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Nehru was close to Gandhi we all know that, but probably Gandhi choose him as PM candidate, because he saw something 'different' in him. Subhash chandra Bose was forced to resign due to the confrontation of thoughts with Gandhi. This in fact, is due to their different thoughts about independence, and both of them were correct at same
point of time, and that's how I interpret it. I rather see this decision from Gandhi as a good decision, because what is wrong in forming different camps work for same goal rather than having different thoughts and leading to conflict.
Even if both of them had different thoughts about independence both of them never insulted each other, I don't remember Gandhi insulting Bose or vise versa. It is the fault of modern Congress leaders as they fail to understand meaning behind Gandhi choosing Nehru over Bose. Nehru and Patel had the same conflict of thoughts due to different view towards secularism, but they never let that affect the functioning of government.
But at the end of the day one may disagree as it is personal view.:yeah:
Because the reason is psychology of people, it isn't fault of Gandhi, and it is there in our neighbouring countries as well,(even if there wasn't any Gandhi).
@bold never said that.You actually misunderstood my statement there, his movement=his movements, such as Dandi Yatra and all. Even if his movements were cancelled half away they did left the impact on the independence movement, and we have to give him credit for that. Talking about INA, it is again matter of conflict and misunderstandings.
Anyways you do hate Gandhi a lot, don't you?
There is a lot of speculation on why Gandhi chose Nehru over Sardar.Gandhi saw Nehru as modern leader and it is also said that Nehru blackmailed Gandhi that he will split the congress..whatever that was first stab on democracy.Nehru was said to be very good in diplomatic relationships but he did more damage than good things..Kashmir problem,1962 humiliation.
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You know the main difference of "thought" was that Subhash wanted to demand absolute freedom while Gandhi was looking for Dominion status for India while still under British rule. Don't you?
If British had agreed to give in to Gandhi's demand of conditional dominion status even partially instead of refusing it completely they wouldn't have started Quit India in the first place. Gandhi did ask for complete freedom later in 1942 finally because he couldn't resist the mass sentiment any longer. Another difference was that Subhash advocated planned industrialization while Gandhi's idea was to ignore it completely and concentrate on cottage industry alone.
Isn't the point of democracy is that the majority rules? Gandhi never liked if anyone else was in the lead at any point of time. Remind me one occasion when he didn't act like if' it was either his way or no way'. None of us do but usually we are supposed to let the one who won the election do their job and cooperate.
Gandhi in a characteristic way had declared a "personal" war against Bose. He declared his win against Pattabhi Sitarammiya as a personal loss and was sulking over it. The Congress Working committee was still controlled by the followers of Gandhi. Subhash left because Gandhi practiced his non cooperation in sessions.
Gandhi lead rest of India in to Khilafat movement when it was practically none of India's concern even, but a matter of another country and it ended with death of several people who didn't even know why.
How do you insult a person when you are at the stature of Gandhi and Subhash? Of course they are not going to stoop to name calling. But, Gandhi practically denied even the right to defend to INA leaders as far as he could.Even if both of them had different thoughts about independence both of them never insulted each other, I don't remember Gandhi insulting Bose or vise versa. It is the fault of modern Congress leaders as they fail to understand meaning behind Gandhi choosing Nehru over Bose. Nehru and Patel had the same conflict of thoughts due to different view towards secularism, but they never let that affect the functioning of government.
But at the end of the day one may disagree as it is personal view.:yeah:
Because the reason is psychology of people, it isn't fault of Gandhi, and it is there in our neighbouring countries as well,(even if there wasn't any Gandhi).
@bold never said that.You actually misunderstood my statement there, his movement=his movements, such as Dandi Yatra and all. Even if his movements were cancelled half away they did left the impact on the independence movement, and we have to give him credit for that. Talking about INA, it is again matter of conflict and misunderstandings.
Anyways you do hate Gandhi a lot, don't you?
Nehru was a different story. He gave Gandhi lip service it seems for Gandhi somehow believed that Nehru agreed with him. But Nehru followed the industrialization and in a way marginalized him.
I don't hate Gandhi. On the front of social reforms he took many initiatives that were great. And he gave the movement a face and it helped in rallying people around. I just think he is overhyped and his shortcomings are not only ignored but denied even when they are glaring at us. And I don't think much of his policies in political terms.
Sometime his role in the congress and Britain's behaviour towards the Naram dal reminds me of parents who have two kids one of which is more rebellious while another one obedient. Every time the rebellious one does something bad in eyes of parents the "good kid" gets a toffee. Now the supposed good kid didn't do anything extraordinary to receive it but got it because the other one was not listening and the parent wanted to teach that one a lesson.
And BTW have you studied Gandhi/Nehru/Tagore and Ambedakar in comparative terms? It's fun. Do so sometime.
In short You haven't read much at all- not even my post. I may be missing something and may be wrong or we may just have different POV on somethings. But I didn't present any conspiracy theory.
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Well yeah. im not reading ur posts.. Dem too long wallies >_>' And i was not refering to u wen i said Conspiracy theorist.. But i've read many books and articles of people trying to spoil the image of gandhi... Saying many contradicting things about his behaviour. Some even say Gandhi was a real pervy dude. at first i didnt know how to react on dat.. Lol. #People..
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