumptions for the character they think might win and actually go by what theyve seen saw far from them. There is no doubt that hashimara has other technqiues up his sleeves, but so those the rennigan. For now we are going by what weve seen from both and its clear that nagato would win.

Both nagato and hashimaru make up my top10 strongest characters but whilst nagato is at the top end hashimaru is at the bottom end, nevertheless two top10 ninja's

 

[Paradox Ruler]

he has genjutsu also u kno that he got the 3rd with and he also has good taijutsu. he might also kno fuinjutsu bceus he had close ties with the uzunmaki clan so we never kno how strong he truly was.

nagato can use the animal path the camelion and the dog if he uses that genjutsu and nagato just needs to focus to use his other senses to fight back
or he can use shinra tensa to hit hashirama

 

[Amantius]

:shrug:lets see now, since madara control pain the whole time hmm, and madara was defeated bye the first hokage, hmmm lets see senju wins o.0(turns the whole field in to wood then use fire style boom)

 

[arv993]

nagato can use the animal path the camelion and the dog if he uses that genjutsu and nagato just needs to focus to use his other senses to fight back
or he can use shinra tensa to hit hashirama

how are those animals gonna help him from a genjutsu like that, he ohas been caught by gennjutsu b4(aka jiraya's genjutsu) and could be gotten by techs of high lvl like that again.

 

[Paradox Ruler]

:shrug:lets see now, since madara control pain the whole time hmm, and madara was defeated bye the first hokage, hmmm lets see senju wins o.0(turns the whole field in to wood then use fire style boom)

preta path is the answer

 

[Allan Hoshigaki]

:shrug:lets see now, since madara control pain the whole time hmm, and madara was defeated bye the first hokage, hmmm lets see senju wins o.0(turns the whole field in to wood then use fire style boom)

and not onceyou dont think shrina tensei can blow all that shit away

 

[Paradox Ruler]

how are those animals gonna help him from a genjutsu like that, he ohas been caught by gennjutsu b4(aka jiraya's genjutsu) and could be gotten by techs of high lvl like that again.

simple minded creatures are not affected by genjutsu like dogs
the camelion cna turn invisable to attack hashirama and the dog can also attack hashirama

 

[Allan Hoshigaki]

how are those animals gonna help him from a genjutsu like that, he ohas been caught by gennjutsu b4(aka jiraya's genjutsu) and could be gotten by techs of high lvl like that again.

you gonna need more than just genjustu to beat nagato/pain. even jiriyia realized that. pain can fight you with 3 bodies. and have the other six watching you no blind spots shared vison the entire time. explain how hashirama would survive chibaki tensei

 

[arv993]

you gonna need more than just genjustu to beat nagato/pain. even jiriyia realized that

simple minded creatures are not affected by genjutsu like dogs
the camelion cna turn invisable to attack hashirama and the dog can also attack hashirama

who told you that nagato is not immune to genjutsu dude

those dogs are nothing and would just get caught in wood and they can be put in genjutsu also but either way they are not a big obstacle.

 

[Draegod]

why not he might have techs we never even heard of he is the greatest senju after all and beat madara and took the nine tails on too. i don't think pain would beat someone at that level considering how strong madara was.

and pain is the most complete ninja, and have more feats that outclass almost everyninja. he probably does have something badass we havent seen, but im sure its nothing nagato cannot counter. all ninjutsu=useless, close combat useless aswell, chakra could be a tie i suppose, etc etc.

just because madara had ems doent mean he was the best. i put nagato/pain above ems madara aswell if you really wanna know. ems only gives eternal light from the dark and 1 new ms tech. that doesnt mean auto win, if thats the case then ems sasuke would be over everyone correct????????

pain could easily take on the kyubi, and btw the 1st is just over the kyubi so im not talking about the kyubi in this equation.

eevrybody knows a jinjuriki with control over there bijuu is over just a bijuu. and nagato held his own vs 6 tails, 8 tails, and full kyubi naruto. off of what i know now, id 100000% say nagato

 

[arv993]

you gonna need more than just genjustu to beat nagato/pain. even jiriyia realized that. pain can fight you with 3 bodies. and have the other six watching you no blind spots shared vison the entire time. explain how hashirama would survive chibaki tensei

idk all hashirama's powers so that is why i am saying this battle cannot be settled but i don't see how they can get out of his genjutsu though.

 

[Paradox Ruler]

who told you that nagato is not immune to genjutsu dude

those dogs are nothing and would just get caught in wood and they can be put in genjutsu also but either way they are not a big obstacle.

those dogs would shred the wood and would just attack hashirama and if they got acaught the camellion can attack hashirama,lets not forget the rhino what will his wood do to that.plus nagato can use shinra to hit hashirama to release him from the jutsu.

 

[arv993]

and pain is the most complete ninja, and have more feats that outclass almost everyninja. he probably does have something badass we havent seen, but im sure its nothing nagato cannot counter. all ninjutsu=useless, close combat useless aswell, chakra could be a tie i suppose, etc etc.

just because madara had ems doent mean he was the best. i put nagato/pain above ems madara aswell if you really wanna know. ems only gives eternal light from the dark and 1 new ms tech. that doesnt mean auto win, if thats the case then ems sasuke would be over everyone correct????????

pain could easily take on the kyubi, and btw the 1st is just over the kyubi so im not talking about the kyubi in this equation.

eevrybody knows a jinjuriki with control over there bijuu is over just a bijuu. and nagato held his own vs 6 tails, 8 tails, and full kyubi naruto. off of what i know now, id 100000% say nagato

madara ems is better than nagato himself nagato cannot even hit the guy and back then madara was complete much stronger than what tobi is right now. he is better than nagato dude, nagato has weaknesses like mobility and maybe genjutsu. but his powers arew amazing he is up there but hashirama seems to be higher than him IMo and madara ems most definitely is. and nagato did not fight a full 8 tails minato stopped b4 it fully got to fight nagato and he was in a bad spot at that point doubt he can go agianst a full 9 tails and win.

 

[arv993]

those dogs would shred the wood and would just attack hashirama and if they got acaught the camellion can attack hashirama,lets not forget the rhino what will his wood do to that.plus nagato can use shinra to hit hashirama to release him from the jutsu.

hitting hashirama without being able to see him and hashirama can defend himself too with his wood. this wood can restrain tailedd beasts a bunch of summons are nothing compared to it.