[Discussion] Hamura is Black Zestu according to MS

[RedRobin]

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MP doesnt imply that he is Hamura.

 

[Young Vongola]

BZ is not Hamura

 

[ThousandLegs]

where does it say that Black Zetsu is Hamura only that Kaguya is his Mother he could be a 3rd brother

 

[FoxesInWonderland]

Naruto and sasuke are gonna create another moon.. Black zestu will die ending the cycle of hatred

 

[Zantos]

i saw this and wondered for some time , but as you can see in the last panel ( left bottom ) BZ says " But on the verge of being sealed we were born "

so , this means black zetsu is different from hamura and hagemaru ! although i don't know why *********** uses plural form when BZ is talking , like "we" , "us" and ...

 

[RedRobin]

BZ is not Hamura

where does it say that Black Zetsu is Hamura only that Kaguya is his Mother he could be a 3rd brother

'Its appears she is reminded of her us, her own two sons'

I am not saying he is but that is what MS is implying.

 

[Frikid]

BZ is not Hamura

what he said ^

 

[Fuzzy Panda]

Yeah MS definitely made it seem that way, although i'm pretty sure it's a bad translation on their part. In terms of BZ and his relationship with Kaguya, I think MP did a better job.

 

[Alfred Pennyworth]

i saw this and wondered for some time , but as you can see in the last panel ( left bottom ) BZ says " But on the verge of being sealed we were born "

so , this means black zetsu is different from hamura and hagemaru ! although i don't know why *********** uses plural form when BZ is talking , like "we" , "us" and ...

I guess it makes the whole translation inconsistent...

 

[BigGuns Reloaded]

Reading comprehension really fell off

Context clues prove you lack reading ability

SonS NOT SON
Clearly black was born after the twins

 

[chopstickchakra]

'Its appears she is reminded of her us, her own two sons'

I am not saying he is but that is what MS is implying.

MS also has improper English like "She's reminded of her us, her own two sons." Also doesn't Black Zetsu confess later to being her will rather than Madara's will. How can he be her will personified as well as her son. I don't buy it. People say MS has better translations but lately MP has been better I think.

 

[Zantos]

I guess it makes the whole translation inconsistent...

yeah , sure it does ! i think the only solution is to wait for VIZ scans !

 

[Ultimateone]

i just read there version, and it's very inconsistent.

 

[ThilinaC]

i saw this and wondered for some time , but as you can see in the last panel ( left bottom ) BZ says " But on the verge of being sealed we were born "

so , this means black zetsu is different from hamura and hagemaru ! although i don't know why *********** uses plural form when BZ is talking , like "we" , "us" and ...

I think MS used plural form bcos when explaining the events both BZ that were on Naruto & Sasuke were talking and also talking about each other.Other than this cannot see a reason.

One more thing about the translations, so who stored Madara's body, BZ or Tobirama ? MS says BZ while MP says Tobirama.

 

[Draven]

where does it say that Black Zetsu is Hamura only that Kaguya is his Mother he could be a 3rd brother

or he could just a manifestation of kaguya that thinks on his own and just calls her mother

 

[Zantos]

I think MS used plural form bcos when explaining the events both BZ that were on Naruto & Sasuke were talking and also talking about each other.Other than this cannot see a reason.

One more thing about the translations, so who stored Madara's body, BZ or Tobirama ? MS says BZ while MP says Tobirama.

that seems to be the reason , yeah !

also i made a thread about this earlier today , if you want to take a look !

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[InvaderRaz]

He uses the plurals because he is a brother... not hamura, but a brother to them
MS and MP did shitty jobs this week, yea it's free but damn I need to see the viz of this week before I read nexts, there is to much unclear in what was said

 

[Trea]

I think he's saying us because he's talking through Naruto/Ashura and Sasuke/Indra which she and BZ see as an extension of her sons. BZ also sees himself as her son since she created the Zetsus. He probably sees himself as more of a child to her than Hagoromo and Hamura because he's been carrying out her will and they sealed her.

This raises another question though. BZ seems much more intelligent than the other Zetsus. Is that because of Kaguya's intelligence or did it retain some of the intelligence from whatever person it was before the white zetsu was created from that person?

I still think *********** and Manga Bee makes more sense than Manga Panda this week.

 

[Yellow Flash of Konoha]

Black zetsu is calling kaguya his mother because she "created" him!! Black zetsu is not Hamura!!

 

[ThilinaC]

that seems to be the reason , yeah !

also i made a thread about this earlier today , if you want to take a look !

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Lets wait for the Viz I guess since they are the official translator and publisher of Naruto comics in the rest of the world.