[VS] Haku and Zabuza(non-edo) vs Kisame

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Yea I know. Hype alone says they win, but They have enough to make this more than a Mid or easy win thanks to the databook and manga. I don't like to argue for easy main streams, takes zero skills. So I like to shed light just for the underdogs respect factor.

I can see Kisame winning if he can set up water dome . But can he do this in this fight is beyond my knowledge reach.
 

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Now that you stated his first move, where would samahada be? ? The moment the sword isn't with in a hand it gets sealed. Not to mention Haku mirror tele to him, than will attempt to freeze his head or throuw senbons at his head (he can do either or both). meanwile the needle sword will go flying at him at an alarming speed given its shape, size and proporties. (Nigh instantly piercing multiple ninjas before they even knew it to create multiple human sewing balls.

I don't understand how Samehada can instantly be sealed, just because it's not touching Kisame. Mangetsu would have to take it first. Either way, Kisame should know his opponents may try to take away Samehada, given who they are. So he simply has Samehada around Kisame while he performs the jutsu. IF Haku is capable of freezing limbs (which isn't proven, and far-fetched given his lack of progression), then Kisame simply retreats underground, removes the ice, then pops up out of nowhere and quickly executes the jutsu. Senbons aren't stopping Kisame, given his tough skin and durability. Nothing supports the needle sword being so insanely fast that Kisame can't avoid it, like he did with Bee's projectiles.
 

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Lmao, they can all have Zabuzas speed. Nothing special. Yes, I am aware of Haku. He can't stop Kisame from doing anything he wants to do. You have them instantly blitzing Kisame, and then have the nerve to talk about fantasy. Lmao, Jesus Christ. Kisame instantly claps his hands and spews out an entire lake worth of water. None of these guys are Mifune, or anywhere close to that speed caliber to prevent the use of ninjutsu. The only one capable is Haku, and he lacks a way to physically stop Kisame. Soon as the lake comes out, Kisame submerges under the surface, and easily deploys everything I already stated. You're already misconstruing what I'm stating.

Move has already been made, and already set. I'm still waiting... Lol.

Lol isnt location Naruto bridge so Kisame dont need lake when he already have ocean.

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I don't understand how Samehada can instantly be sealed, just because it's not touching Kisame. Mangetsu would have to take it first. Either way, Kisame should know his opponents may try to take away Samehada, given who they are. So he simply has Samehada around Kisame while he performs the jutsu. IF Haku is capable of freezing limbs (which isn't proven, and far-fetched given his lack of progression), then Kisame simply retreats underground, removes the ice, then pops up out of nowhere and quickly executes the jutsu. Senbons aren't stopping Kisame, given his tough skin and durability. Nothing supports the needle sword being so insanely fast that Kisame can't avoid it, like he did with Bee's projectiles.

Change of strategy I see.. hmmm

Mengetsu scroll has the ability to seal any of the 7 swords per cannon unless they are being in use (Samahada was being used by bee, and Twin sword by Chojuro). But the wrap itself around kisame strategy is legit! (Kudos) And you are right about them having knowledge on each other, but it works both ways. He can freeze the particles in air and create thick , of ice harder than Solid rock as per databook. Kisame still has to preform a doton seal to retreat underground... They have super hearing so no sneak attavk would ever happen. Plus les say he skeaks under ground; They an easily follow since the tech makes the solid around him liquid/fluid. So The needle sword can floow him the moment he submerges (not even fully) and then hook him and make sure he doesn't escape for more assaults.

Kisame has been injured by standered weapons his skin isnt that durable. Let alone to piercing objects when its cannon he can be pierced. Haku's senbons can hit the soft tissue and pressure points similar to what he did to zabuza. Senbons can aim for his eyes etc. Normally it wouldn't be possible 1 v 1 but with so much going on it's easier to employ. If he worries about one thing 5 others will succeed.

