One thing's for sure: She should be at least 4x as powerful as she was in the War Arc with Naruto/Kurama's chakra which could blast away the Jubi's hand that could flick away Biju Bombs. That alone makes her an extremely powerful Kunoichi.
There's also the fact that an Air Palm of that scale would easily knock Sakura out given how weak she is at tanking blunt force.
An actual fight between them would very similar to Neji vs Lee. Sakura may have the raw power to kill Hinata with a well placed blow, but Hinata's fluid fighting style is very effective against raw power type of opponents.
Agree, in the Last, Hinata showed good skill at redirecting enemy momentum, which she even pulled off without using her Byakugan. Not only that, but it's even out right stated that straight forward attacks are very easy to counter, and with Hinata's superior taijutsu and reflexes, such a thing would be more than easy for her to pull off. And we know Sakura's taijutsu is linear as hell.
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Sakura fans post the picture of her taking out the Jubi spawn as an answer to her beating Hinata with ease. There's 2 things wrong with that logic.
1. Sakura caused that much destruction with momentum. People seem to forget she jumped first before she punched the ground. If you honestly believe she could cause that much destruction without jumping first, I question what you learned in school.
2. If Sakura was attempting to jump and destroy the area, what's stopping Hinata from simply using an Air Palm and blasting her to bits? Because unless you can convince me (or anyone for that matter) that Sakura is more durable than the Jubi's Biju Bomb flicking hand, that's something that could happen.
That feat really is simple to counter for any sane ninja. Not only can Hinata intercept the attack and stop her momentum with Air Palm, but she can also jump high enough to simple avoid the attack, as the entire alliance was shown being able to jump very high previously. It's like I've said before, Sakura's skills are nothing more than mundane everyday ninja abilities. Nothing special is needed to avoid her ground pound punch.
This sounds like I favor Hinata over Sakura right? I do, but that doesn't mean that I can't see Sakura winning at all either in the right circumstances. With her sleeping gas and Katsuya, I see the potential win in her favor. I'm simply saying that even if Sakura is stronger than Hinata, you're kidding yourself if you think you think she wins with no effort at all.
only problem is Katsuyu tbh, and Sakura would win in such a case, but sleeping gas is easily seen by Hinata and could be blow away with Air Palm if used, that's even assuming Sakura would be able to free her hands in the heat of battle long enough to even pull them out.
is the strongest female ninja because she talked to Hamura solod a couple minions and her chakra color changed and she still couldn't defeat Toneri. Would you like to give the flat Earth theory a try too or?
No, it's very relevant. What she got from Naruto isn't a small amount of chakra so I have no idea why you think this logic makes sense. What's also funny is this logic in the bold. Sasuke has Hagoromo's chakra yet his Legged Susanoo is smaller than it was when he had that cloak from Naruto and Kurama, yet Hagoromo's chakra is the strongest type of chakra bar Kaguya's and the Juubi's.
What's even funnier is that Hinata's techniques are blatantly shown not to be on the level they were when she had the version 1 cloak.
No its irrelevant because this thread was meant as troll thread and not to be taken seriously. On the other side I know that we need feats to determine how strong she is but she did not show anything to determine.
But if use Kurama chakra buff as example and apply it here than Hamura chakra should have even greater effects.
No its irrelevant because this thread was meant as troll thread and not to be taken seriously. On the other side I know that we need feats to determine how strong she is but she did not show anything to determine.
But if use Kurama chakra buff as example and apply it here than Hamura chakra should have even greater effects.
No, it's very relevant. What she got from Naruto isn't a small amount of chakra so I have no idea why you think this logic makes sense. What's also funny is this logic in the bold. Sasuke has Hagoromo's chakra yet his Legged Susanoo is smaller than it was when he had that cloak from Naruto and Kurama, yet Hagoromo's chakra is the strongest type of chakra bar Kaguya's and the Juubi's.
What's even funnier is that Hinata's techniques are blatantly shown not to be on the level they were when she had the version 1 cloak.
You do know Sakura did something similar in the war arc right? Naruto was injured and out of chakra. Couldn't even move Sakura healed him he went straight into KCM. During the last it'll be a feat if she did it in seconds to Naruto that was in the same situation.
