:wut: That chakra did jack ish for her. He gave her that chakra to destroy the Tenseigan altar and she couldn't even do it. She's far from being the strongest female in Naruto.
So basically because she was given chakra in the last (LOL) you think that it’s the same as the sage dividing his power between Sasuke and Naruto as was the case with Indra and Asura. This is a saeasonal argument and quite fickle which only lends to they themselves not being 100% sure of it.
Hamura gave Hinata chakra which she used to refill Naruto’s reserves and aid him in an attack. We didn’t see any change in her, no new powers and abilities and she basically acted as a battery with her current jutsu boosted like in the war arc when she had kurama’s chakra cloak. Hinata granted the power of Hamura (2x Naruto’s power) or Hamura performing a chakra transfer on her and lending her chakra to use? Logically the later right? It’s not different it seems than when Naruto gave her chakra, Tsunade gave the Tsuchikage chakra and Sakura gave Obito chakra. It’s a chakra transfer. No new powers, no change in anything and she’s giving the chakra to others. Looks like a chakra transfer to me. Why also isn’t she involved the the current crisis with the kage and team 7? She is supposedly stronger than the kage, Sakura and maybe Sasuke and Naruto. She helped defeat Toneri who is related to Kaguya and the Ootsutsuki. Why then is Hinata not at that meeting where a threat greater than Kaguya is being discussed? With Hinata, Sasuke and Naruto you have power equal to Hagoromo AND Hamura which would have made Kaguya herself easier to handle and which right now would essentially guarantee them defeating the new threat. Why isn’t she with them?
Lastly, this is going to sound mean but, Hinata of all the characters in Naruto having power equal or greater than Naruto and Sasuke (indra and asura)?! Seriously? No one else finds this laughable? I would laugh if Kakashi, Sakura, Gaara or even Pain gets such a boost and you expect me to believe that Hinata Hyuga has this power rivaling Naruto and Sasuke? Not Pain, not Obito but Hinata. Hinata is stronger than the sannin, hokage, kage, akatsuki, gai, sakura, kakashi, and maybe even Naruto and Sasuke? Really? Once again filler aside it seems like a chakra transfer and not her actually being bestowed with Hamura’s power like Naruto, Sasuke, Indra and Asura were with Hagoromo’s.
And people start *****ing and moaning when I say that Sakura surpassed Tsunade with manga evidence.....
I agree with a lot of what you said, but I think it was the same thing, only difference is that Naruto and Sasuke were already high Kage level and them getting Rikudo Chakra triggered power ups in them. With Hinata, she was around low Jonin at that point, and didn't trigger any power up like a Tenseigan or whatever, unlike Naruto's Rikudo Mode and Sasuke' Rennigan. That's the key difference here. Rikudo Chakra ALONE isn't enough to make Hinata all-powerful, since, at best, it's probably slightly superior to Bijuu Chakra in potency, and no one will claim a Bijuu Cloak Hinata is on par with Rennigan Sasuke and Rikudo Naruto.
IDK about that. I mean it is just ridiculous if you think about it, if she really got Hamura's Powers then she should on par with the likes of Naruto and Sasuke, but is she? Hell No.
I mean this is Hamura we are talking about. the one who created the Tenseigan which was capable of moving the whole ****ing moon from it's orbit. I really doubt that he gave her a shit from his powers.
No, that makes no sense. Naruto and Sasuke were already near-surpassing Hashirama and Madara in BM and EMS. Naruto and Sasuke getting Rikudo Chakra also triggered Rikudo Mode and Rennigan in them, while with Hinata, nothing was triggered. The notion that Hinata should be on par with them with mere Rikudo Chakra is as asinine as claiming Hinata w/ Kurama Chakra should be on par with Madara.
How exactly does Hinata lose to Kurotsuchi and Temari when she can see all of their attacks coming and counter them effectively with Gentle Fists' Chakra destruction capabilities and her Air Palm?
Hinata stopped the moon from falling to Earth, but that still makes her useless? And why do you continue to act like your opinions have any merit when you continue to assert that Hanabi is above Hinata when the Last very much showed the opposite, with Hanabi falling pray to Toneri's puppets, yet Hinata managing to fight of multiple of them. And that's even avoiding mentioning the fact that the statement you rely on was said 30 years ago before Hinata even became a freaking Genin, before she learned Air Palm, 64 Palms, Twin Lion Fists, got Rikudo Chakra, and was referred to as a Master of the Gentle Fist.