And yes, with the mist taking with vission and the attack being soundless he will never see the needle sword coming! EVER! With bee he seen it last second, this is an entire different scenerio with multiple elite joinins attack at once with perfect synergy!
 

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Smh... True, so Kisame literally just jumps into the ocean. Not a very fair fight tbh.

I'll be back on later though.

Let's ignore that location since we made a separate match from the thread OG post anyway.
 

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Change of strategy I see.. hmmm

Mengetsu scroll has the ability to seal any of the 7 swords per cannon unless they are being in use (Samahada was being used by bee, and Twin sword by Chojuro). But the wrap itself around kisame strategy is legit! (Kudos) And you are right about them having knowledge on each other, but it works both ways. He can freeze the particles in air and create thick , of ice harder than Solid rock as per databook. Kisame still has to preform a doton seal to retreat underground... They have super hearing so no sneak attavk would ever happen. Plus les say he skeaks under ground; They an easily follow since the tech makes the solid around him liquid/fluid. So The needle sword can floow him the moment he submerges (not even fully) and then hook him and make sure he doesn't escape for more assaults.

Kisame has been injured by standered weapons his skin isnt that durable. Let alone to piercing objects when its cannon he can be pierced. Haku's senbons can hit the soft tissue and pressure points similar to what he did to zabuza. Senbons can aim for his eyes etc. Normally it wouldn't be possible 1 v 1 but with so much going on it's easier to employ. If he worries about one thing 5 others will succeed.

And yes, with the mist taking with vission and the attack being soundless he will never see the needle sword coming! EVER! With bee he seen it last second, this is an entire different scenerio with multiple elite joinins attack at once with perfect synergy!

I understand that, but that doesn't mean that the moment Samehada isn't in contact with Kisame that it can be instantly sealed away. I'm pretty sure Manguetsu would need to come in contact with it, or near it at the very least.

Alright, well Samehada either simply absorbs the Ice or Kisame retreats underground if he needs to. Kisame claps his hands, and as he's about to regurgitate a lake worth of water, Samehada simultaneously absorbs any and all Ice. If the latter option is necessary (unlikely), then he just retreats underground. If Kisame feels like they're onto his underground movements granted Samehadas sensing, then he creates a clone(s) distraction. Allowing Samehada to resurface from the ground first provides a shield for Kisame, which allows him to execute Bakusui Shōha. Alternatively, if he's surrounded, then Mizu Bunshins can surface around him with Samehada providing a 360 degree defense to execute the jutsu. He literally only needs to barely stick his head out of the ground to accomplish Bakusui Shōha. This team has no chance at stopping him, he's way too versatile.

Kunais could barely pierce deep enough into Kisame just to draw a little blood [ ], whereas a Kunai pierced right through Obitos hand and deep enough into rock to hold up his entire body weight. Even Bee's sword barely pierced him, despite Bee's incredible throwing strength. And it's not just his skin, it's also his bodies durability and muscle. Haku states that it's easier to hit acupuncture points where there is . Unfortunately for Haku, Kisame is covered in thick muscle. Guy is absolutely brolic.

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You can even see that his neck is just too thick. Senbons aren't doing anything.

Unless it's a head shot, the needle sword isn't accomplishing anything. Kisame can withstand being hit by it, use Bakusui Shōha, then simply heal himself. Once the lake is inevitably up, it's all over.
 
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He instantly gets disarm as soon as the battle starts with their speed and skill as seen when Base Lee was easily able to unarm him. The moment the sword leaves his hand, Mangetsu seals it in his scroll or simple makes it change owners since he for a fact is deemed worthy. Haku freezes any and all water the moment it attempts to leave his mouth. Zero counters for the blast sword since it isnt chakra and blows humans to peieces. The needle sword instantly peirces his skull with the mist blocking vision to the point the sharinagn is useless (and the sword cannot be sensed by chakra sensors since it isnt chakra).

And thats me getting started.... Your move.

What do you mean change owners?
 
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