I wonder which is worse, tripping or forgetting how to breathe. You decide lol.
I feel like you're nitpicking. Hinata already stated that it could only be broken by those who have the ootutsuki chakra. Currently, only four shinobi posses that chakra, Naruto, Sasuke, Boruto & Hinata.
Hamura gave her his chakra so she could destroy it. She couldn't she even said so. And needed Naruto. How is that nitpicking? That chakra didn't help her at all.
>Still... "It did nothing" How long do you plan on clinging to this nonsense when scenes directly from The Last prove you wrong in every way?
I agree with a lot of what you said, but I think it was the same thing, only difference is that Naruto and Sasuke were already high Kage level and them getting Rikudo Chakra triggered power ups in them. With Hinata, she was around low Jonin at that point, and didn't trigger any power up like a Tenseigan or whatever, unlike Naruto's Rikudo Mode and Sasuke' Rennigan. That's the key difference here. Rikudo Chakra ALONE isn't enough to make Hinata all-powerful, since, at best, it's probably slightly superior to Bijuu Chakra in potency, and no one will claim a Bijuu Cloak Hinata is on par with Rennigan Sasuke and Rikudo Naruto.
No, that makes no sense. Naruto and Sasuke were already near-surpassing Hashirama and Madara in BM and EMS. Naruto and Sasuke getting Rikudo Chakra also triggered Rikudo Mode and Rennigan in them, while with Hinata, nothing was triggered. The notion that Hinata should be on par with them with mere Rikudo Chakra is as asinine as claiming Hinata w/ Kurama Chakra should be on par with Madara.
How exactly does Hinata lose to Kurotsuchi and Temari when she can see all of their attacks coming and counter them effectively with Gentle Fists' Chakra destruction capabilities and her Air Palm?
Hinata stopped the moon from falling to Earth, but that still makes her useless? And why do you continue to act like your opinions have any merit when you continue to assert that Hanabi is above Hinata when the Last very much showed the opposite, with Hanabi falling pray to Toneri's puppets, yet Hinata managing to fight of multiple of them. And that's even avoiding mentioning the fact that the statement you rely on was said 30 years ago before Hinata even became a freaking Genin, before she learned Air Palm, 64 Palms, Twin Lion Fists, got Rikudo Chakra, and was referred to as a Master of the Gentle Fist.
Funny you talk about Hanabi in her prime when it's Hinata who is referred to as a Gentle Fist Master in Part 3, and of course, everything I said to Shruikan above about Hinata and Hanabi applies here as well.
No, Kishimoto already reconfirmed that she got Chakra form Hamura, as if Hinata herself stating she has Hamura's Chakra wasn't enough. Not only that, but Hinata didn't stop Toneri from draining Naruto's Chakra. If you rewatch the scene, you will CLEARLY see that Toneri STOPS absorbing Naruto's chakra before Hinata proceeds to replenish his reserves, so the notion that she merely stopped Toneri from absorbing anymore of Naruto's chakra is impossible.
Please don't even attempt to talk about comparing Hinata and Sakura as ninjas, because Hinata murders Sakura in every way in that regard. Being given power ups doesn't diminish one's value as a ninja anyways.
Hinata did put it to use, didn't she? Or who was it that destroyed the Tenseigan again?
No one, at least not I, am arguing that Hinata's boost in power is on par with that of Naruto's and Sasuke's, that is ludicrous, but the increase is still there, at least surpassing what she did in her Kyuubi cloak form, meaning some 4 fold increase.
If you want to talk about no proof, then just use common sense. We don’t need proof for Fugaku’s Sharingan being able to use precognition, because we know all Sharingans can do this. We don’t need proof that Hinata’s Byakugan has a blind spot because we know all Byakugan have it. We don’t need proof that Dai can use all the other Gates below the 8th, because we know anyone who can use the 8th can use all the others. We don’t need proof that Sasuke’s Rennigan can use the Six Paths techniques, because we know all Rennigan can do this. And of course, we don't need proof Sakura can regrow limbs with Yin Seal, because we know Yin Seal itself can achieve this.