Do not forget about Hanabi who in the Bort series should be in her prime. She was already close to Hinata when she was much younger and now as the probable head of the Hyuga clan she should easily be ahead of Hinata who has been a housewife for the last decade. Plus speaking of special powers her bygugan eyes literally are the same ones then Toneri activated the tensigan with so she could potentially be ridiculously powerful if only she had panel time.
Funny you talk about Hanabi in her prime when it's Hinata who is referred to as a Gentle Fist Master in Part 3, and of course, everything I said to Shruikan above about Hinata and Hanabi applies here as well.
I still don't believe Hamura gave her anything. It seemed more like she just had an immunity to the Chakra draining technique due to being descendent of Hamura. She allowed Naruto avoid getting his Chakra drained by mixing in Her Chakra and didn't replenish anything.
No, Kishimoto already reconfirmed that she got Chakra form Hamura, as if Hinata herself stating she has Hamura's Chakra wasn't enough. Not only that, but Hinata didn't stop Toneri from draining Naruto's Chakra. If you rewatch the scene, you will CLEARLY see that Toneri STOPS absorbing Naruto's chakra before Hinata proceeds to replenish his reserves, so the notion that she merely stopped Toneri from absorbing anymore of Naruto's chakra is impossible.
Difference is Hinata needed a magical handout to support Naruto and in turn contribute to the plot. While Sakura only needed her natural abilities. That's what makes Sakura superior to Hinata as a overall ninja... Sidenote: Hinata had to transfer it by default being that she couldn't put it to use on her own.
Where's the scan or proof of Hinata receiving a similar boost to her abilities in contrast to Naruto and sasuke receiving Hagoromo's chakra.
Please don't even attempt to talk about comparing Hinata and Sakura as ninjas, because Hinata murders Sakura in every way in that regard. Being given power ups doesn't diminish one's value as a ninja anyways.
Hinata did put it to use, didn't she? Or who was it that destroyed the Tenseigan again?
No one, at least not I, am arguing that Hinata's boost in power is on par with that of Naruto's and Sasuke's, that is ludicrous, but the increase is still there, at least surpassing what she did in her Kyuubi cloak form, meaning some 4 fold increase.
If you want to talk about no proof, then just use common sense. We don’t need proof for Fugaku’s Sharingan being able to use precognition, because we know all Sharingans can do this. We don’t need proof that Hinata’s Byakugan has a blind spot because we know all Byakugan have it. We don’t need proof that Dai can use all the other Gates below the 8th, because we know anyone who can use the 8th can use all the others. We don’t need proof that Sasuke’s Rennigan can use the Six Paths techniques, because we know all Rennigan can do this. And of course, we don't need proof Sakura can regrow limbs with Yin Seal, because we know Yin Seal itself can achieve this.
Likewise, we don’t need proof to argue that Hinata’s Rikudo Chakra increased her stats, because we know for a fact that Rikudo Chakra itself will increase the stats of whoever uses it, as we’ve seen with Naruto, Sasuke, and Kakashi. Common sense. Even if one wants to ignore this, she is still able to combine it with her attacks, meaning more power, and more Chakra also means more speed, and Hinata displayed Chakra reserves on par with Naruto’s after receiving Rikudo Chakra, and she also showed the ability to levitate.
1. The movie adapted the anime's coloring. 2. This back and forth about the Chakra color is irrelevant when Kishimoto already clarified that she did indeed get Chakra from Hamura.
This is not a testament to her skills. It was outright stated that the alliance was running on fumes at that point, meaning everyone was at their limit, including Hinata , hence why they needed to be protected by Hiruzen. So her faltering when so low on Chakra is about as much of a testament to her skill as Naruto tripping in his fight with Sasuke; no relevance whatsoever. Low Chakra means the body gives out. Even in the ending of the Deidara VS Sasuke fight, we clearly see both low on Chakra and in turn, both were unable to even stand. Likewise for Neji after he used his Byakugan for so long. What exactly is the difference between Naruto, Neji, Sasuke, Deidara, and Hinata’s cases? There is none.
