Hamura, Hyuuga and Uzumaki

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my theory is kaguya has red hair, since hagoromo and hamura too. where did i know hamura's is red? well madara's rikudou mode looks like hamura. obito was supposed to look like hagoromo but due to lack of kurama&gyuuki chakra, he didnt really look like hagoromo

and now we've seen in 681, hamura has byakugan. its quite obvious that his child will have the byakugan too, and he will become the ancestor of hyuuga

and i believe hamura will have another child. he/she then, would become the ancestor of uzumaki. because indra and ashura didnt have red hair, so it must be hamura's child.

and kaguya had a mass of chakra since she was the first to eat chakra fruit. so if, again, hagoromo, ashura and indra didnt have a big amount of chakra which is a speciality of uzumaki, then hamura and his child should.

in the end i believe its like this:
hagoromo (rinnegan): ashura (senju) and indra (uchiha, sharingan)
hamura (big amount of chakra + byakugan) = Uzumaki (big amount of chakra) + Hyuuga (byakugan)
 
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my theory is kaguya has red hair, since hagoromo and hamura too. where did i know hamura's is red? well madara's rikudou mode looks like hamura. obito was supposed to look like hagoromo but due to lack of kurama&gyuuki chakra, he didnt really look like hagoromo

and now we've seen in 681, hamura has byakugan. its quite obvious that his child will have the byakugan too, and he will become the ancestor of hyuuga

and i believe hamura will have another child. he/she then, would become the ancestor of uzumaki. because indra and ashura didnt have red hair, so it must be hamura's child.

and kaguya had a mass of chakra since she was the first to eat chakra fruit. so if, again, hagoromo, ashura and indra didnt have a big amount of chakra which is a speciality of uzumaki, then hamura and his child should.

in the end i believe its like this:
Hagoromo (rinnegan): ashura (senju) and indra (uchiha, sharingan)
hamura (big amount of chakra + byakugan) = Uzumaki (big amount of chakra) + Hyuuga (byakugan)
Fixed it for ya bro
 

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THE UZUMAKI WERE OFF BRANCHES OF THE SINJU!!! Wrong side of the family!
 

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THE UZUMAKI WERE OFF BRANCHES OF THE SINJU!!! Wrong side of the family!

then how could, a clan who is known with having such a big amount of chakra, can be off branches of shinju which is the beginning and source of chakra?
 

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No just distant relatives meaning theyre cousins of senju. Just like hyuga n uchica r like cousins

he said shinju not senju, i thought he ment senju at first too :)
 

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my theory is kaguya has red hair, since hagoromo and hamura too. where did i know hamura's is red? well madara's rikudou mode looks like hamura. obito was supposed to look like hagoromo but due to lack of kurama&gyuuki chakra, he didnt really look like hagoromo

and now we've seen in 681, hamura has byakugan. its quite obvious that his child will have the byakugan too, and he will become the ancestor of hyuuga

and i believe hamura will have another child. he/she then, would become the ancestor of uzumaki. because indra and ashura didnt have red hair, so it must be hamura's child.

and kaguya had a mass of chakra since she was the first to eat chakra fruit. so if, again, hagoromo, ashura and indra didnt have a big amount of chakra which is a speciality of uzumaki, then hamura and his child should.

in the end i believe its like this:
hagoromo (rinnegan): ashura (senju) and indra (uchiha, sharingan)
hamura (big amount of chakra + byakugan) = Uzumaki (big amount of chakra) + Hyuuga (byakugan)
Thx for posting this bcuz a lot of ppl r still confused even though the truth was revealed this morning
 

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Thats very good and I found that also in recent analysis of Naruto that what black zetsu shields light to on WHY these events occur the way they do and progress in this fashion because the black force of Kaguya lingered. It doesn't seem to be living like a human who eats and rests, its part of nature; the yin side. When trapped in the infinite tsukuyomi your chakra is dissipated and you become part of nature, the yang side. I feel like we knew madara was gonna be overtaken by kaguya when he absorbed the tree and a voice said The time to become one has come in 673. He does actually get his mind's eye until he takes his eye back from obito. I feel this is the origin of all chakra. THe holy tree is nature itself, somehow or another Kaguya is the daughter of nature, the Princess, she was actually human I believe and she ate the forbidden fruit,..
They always do, and attained the holy powers of those 4 clans, which essentially includes control over everything.

