Harashima Senju VS Nagato(pain)

[Luther]

yes that plays a part aswell but the thread said hashirama vs nagato no tailed beasts at all. but th bijuu would defiently play a serious part but then again. nagato can summon gedo mezo and when he used that against hanzou and danzou whoa serious techniqeue

i am the thread starter and just bcus i didnt list that doesnt mean its excluded so each at its full powers

 

[kakashitachi]

ill say this. Nagato is the eyes of the So6p and hashirama is the physical body and sould of so6p. Hashirama has super strength and endurance so to think shinra tensei could beat him so easily is false in my opinion. And Hashirama has the ability to control all the bijuu and that would tear his summons apart all well as his moon technique and pain himself. not to mention his mokuton...and It is hashirama vs pain thread but the ability to control the bijuu is part of his ability

 

[tiptop]

Harashima mokuto destroys nagato

no, shinra tensai cant be avoided by anyone so HUSH ya noise , mokuton wont reach him. face reality people .

 

[Blaze Release]

If hashimara like naruto had enough info on nagato's abilities, help from kanoha ninjas and weakness then id call draw.Whatever happens hashimara cannot win, if nagato fights at 100%.

Against naruto, nagato had already wasted alot of chakra fighting and killing kanoha ninjas, then used the ultimate shira tensei to completely destroy the village, which greatly weakened him, yet he fought and successfully captured naruto in sage mode. Then fought with 1/6 of his strength (god realm only) on par with 8 tail mode naruto, before dying due to extremely low chakra when he revived everybody he killed in konoha.

If hashimara had naruto's intel and lets assume he was working alone, it would be extremely hard for him to fight the 6paths and at the same time locate where nagato his hidden, if he does eventually figure out where he is, he would be killed off due to his low chakra left, similar with jiraiya.

Naruto needed all the help he can get from jiraiya, the kanoha ninja's that figured out where pain is located and the demon fox whom without naruto wouldve been captured.

 

[Allan Hoshigaki]

shinra tensei can't hurt him that badly and he can defend himself with mokuton and the one nagato used against konoha takes way more time and leaves him vulnerable. And we don't kno all about hashirama so we cannot decide how hard is that to understand. hashirama is good at all 3 genjutsu, ninjutsu and taijutsu so he can fight him and win but we need more info on the guy but one thing he is obviously strong and his wife was not there he took on madara and nine tails on the same time.

okay lets get this clear hashirama has no info on how the pains work. one pain can shrina tensei. 2 pain can basho tenin(universal pull) 3rd one can absorb any ninjutsu. 4th is human path ( which we seen naruto almost got killed in) 5th can summon a bunch of frickin animals including a dog that multiplies when being hit. and the last one can heal any pain body that has been doestroyed, and the 6th one is just a reckless pain with physical attacks bombs etc. now if hashirama does not have any info on how these bodies work he will die. also with all six bodys there no blind spots. now we seen alittle of how hashirama fights from whe orochimaru attacked the leaf and summoned both of the hokages. so weve seen a alittle and know about his ablities. and nagato wins if you dont have any info on him and how his bodies works you lost.

as for hashirama having control of the fox read this link below

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that should answer your own question and if your still in denial there is no hope for you.

 

[Allan Hoshigaki]

ill say this. Nagato is the eyes of the So6p and hashirama is the physical body and sould of so6p. Hashirama has super strength and endurance so to think shinra tensei could beat him so easily is false in my opinion. And Hashirama has the ability to control all the bijuu and that would tear his summons apart all well as his moon technique and pain himself. not to mention his mokuton...and It is hashirama vs pain thread but the ability to control the bijuu is part of his ability

but what bijuu would be around for him to take . this is a battle between them bijuu arent anywhere around. he just said he has the poer to control them nothing about them being there

 

[Allan Hoshigaki]

If hashimara like naruto had enough info on nagato's abilities, help from kanoha ninjas and weakness then id call draw.Whatever happens hashimara cannot win, if nagato fights at 100%.

Against naruto, nagato had already wasted alot of chakra fighting and killing kanoha ninjas, then used the ultimate shira tensei to completely destroy the village, which greatly weakened him, yet he fought and successfully captured naruto in sage mode. Then fought with 1/6 of his strength (god realm only) on par with 8 tail mode naruto, before dying due to extremely low chakra when he revived everybody he killed in konoha.

If hashimara had naruto's intel and lets assume he was working alone, it would be extremely hard for him to fight the 6paths and at the same time locate where nagato his hidden, if he does eventually figure it where he is, he would be killed off due to his low chakra left, similar with jiraiya.

Naruto needed all the help he can get from jiraiya, the kanoha ninja's that figured out where pain is located and the demon fox whom without naruto wouldve been captured.

Thank you at least someone here understands Pains power and the helped naruto needed to defeat him not one but twice even first time konoha saved him second itachi did

 

[~MC117~]

I'm gonna have to choose Harashima senju just because I'm sure he was smarter and a better fighter then Nagato.