Not to mention Hinata didn't even have her Byakugan activated, so I have no idea where your accusation is coming from.
You could have argued that before Kishimoto himself said she got it during a Q&A. Not to mention Hinata herself says he has the Chakra anyways, and the change is Chakra color already backs that up even more.
It was when he was at New York Comic Con. Someone asked about what the Chakra did to Hinata, and he danced around the issue pretty much and said that it wasn't really planned what the Chakra did to her beyond destroying the Tenseigan, but that id probably increased her abilities.
One thing's for sure: She should be at least 4x as powerful as she was in the War Arc with Naruto/Kurama's chakra which could blast away the Jubi's hand that could flick away Biju Bombs. That alone makes her an extremely powerful Kunoichi.
For some reason she's in this imaginary rivalry with Sakura which I'm positive stems from the rivalry between Naruto and Sasuke. I'd like to clear up a few things regarding Hinata vs Sakura because it seems people let bias do the talking for them these days.
An actual fight between them would very similar to Neji vs Lee. Sakura may have the raw power to kill Hinata with a well placed blow, but Hinata's fluid fighting style is very effective against raw power type of opponents.
Sakura fans post the picture of her taking out the Jubi spawn as an answer to her beating Hinata with ease. There's 2 things wrong with that logic.
1. Sakura caused that much destruction with momentum. People seem to forget she jumped first before she punched the ground. If you honestly believe she could cause that much destruction without jumping first, I question what you learned in school.
2. If Sakura was attempting to jump and destroy the area, what's stopping Hinata from simply using an Air Palm and blasting her to bits? Because unless you can convince me (or anyone for that matter) that Sakura is more durable than the Jubi's Biju Bomb flicking hand, that's something that could happen.
This sounds like I favor Hinata over Sakura right? I do, but that doesn't mean that I can't see Sakura winning at all either in the right circumstances. With her sleeping gas and Katsuya, I see the potential win in her favor. I'm simply saying that even if Sakura is stronger than Hinata, you're kidding yourself if you think you think she wins with no effort at all.
What poor logic. You don't know how much chakra she got from Hamura and what the nature behind the transfer is. Hagoromo, Hamura, Ashura and Indra are powerful because the details we know about them specifically paint them to be very powerful. Hinata has done nothing in this franchise to make her superior to every female Ninja.
Bringing up Naruto and Sasuke is also a dumb thing to do because they literally each got HALF of Hagoromo's power. HALF. 50%. Not a soul on this forum can tell me that Hinata got the same amount.
What poor logic. You don't know how much chakra she got from Hamura and what the nature behind the transfer is. Hagoromo, Hamura, Ashura and Indra are powerful because the details we know about them specifically paint them to be very powerful. Hinata has done nothing in this franchise to make her superior to every female Ninja.
Bringing up Naruto and Sasuke is also a dumb thing to do because they literally each got HALF of Hagoromo's power. HALF. 50%. Not a soul on this forum can tell me that Hinata got the same amount.
I bring Naruto and Sasuke as example because they recieved chakra from ghost of Hagoromo just like Hinata did thanks to ghost of Hamura.Thats only connection I had in mind.
How much chakra she got is irrelevant. We have example of what small part of Kurama chakra did to Hinata.Hamura chakra is tiers above Kurama so even small amount of that chakra is enough to buff her jutsus tiers above feat Hinata had with Kurama chakra .
I bring Naruto and Sasuke as example because they recieved chakra from ghost of Hagoromo just like Hinata did thanks to ghost of Hamura.Thats only connection I had in mind.
How much chakra she got is irrelevant. We have example of what small part of Kurama chakra did to Hinata.Hamura chakra is tiers above Kurama so even small amount of that chakra is enough to buff her jutsus tiers above feat Hinata had with Kurama chakra .
No, it's very relevant. What she got from Naruto isn't a small amount of chakra so I have no idea why you think this logic makes sense. What's also funny is this logic in the bold. Sasuke has Hagoromo's chakra yet his Legged Susanoo is smaller than it was when he had that cloak from Naruto and Kurama, yet Hagoromo's chakra is the strongest type of chakra bar Kaguya's and the Juubi's.
What's even funnier is that Hinata's techniques are blatantly shown not to be on the level they were when she had the version 1 cloak.