The Fruit at the top of the tree that bloom had an Ultimate Rinnegan in its center,
It's physical characteristics were that that the uchiha and senju portrayed.
I'm trying to say that it involved itself in "genjutsu" and space time, like obito's becoming intangible, space time in rinnegan users able to gravitate you, create black holes, MADARA RAINED BLACK HOLES, R.I.P., and able to bring the dead back to life, reverse time.
On the senju side, they were able to create mystical chakra at will, Tobirama CREATED in his respective ERA the teleportation, the Reanimation, The Shadow Clone.

It also has the uzumaki and hyuga inside it as it's hidden potential. Remember the First Hokage was very power, he knew wood style, he learned how to seal the Tailed beast, the Segmented Parts of The Angry Tree. Which was also his element, being him the transmigrant also only makes it right that he has some special powers involving them.

When She ate the apple I feel as tho, she normally had white eyes and its opened them to see people's insides.
It also gaves her an immense amount of chakra, much more than any tailed beast.
Than it opened her mind's eye, giving her sharingan, and senju which are rinnegan like abilities. Thats why she can teleport people, and rip holes in space and climb through them.

When she had children,.. personally I hope, she was pregnant, than ate the fruit, because Idk who the hell would do that.
But when she conceived it split the powers.
Hamura given a power, and Hagoromo given rinnegan.

They only shield light on Hagoromo's blood line and transmigrants because they have the ability to awaken the power Black Zetsu needs for the storyline.

Once these two figures have kids the powers split again and we have the 4 distinct bloodlines.

I feel if the Uzumaki and Hyuga bloodlines cross they will have the potential to unlock whatever Hamura's particular skillset was he given from Kaguya. Equal in power to the Rinnegan.

A mixture of those two would be a Kaguya born with that power, a true product of nature.
 

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possible, but wouldn't sasuke be more like hagoromo since he's descended from that side of the family. (the senju x uchiha) and naruto more like hamura? (the uzumaki and hyuga)
 

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THE UZUMAKI WERE OFF BRANCHES OF THE SINJU!!! Wrong side of the family!

Stop it the Uzumaki and the Hyuga are the children of Hamura not the Senju who can't be Host for Kurama so they ask their cousin the Uzumaki to be the Host because of the powers they got from Hamura side of the Family.
 

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Naruto Isn't Senju, He's a Cousin of them.
Hagoromo Is Ninshuu, He has Senju and Uchiha. He gave both Naruto and Sasuke Senju, thereby unlocking Sasuke's birth potential and applying a Powerup for Naruto to combines Hagoromo and Hamuras! Naruto has the powers of the Original Brothers. But he lacks hyuga and uchiha to make him almighty. Although his power should be similar to Kaguya's. Maybe that's why he could stop her from absorbing their chakra and Sasuke couldn't. Sasuke is basically the Sage now he usess Ninshuu, Naruto has some of the powers of both, making him a Shinju user.
 

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Uzumaki are from the senju bloodline.
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though i do agree that hamura is the hyuga ancestor...
 

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Uzumaki are from the senju bloodline.
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though i do agree that hamura is the hyuga ancestor...
Yes, i do agree that "Nagato" is lineage of the Senju clan, but it does not directly state that uzumaki are lineage of the uzumaki clan. He may be an uzumaki because he was descended from a parent of senju and uzumaki
 

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Yes, i do agree that "Nagato" is lineage of the Senju clan, but it does not directly state that uzumaki are lineage of the uzumaki clan. He may be an uzumaki because he was descended from a parent of senju and uzumaki

Asura and Indra reincarnate themselves in descendants according to Black Zetsu.
 
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