 

[Paradox Ruler]

nagato will win his ocular power's are something else do you want preta path to absorb mokuton for fun
he can brong hashirama to him and control him with his chakra and use the nakara path to try to kill him with the judgement of truth or asura,animal and etc

 

[Allan Hoshigaki]

nagato will win his ocular power's are something else do you want preta path to absorb mokuton for fun
he can brong hashirama to him and control him with his chakra and use the nakara path to try to kill him with the judgement of truth or asura,animal and etc

wow no one could of said this any better

 

[kadowade]

Harashirama defeated "MADARA" And the 9 tails. And Pain couldnt even defeat Naruto in 6 tails. Seriously Harashima Beat Madara in his prime. No one can't even beat Madara in his weakened state. (Only a couple ppl have a "Chance").

Hashirama was a "Beast" why do you think everyone wants or got his DNA:
Madara got some.
Orochimaru got his hands on some, and tested it on Yamoto
And Danzou also has his DNA.

 

[Paradox Ruler]

Harashirama defeated "MADARA" And the 9 tails. And Pain couldnt even defeat Naruto in 6 tails. Seriously Harashima Beat Madara in his prime. No one can't even beat Madara in his weakened state. (Only a couple ppl have a "Chance").

Hashirama was a "Beast" why do you think everyone wants or got his DNA:
Madara got some.
Orochimaru got his hands on some, and tested it on Yamoto
And Danzou also has his DNA.

it's becuase of whatt it does to alter jutsu(madara,danzo the reason for them is to use sharingan power's properly and to cometo have the sage body)
well madara went after nagato eyes he even went to near death against konan to get nagato rinnegan, just like how he wanted hashirama dna.

nagato was in somany fights and actually allowed naruto to get mad to awaken the nine tails if you didnt relize it so that he can tire the beast and contain it because nagato chakra is immense.nagato was actaully doing good against the nine tails that's why it even went to the it's eight tail form.

 

[arv993]

okay lets get this clear hashirama has no info on how the pains work. one pain can shrina tensei. 2 pain can basho tenin(universal pull) 3rd one can absorb any ninjutsu. 4th is human path ( which we seen naruto almost got killed in) 5th can summon a bunch of frickin animals including a dog that multiplies when being hit. and the last one can heal any pain body that has been doestroyed, and the 6th one is just a reckless pain with physical attacks bombs etc. now if hashirama does not have any info on how these bodies work he will die. also with all six bodys there no blind spots. now we seen alittle of how hashirama fights from whe orochimaru attacked the leaf and summoned both of the hokages. so weve seen a alittle and know about his ablities. and nagato wins if you dont have any info on him and how his bodies works you lost.

as for hashirama having control of the fox read this link below

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that should answer your own question and if your still in denial there is no hope for you.

this is nagato not pain and hashirama sealed the nine tails after the fight in his fight becus he gained it in his fought against madara. nagato is great and so is hashirama and we do not kno all his abilities and seeing how he beat madara and nine tails(took control of it) he is obviously strong and even tobi acknowledges that. ur argument cannot hold true until u see all their powers.

 

[Paradox Ruler]

this is nagato not pain and hashirama sealed the nine tails after the fight in his fight becus he gained it in his fought against madara. nagato is great and so is hashirama and we do not kno all his abilities and seeing how he beat madara and nine tails(took control of it) he is obviously strong and even tobi acknowledges that. ur argument cannot hold true until u see all their powers.

it says pain in the thread title
where did you even get that hashirama sealed the beast(he only could contain it)

 

[arv993]

it says pain in the thread title

it says nagato by the opener and also in the poll and he put pain in parentheses cos some ppl refer to nagato like that. but its nagato vs hashirama and thats what the OP said too.

 

[arv993]

it says pain in the thread title
where did you even get that hashirama sealed the beast(he only could contain it)

wel not sealed as in like minato does but i meant mito sealed it in her body. hashirama might kno sealing but i guess mito sealed it in herself. he controls it too not only contains it.

 

[Allan Hoshigaki]

this is nagato not pain and hashirama sealed the nine tails after the fight in his fight becus he gained it in his fought against madara. nagato is great and so is hashirama and we do not kno all his abilities and seeing how he beat madara and nine tails(took control of it) he is obviously strong and even tobi acknowledges that. ur argument cannot hold true until u see all their powers.

it says pain in the title thread and you dont know how to read the manga fully states

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during thier fight hashirama gained control to better aid him. that is during the fight not after not before during . "hashirama sealed the nine tails after the fight in his fight becus he gained it in his fought against madara". this is what u wrote and it makes no sense. and it also fully stats hasirama wife sealed it in her not hashirama sealing it

 

[Paradox Ruler]

it says nagato by the opener and also in the poll and he put pain in parentheses cos some ppl refer to nagato like that. but its nagato vs hashirama and thats what the OP said too.

wel not sealed as in like minato does but i meant mito sealed it in her body. hashirama might kno sealing but i guess mito sealed it in herself. he controls it too not only contains it.

ok

 

[arv993]

it says pain in the title thread and you dont know how to read the manga fully states

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during thier fight hashirama gained control to better aid him. that is during the fight not after not before during . "hashirama sealed the nine tails after the fight in his fight becus he gained it in his fought against madara". this is what u wrote and it makes no sense

u read it properly it says he gained it during the fight not that she was there to fighting against madara in the battlefield. it was a fight between madara and hsahirama only not mito as well. he then controls it and she sealed it in herself not right there in the battlefield. and the OP says nagato.

 

[kakashitachi]

but what bijuu would be around for him to take . this is a battle between them bijuu arent anywhere around. he just said he has the poer to control them nothing about them being there

good point. you got me there