Likewise, we don’t need proof to argue that Hinata’s Rikudo Chakra increased her stats, because we know for a fact that Rikudo Chakra itself will increase the stats of whoever uses it, as we’ve seen with Naruto, Sasuke, and Kakashi. Common sense. Even if one wants to ignore this, she is still able to combine it with her attacks, meaning more power, and more Chakra also means more speed, and Hinata displayed Chakra reserves on par with Naruto’s after receiving Rikudo Chakra, and she also showed the ability to levitate.
1. The movie adapted the anime's coloring. 2. This back and forth about the Chakra color is irrelevant when Kishimoto already clarified that she did indeed get Chakra from Hamura.
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This is not a testament to her skills. It was outright stated that the alliance was running on fumes at that point, meaning everyone was at their limit, including Hinata , hence why they needed to be protected by Hiruzen. So her faltering when so low on Chakra is about as much of a testament to her skill as Naruto tripping in his fight with Sasuke; no relevance whatsoever. Low Chakra means the body gives out. Even in the ending of the Deidara VS Sasuke fight, we clearly see both low on Chakra and in turn, both were unable to even stand. Likewise for Neji after he used his Byakugan for so long. What exactly is the difference between Naruto, Neji, Sasuke, Deidara, and Hinata’s cases? There is none.
Not to mention Hinata didn't even have her Byakugan activated, so I have no idea where your accusation is coming from.
Best medic fails to heal her daughter's eyes. :lol
You could have argued that before Kishimoto himself said she got it during a Q&A. Not to mention Hinata herself says he has the Chakra anyways, and the change is Chakra color already backs that up even more.
You do know Sakura did something similar in the war arc right? Naruto was injured and out of chakra. Couldn't even move Sakura healed him he went straight into KCM. During the last it'll be a feat if she did it in seconds to Naruto that was in the same situation.
Not similiar at all. Sakura took longer, again, and Kurama was also there, again. Not to mention Naruto entered KCM LONG after Sakura stopped healing him, so the credit goes to Kurama, again. But what do I expect from someone when, despite the facts being laid right in front of him, continues to deny Hinata gaining power ups from getting Rikudo Chakra.
Hamura gave her his chakra so she could destroy it. She couldn't she even said so. And needed Naruto. How is that nitpicking? That chakra didn't help her at all.
You cry about people accusing you of nitpicking yet here you are, once again not being capable of grasping the simple notion that the GENTLE fist doesn't have the fire power needed to destroy something as powerful as the Tenseigan, yet you continue to claim the Rikudo Chakra Hinata gained did nothing to her when we saw multiple changes to her abilities.
:lol I'm not gonna get into a debate with you when other's in a previous thread proved you wrong on this same post.
If you're referring to Blaze *****ing about dust clouds, then yeah, I agree, I got dragged in that thread
And lmao at implying you could even debate if you wanted to. What are you going to do? Ignore the scenes of Hinata using the Rikudo Chakra? Damn, that'll show me.
Just a reminder that Kishimoto already confirmed loud and clear at Comic Con 2015 that Hinata's Rikudo Chakra did in fact greatly amplify her abilities, as if the movie wasn't enough evidence for people with her various feats. A fodder medic like Sakura isn't beating a Jyuken Master with Rikudo Chakra.
Every category you can't think of, Sakura poisons GG and you can call her a fodder medic but that's hate in addition to fapping. That fodder medic is the reason Naruto isnt a widow and his children aren't motherless.
Just a reminder that Kishimoto already confirmed loud and clear at Comic Con 2015 that Hinata's Rikudo Chakra did in fact greatly amplify her abilities, as if the movie wasn't enough evidence for people with her various feats. A fodder medic like Sakura isn't beating a Jyuken Master with Rikudo Chakra.
Watch the movie, Hinata herself says she has and shows the Chakra multiple times.
As for Kishimoto, he answered the question to a fan during Comic Con 2015 signing, was asked what the Chakra did and he said that it wasn't planned out beyond being able to destroy the Teseigan but that it definitely would have amplified her abilities.
How long do you plan on clinging to this nonsense when scenes directly from The Last prove you wrong in every way?
